The Dolphins Make Me Cry.com - Forums

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-johnson-arrested-081112,0,143852.story (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-johnson-arrested-081112,0,143852.story)

Sun sentinal...

Did he get the Locker from Brandon Marshall,and Marshall left bad joo-joo on it...I mean come on,I was fine with the outrageous stuff,and understand he's on the downside of his career.I thought he wasn't a trouble maker..I was pulling for him...Come on man...Stupid,Stupid,Stupid...

unreal. out with one headcase in with another. I knew this was coming when he married that wack job reality show lady.

Im not saying we should cut him over this, but if Philbin did I wouldn't be mad!

tweet from Ben Volin of the Palm beach post...
Davie police spokesman said fight between Chad Johnson and his wife started over a receipt for a box of condoms (https://twitter.com/BenVolinPBP/status/234468395758796802)

Ben Volin tweet again
Chad Johnson is still in custody awaiting appearance in front of a judge (https://twitter.com/BenVolinPBP/status/234469668071538689)

Hopefully something written in his contract that we can cut this POS and not have to pay him any money or count against the cap space. 

Really, I was hoping CJ would come in and at least add some nice depth to the WR corps and maybe resurrect his career, but that looks like it's not going to happen.

Plaxico Burress is out there. Cut Chad and bring in Plax?

Not that Plax is any saint by any means but it would be a way to push Chad out the door and replace him at the same time.


Maybe Chad missed this TV commercial while playing FIFA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FATpOxx81PM

Somebody needs to sacrifice a chicken quick! First Garrard goes down with a mysterious knee injury. Now this. Really? Pretty soon someone is going to ask Chad, "How do you get fired in your day off?"

If Philbin has any balls, he gets rid of Ocho Stinko and promotes either Julius Pruitt or Roberto Wallace.

CUT CHAD! ONCE A WIFE BEATER NO LONGER A PLAYER......

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/24795850.jpg)

Little breakdown of the Fins in recent years and it's no wonder why this team has been horrible and the franchise is going through the worst stretch in it's history. This is just in the last 6 years going back to 2006!

Chad Johnson Domestic Violence for head-butting his wife
Tony McDaniel Domestic Violence for attacking his wife in his driveway
Philip Merling Domestic Violence for beating up his pregnant girlfriend
Brandon Marshall Domestic Violence, arrested for refusing to pay cab driver, stabbed by wife, among 50 other things
Ronnie Brown DUI in Georgia driving on the wrong side of the road
Will Allen DUI for being passed out behind the wheel at a red light
Ricky Williams, quits to smoke dope, returns only to fail another drug test
Koa Misi arrested on battery charges
Regan Mauia arrested on battery charges
Matt Roth arrested for public intoxication
Joey Porter arrested for Drunk Driving (arrested just before and just after he was a member of the Fins as well)
Keith Traylor arrested for DUI, got in a fight with Vernon Carey and was kicked off the team
Kelly Campbell arrested on drug charges
Chris Chambers arrested for DUI
Fred Evans arrested for battery and resisting arrest

Like I said, it's no wonder why this franchise has been miserable for a very long time. CHARACTER COUNTS!

when I heard the news last night I was like keep him, cut him who cares. Even before this happened last night I didn't think he was a lock to make this team anyway. After waking up this morning and seeing the aftermath of this arrest and how much national attention it is getting there is no doubt that Chad needs to be cut. For many reasons.

1) Chad has put Joe Philbin in an impossible spot. If Philbin cuts Chad he is hurting his team and no coach wants to hurt their team for something that happened off the field. But, If Philbin keeps Chad it makes Philbin look like a fool as he just said on Hard Knocks we can't have guys representing the organization in a bad light. If Philbin keeps him then Philbin comes off as weak and someone who talks the talks but won't walk the walk. Coming off weak as a rookie head coach is not good. Nobody, players especially, will respect him going forward

2) This WR group is considered "bad" with Chad Johnson. Would it be any worse without him in reality? Seriously. Cut ties with the "drama" and send him on his way.

3) If you keep Chad it's only going to get much much worse. He and his Crazy Wife have a reality show starting on Sep 3rd on VH1 (it's already taped, they are going to air it). With this news I am sure ratings will be through the roof and he along with this teammates and coaches are going to be asked questions on him all year if he is on this team.  It will be a year long distraction.

He's gotta go!

You forgot to put Randy McMichael in there.  He beat his pregnant wife and threw her stuff out of their car when they were in the parking lot of a Waffle House.


Excellent points.  He's way past his prime and just trying to hang on.  Give one of the youngn's a chance.

Forgot about Randy. But technically he wouldn't have made the list anyway beacuse McMichael's arrest was in 2004. My list just went back to 2006.

