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Title: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: EKnight on May 17, 2012, 01:13:12 pm From the Sun Sentinel:
Former Miami Dolphins safety Yeremiah Bell, the longest tenured Dolphin before being released this offseason, apparently won't be out of work for long. Bell, who led the Dolphins in tackles for four straight years, has worked out for the New York Jets, Philadelphia Eagles, Kansas City Chiefs and Tennessee Titans, and will sign with one of those teams. On Thursday morning Bell's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, told WQAM that he's on his way to finalize a contract with the a club, which he wouldn't disclose, and vowed that Bell will be signed "within 24 hours." "I'm on my way to a mystery team, and I don't want to give away the negotiations. ... It is good for Yeremiah," Rosenhaus said. "They're all great situations because they need help at the safety position. He's certainly looking to continue as a starter, go to a good football team. Each of those scenarios is very promising for him." -EK http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-agent-former-miami-dolphins-ss-yeremiah-bell-expected-to-sign-with-mystery-team-in-next-24-hours-20120517,0,4516560.story Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: Brian Fein on May 17, 2012, 01:52:18 pm If he goes to the Jets, I'm going to cry.
Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on May 17, 2012, 05:25:47 pm ^^^
Wouldn't surprise me if he did and that would suck!!!!! Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: MikeO on May 17, 2012, 05:44:39 pm hope he does go to the Jets. He is old, slow, and washed up.
Only reason he led us in tackles is because teams targeted him as much as possible last year and threw to his area knowing he couldn't cover a baby with a blanket let alone an NFL receiver/TE/RB. And of course when you target a guy he is in the area and will be in on the tackle. That's why its a mis-leading stat when talking about safety's sometimes. Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: bsfins on May 18, 2012, 12:32:43 pm ^^ I think you might have posted that in the wrong thread FYO..
On twitter, @AlbertBreer: RT @ProFootballTalk Yeremiah Bell signs with the Jets, per league source. @JasonLaCanfora: Yeremiah Bell to Jets 1 year deal $1.4mil. $200,000 sign bonus. $100,000 workout bonus. $1,100,000 base full guar. $1.3mil full guarantee Just as MikeO wanted,and he has received.... Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: Brian Fein on May 18, 2012, 01:31:31 pm :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: Cathal on May 18, 2012, 03:21:29 pm Doh. One of my favorite guys is on the Jets... again... (talking about JT)
Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: Landshark on May 18, 2012, 04:20:58 pm On every play, we send the tight end across the middle and throw right at Bells ass
Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: EKnight on May 18, 2012, 04:32:28 pm He may not even be on the field enough to do that. Isn't he backing up LaRon Landry? Say what you will about him, he led Miami in tackles not just last year, but the last FOUR years. Not sure if that says something about him being good, or the defense being bad. -EK
Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: CF DolFan on May 18, 2012, 04:46:34 pm I have a somewhat funny Bell story.
It's been a few years but we were in the parking lot after the game just hanging out and waiting for traffic to clear and so on. I hear from behind me "Big Papa!!!! ". I turned around and saw this skinny kid with his parents. Maybe it was 2006 or 2007 ... I can't remember. Anyway, he saw Papa Pump and was stopping to talk to him. Pump introduced him as Yeremiah Bell. Turns out his parents couldn't remember where they had parked and they were wandering the parking lot trying to find their car. He was riding home with them so he was lost too. Anyway, maybe it was the beer but seeing a Dolphin player lost in the parking lot was kind of funny to me. Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: Brian Fein on May 18, 2012, 05:03:06 pm I don't care if he's a good player or not (which he is), but he was one of my favorite players. I'm sad they cut him, and even sadder he signed with the worst team in all of sports.
F the Jets. Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on May 18, 2012, 06:19:48 pm I kinda figured he would end up there....he was a pretty good player on our team....I will hate seeing him in NY.....Fuck the Jets!!!!
Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: MikeO on May 18, 2012, 06:24:36 pm Just as MikeO wanted,and he has received.... Couldn't be happier. Let him make their secondary worse! If he even see's the field and plays. Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: Landshark on May 18, 2012, 06:46:30 pm He may not even be on the field enough to do that. Isn't he backing up LaRon Landry? Say what you will about him, he led Miami in tackles not just last year, but the last FOUR years. Not sure if that says something about him being good, or the defense being bad. -EK If a defensive back is your leading tackler, that's a problem. Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: MikeO on May 18, 2012, 07:03:53 pm If a defensive back is your leading tackler, that's a problem. Fins were #3 vs the Run last year and have been a good to great run defense for a few years now. Of course teams are gonna pass more on Miami. Because they can't run on them!!! When teams pass more on you, of course a secondary person (most likely a roaming safety) will get a lot of tackles! Hence leading the team in tackles. People put way too much into that "leading tackler" stat. That's like saying Revis doesn't get enough INT's. Well duh, few teams throw at him so his chances for INT's are far less than a bad player! Bell was picked on (because he can't cover, hence more tackles coming his way) and teams threw the ball more against Miami because they couldn't run on Miami, because the Fins front 7 was very vey good! #3 rush defense in the entire league! That's why a safety will lead the team in tackles. More opportunities than other guys. You ain't gotta be Scooby Doo to solve this mystery folks! ;D Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: EKnight on May 18, 2012, 07:16:10 pm Great for last year. We all know you love the mediocre D. The previous 3 years when he led the team in tackles the run D was 10th, 18th, and 7th. That's not overwhelming support for your argument. During those same three years the pass defense was in the top ten (8th I believe?) one year, so maybe- just maybe, Bell was a pretty good player. -EK
Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: tubba marxxx on May 18, 2012, 09:23:41 pm Great for last year. We all know you live the mediocre D. The previous 3 years when he led the team in tackles the run D was 10th, 18th, and 7th. That's not overwhelming support for your argument. During those same three years the pass defense was in the top ten (8th I believe?) one year, so maybe- just maybe, Bell was a pretty good player. -EK "Was" being the key word in there Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: EKnight on May 18, 2012, 09:49:56 pm I'm ok with that argument, but it's just flat wrong to imply, as Mike did, that the only reason he led the team in tackles for four straight years is because the run defense was so good, Bell couldn't cover anybody, etc. We all know how it is with Mike: of you're not one of "his guys" (ie, you're Henne, Marshall, or now apparently Bell), there is not middle ground. You can make the Pro Bowl, lead the team in tackles for years and it doesn't matter. The guy makes up his mind that he dislikes a player and that player sucks in his view no matter what the team or the player actually does on the field. This is just a new verse of the same song. -EK
Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: Spider-Dan on May 18, 2012, 11:43:34 pm The other thing to consider is that the SS has a great deal to do with run support. Bell isn't getting all of his tackles on receivers in the flat.
Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: MikeO on May 19, 2012, 07:07:23 am The other thing to consider is that the SS has a great deal to do with run support. Bell isn't getting all of his tackles on receivers in the flat. Correct. And he is a "BOX SAFETY" at this point in his career who can't cover a lick. In a league where you got three QB's throwing for over 5,000 yards and a league where its all pass, pass, pass a "BOX SAFETY" who is a one-trick pony in playing the run is essentially useless to most teams! Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: MikeO on May 19, 2012, 07:25:33 am NY media not thrilled with this signing. From the NY Post talking about the Jets signing Bell and Laundry this offseason and letting Jim Leonhard go without giving him a chance to recover from injury. Because the Jets don't have a true free safety now and they expect Bell to share time there and compete at that position.
“Neither guy is a true free safety,” a league source said. “At end of the day, for me, you pay big money to a safety who can cover well and make plays on the football. Bell is a solid tackler and run supporter, but part of his issues in Miami were liabilities in coverage and he doesn’t produce much ball disruption.” Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: Landshark on May 19, 2012, 07:29:33 am NY media not thrilled with this signing. From the NY Post talking about the Jets signing Bell and Laundry this offseason and letting Jim Leonhard go without giving him a chance to recover from injury. Because the Jets don't have a true free safety now and they expect Bell to share time there and compete at that position. “Neither guy is a true free safety,” a league source said. “At end of the day, for me, you pay big money to a safety who can cover well and make plays on the football. Bell is a solid tackler and run supporter, but part of his issues in Miami were liabilities in coverage and he doesn’t produce much ball disruption.” This hits it right on the head. He was a force against the run but a liability in pass coverage. And it's a passing league. Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: MikeO on May 20, 2012, 10:53:47 am This hits it right on the head. He was a force against the run but a liability in pass coverage. And it's a passing league. Report last night that the Jets expect Bell and Landry to both start for them. Ouch! That's a poor pair of starting safety's. Teams will throw on them all day long. Avoid Revis but just pick apart the middle of the field. Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: EKnight on May 20, 2012, 01:28:16 pm Willing to bet he not only starts and has a good year, but also has a better year than any of Miami's safeties. I hated seeing him go. -EK
Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: Brian Fein on May 21, 2012, 01:08:40 am As stated, I was (and am) sad to see him go, but he was often a liability in pass coverage against tight ends. And in a division where New England routinely picks teams apart with their two behemoth tight ends, its not trivial.
However, is Bell still better than whoever the bums are now? Probably. I like Reshad Jones, but he's still untested. I hope he does well. If they're trying to insert Bell as a free safety, they're going to see realize that mistake. He's a strong safety, and that's all. He's needed in the box, not roaming center field. That's where his strengths are, and he's good to lay a lick on a guy. That all said, he was our veteran presence in a relatively young defensive backfield, and I'm not sure that's so easily replaced. Title: Re: Yeremiah Bell to sign with "mystery team" Post by: MikeO on May 21, 2012, 01:44:19 am As stated, I was (and am) sad to see him go, but he was often a liability in pass coverage against tight ends. And in a division where New England routinely picks teams apart with their two behemoth tight ends, its not trivial. However, is Bell still better than whoever the bums are now? Probably. I like Reshad Jones, but he's still untested. I hope he does well. If they're trying to insert Bell as a free safety, they're going to see realize that mistake. He's a strong safety, and that's all. He's needed in the box, not roaming center field. That's where his strengths are, and he's good to lay a lick on a guy. That all said, he was our veteran presence in a relatively young defensive backfield, and I'm not sure that's so easily replaced. Addition by subtraction by letting Bell go. It's a passing league and he can't cover anyone! Period! That vet leadership thing is overrated. Everyone (players and media alike) said Channing Crowder was the heart and soul of the Fins defense. He was the leader and the guy everyone rallied around. Miami sent him to the curb and the Fins had its best defensive year in a long time last year. They didn't miss his play (obviously) nor his leadership! 6th in points against, 3rd against the run. That vet presence/leadership thing is vastly overrated. Jones has been playing out of position because of Bell. Jones is a natural SS and he will be there this year and he will be fine. With Clemons, Johnson, and Marshall mixed in FS won't be an issue. But in reality, in Kevin Coyle's defense the SAFETY spots are interchangeable anyway. Making Bell outdated since he doesn't have the physical tools to play anything like a FREE SAFETY. Bell was worthless to Miami with Coyle's new schemes. He had to go. |