Chad was released on $2,500 bond. Could be out in time for the Fins 1pm practice. lol...that's if he is still on the team by then.

Should be a very interesting day in Davie!

Gee, who could have predicted this? What a shock. Lol

according to Omar Kelly the owner Stephen Ross will have a voice in whether Chad stays or goes. If I were to guess that would probably mean Chad is gone. Chad Johnson with his one strike might pay for all of Brandon Marshall's sins in recent years. Ross is very image conscious these days (stopping with celeb owners, getting rid of the orange carpet, saying Brandon was gone anyway if Chicago didn't accept the trade) . He has changed since he first entered the NFL.

Per Omar: However, I'm told by a team source the Dolphins organization won't make a decision regarding Johnson until they speak with him, conduct their own investigation, and discuss the issue with team owner Steve Ross.

This bothers me.  Ross needs to step back and let Ireland and Philbin handle the football side of this team.  Apparently he still hasn't learned.

he actually did himself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wlFFTc4a-o

For crap like this I got no problem with Ross being involved. This isn't a "football decision." Ross owns the team and its players actions are a reflection on him and his family!

Just like when Vick signed with Philly Jeffrey Lurie and his wife sat in and made the final call because the players actions/past is a reflection on them as people.

This is not a football decision by any means, if it were its no debate he stays. This is about do you want someone who acts like this to be on your payroll.

So, either Chad assaulted his wife when he found out she was cheating on him(the receipt for the condoms was allegedly hers), or she is lying and hurt herself. Maybe for money, who knows?

If Chad is innocent, he shouldn't be allowed on the team without divorcing his wife. If he is guilty, then he should be gone.

Roberto Wallace replaced Johnson in the starting lineup at practice today.

Philbin said at his press conference this situation with Chad will be addressed "sooner rather than later" and "everyone is held to a high standard around here."

It's tough to predict what they will do, but if I were a betting man I would have to think those 2 quotes tell me they are leaning or have decided already on letting Chad go. Wouldn't shock me if they kept him, but those 2 quotes especially the first one of "sooner rather than later" tells me they really just want this over with and don't care to have the legal process play out or anything.

It's a good thing MIA traded away their Pro Bowl MVP WR for a bag of peanuts, or else they'd have a loudmouthed, lawbreaking troublemaker on the team.

Which they definitely do not want.

Screw Marshall!!!!!  We'll see how he does with the Bears...?????

IMO..with or without Johnson, this teams season rides upon the Defence's shoulders and a STRONG running game.....maybe not true to form of the New pass/happy NFL...but hopefully enough to get us 10 wins and see the playoffs once again!

According to Jay Glazer twitter
The Miami Dolphins have just released Chad Johnson, scouts cleaned out his locker (https://twitter.com/JayGlazer/status/234807481891692544)
Again, for those who missed it, just reported #dolphins have just released Chad Johnson as a result of last nights ... http://tmi.me/vfgp0  (https://twitter.com/JayGlazer/status/234808676693729280)

Well that's all folks to the Chad Johnson experiment...

Per Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald, this was Coach Philbin's decision and Ireland and Ross backed him unconditionally.  Name to watch now- Roberto Wallace

Sounds like a huge mistake to me.  He's far from the best in the league, but he was by far the best receiver on this team.

And so it ends.

Thank God! He lasted 8 weeks total. Signed June 11th. Fired August 12th!

Apparently Coach Philbin disagrees.  Time to give the youngn's with upside a shot.

Good riddance....hadn't even made the team and screwin around like this!!!!     I guess, when you're rich beyond belief, the idea of truly representing yourself towards your career really isn't that important. 

Bing in the young guys and lets role from there!

The season hasn't even started yet and Philbin is sick of his antics.  Good riddance.

Too bad, I was hoping he had turned it around.

I want to go ahead and admit that I did not see this coming (the action, not being cut). I tried to defend him as just a clowner but others repeatedly stressed somethinglike this would happen.

I think cutting him is the rigth decision. Time to move forward with the rest of the season.

Not surprised.  Although I thought he would last until week 2 or 3 before he started acting up.

Maybe being in his hometown, he was drawn in to old haunts

I did notice on Weiketrade the other day that his Dolphins Jersey had Ochocinco on the back, not Johnson, plus they left off the third "C" so it was Ochocino.  The chinese will have to scrap those, or more likely sew on a new name.

I'm just gonna throw this out there as food for thought. According to Philbin, it wasn't the domestic incident that caused the cut. It was an entire slew of things with Chad being Chad. I absolutely get what everyone is saying BUT- my issue is the same one with complaining about Marshall's stuff and his drops: you bring in a player in Marshall who had a career drop issue before he go to Miami and also had a career issue of antics, then you don't get to complain when he drops balls and acts up. Same with Chad- they knew what they were getting with him. It's what they signed up for. How can anyone who hasn't been under a rock for the past six years now be aghast that he would mouth off, become twitter happy or whatever. It's what you signed up for. If you met your gf dancing on a pole, you can't start telling her not to strip afterwards. It was good enough to begin with, and you knew what you were getting. -EK

I disagree. Before they even signed Chad, Philbin had a conversation with him and they told him exactly what they expected of him which I'm sure included the fact that his behavior off the field would be as closely monitored as his play on the field was. Stay on the beaten path and you'll get every chance to contribute, deviate from that path and you'll be shown the door. THAT is what both Chad and the Dolphins signed up for and that's exactly what they both got.

I have a hard time believing Chad- a grown man- agreed not to Tweer or use foul language when the entire rest of the team had no such restrictions. Edit- I don't mean that disrespectfully at all Pappy. I actually don't believe that Chad (or any grown man) would agree to those kinds of conditions. Do you know specifically what limitations he had/agreed to? -EK

Well Chad was better behaved in N.E. last year, I would guess that was the only reason they agreed to give him a shot, that and he probably had to agree to be on his best behavior.

I doubt those were the exact terms.

If you say so. :)

He assaulted his wife. He could be going to jail.

Far as I know Philbin can cut anybody he wants for whatever reason he wants including off the field actions. Chad wasn't subjected to anything that every single guy on the team isn't subjected to in some form.

No offense taken.

You honestly don't think that players with a history of problems aren't told that they'll have to maintain a low profile to stay with the team? I think that's pretty much standard practice for most teams especially with players with a history of problems.

No, I don't know specifically what was said in the meeting, but it was probably the pretty standard stuff like "anything that we deem not reflecting the organization in the best light" and certainly something like being arrested for anything would fall under that category. I think that goes WITHOUT saying and perhaps it even WAS said. You can't honestly believe that Chad didn't know that being arrested would be frowned upon.

You can argue that Chad may not have known about the foul language, but that's why that ended in a conversation with Philbin rather than being cut. It's possible that Philbin considered this the 1st strike. Then Chad turned around and tweeted about it making light of the situation, I'm pretty sure that Chad knew that wouldn't go over too well. Philbin may have considered that strike 2. The assault and arrest were strike 3, you're out. I think it's pretty clear where Chads head was when he stated that he didn't care about his profession to his wife. I'm sure that it was said in the heat of the moment, but I've found that things said in the heat of the moment are sometimes the most honest and forthcoming.

I was not happy to see that he had been cut. I was hoping he would have been a solid player for us this year. Oh well shit happens now we are back to Hartline as our best receiver......wow that sucks!!!!

This is something I don't get and I heard it a lot today all over sports talk radio. Why does everyone assume you get 3 strikes? On my job if I was arrested for something like Chad was I would be out the door ASAP. No 2nd and 3rd strike.No waiting till all the facts come out. In some jobs in the "real world" (aka Non Sports World) they don't wait for the legal process to play out. The fact Chad was involved with something where his wife got a 3 inch cut on her forehead and he was arrested is enough to warrant being fired in the real world in many cases (not all, but many.) The fact "some" (not all) teams have that same standard I have no problem with. I don't get where it became written in stone you automatically get 3 strikes so (wink-wink) it doesn't get serious until you are down to the final one.

I also find it shocking that people are surprised that there are different standards for different players. The old Jimmy Johnson quote was something along the lines of, if the 53rd man on the roster falls asleep during a meeting he gets cut. If Troy or Emmitt fall asleep you ask them if they want a blanket or a pillow. It boils down to who the hell is Chad Johnson? He isn't a superstar he is just another player at this point. He F'd up and he is gone. Chad is an old WR coming off a god awful year joining a new team. He didn't earn the respect or have the currency built up within the organization that someone else might have to get the benefit of the doubt.  

The Dolphins knew what they were getting when they signed him. They wanted a veteran WR. Yes they knew of the twitter antics and endzone dances and outlandish talk. They didn't think they were getting Brandon Marshall 2.0 Domestic Violence/arrest nonsense. That isn't what they signed up for. They could have lived with the crazy quotes, press conferences and Philbin would have lost his voice this year talking to him about it endlessly and toning it down. But he wouldn't have been cut over that. And Chad would have been smart enough to not cross THAT line with the interviews once he knew where the line was with Philbin. He would have toe'd the line but not cross it after last weeks talk which aired on HBO.

He was CUT/FIRED because he got arrested. Period! End of story. If Chad didn't get arrested Saturday he would still be a Dolphin today. The line Philbin said of ..."it was more than just one thing"....total and complete BULLSHIT (pardon my language). That is 100% coach speak/political thing to say. If anyone thinks that if Chad wasn't arrested this weekend he would have still been cut on Sunday night they are nuts. He was cut because he got arrested and only because he got arrested.

I agree with your sentiment; 3 is no sort of magical number, and I would think that in most reasonable businesses, you can explain one mistake as an anomaly, but the second means you're a problem.  That being said:

I don't know what kind of job you have, but I don't think I've ever had a job where my employers would even know if I were arrested on a domestic violence charge (particularly if I made bail without missing a work shift), and I certainly would not have been fired without an opportunity to explain that, for example, I was arrested on a completely fabricated charge and my lawyer will have this thrown out before trial.

When this kind of stuff happens to everyday citizens, it's not a news story like it is for celebrities; I don't know how many of my coworkers have ever been arrested (not convicted... simply arrested) for domestic violence or DUI or assault & battery or failure to pay child support, and I don't imagine I ever will.

Furthermore, as I have previously stated on many, many prior threads, you and I are not elite professional athletes.  My employer could terminate me for no reason at all (CA is an employment-at-will state) and it wouldn't be too difficult to replace me.  So any efforts to compare what would happen to working stiffs (e.g. anyone posting to this forum) is a waste of time.

^^i agree and maybe I mis-stated my stance a bit. Bottom line is athletes/celebs shouldn't be shocked when they are fired on strike one so to speak. There is no rule/law saying everyone gets 3 strikes in life so use them wisely.  That was my point sorry if it wasn't stated very clear. I probably could have done it with less words honestly.

More bad news for Ocho Stinko.  VH1 just pulled his reality show.

Take it for what it's worth TMZ,but Did anyone else know this isn't Chad's first Domestic Violence issue?
TMZ story link (http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/14/chad-johnson-history-of-domestic-violence-guilty-conviction/)

In 2000 He slapped his GF,and got in some trouble...

Chad issued an apology which sounds like a "CONFESSION" to me.

http://ocnnreport.com/2012/08/14/chad-johnson-releases-statement/

And his wife filed for divorce.  After what he did to her, he better settle quick.

I gotta say I am inclined to side with some of the comments on that article.  It definitely seems like his wife was just looking for a pay day, and this is her opening to get half of all his stuff by divorcing him. 

I think his wife is a deplorable person (doesn't mean she deserves to get hit), and I fully believe she was beating his ass and possibly throwing stuff at him before he ever touched her.  Of course that side will never come out cause Chad won't say so.  She's not the type to just talk stuff out.

If Ocho was stupid enough to marry that woman without a prenup, and undisciplined enough to lose control and hit her, then he deserves to lose half his money.

I would like to make it clear that I am, in no way, blaming the victim (Lozada) for her assault.  That being said, Antoine Walker is probably the happiest person in the world this week.  If there is ever an example of dodging a bullet...

Right - as if she would agree to sign a prenup, knowing her reputation.  I highly doubt she would agree to that.

Love & Lust...makes us do many stupid things....

I stand behind my statement.  Chad Johnson is not some middle manager at a packaging plant.  If she won't sign a prenup, then don't marry her.  There are thousands of women who would be happy to sign a prenup in order to marry a famous (former?) NFL player.

edit:  From ESPN.com (link (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8268607/evelyn-lozada-files-divorce-chad-johnson)):

In court papers filed Tuesday, Lozada says the two had a premarital agreement, but asks Johnson pay for her attorney fees associated with the divorce.

Wow, I am surprised.  But if I was Chad I'd tell her to go F herself on the attorney's fees, since, after all, she's the one asking for the divorce.

Um, she's not exactly asking for one on frivolous grounds.

I wouldn't take that advice. If I were Chad I would pay her attorney fees and get this over with ASAP and move on from the whole matter. Pay it and she probably won't press charges and this whole thing goes away from a "legal aspect". If you refuse to pay she can press charges and it will cost him a lot more than just money and possibly jail time or probation of some sort.

She has already pressed charges.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000049021/article/evelyn-lozada-to-press-charges-against-chad-johnson

Not saying she's not justified to ask for divorce, but Chad's not the one who wants to get divorced so why should he have to pay for it?  If it was his choice, they would stay married and work it out.

Because it's his fault?

Would it have been unreasonable for Elin Nordegren to ask for attorney fees when she wanted a divorce from Tiger Woods?

Innocent until proven guilty?  No court of law has proven Chad Johnson to be guilty up to now.

No court found Tiger Woods "guilty" of adultery, either.

At the end of the day, she can ask for whatever she wants; it's the place of the divorce court to determine what she gets.  And if Chad continues his current stance ("I would never say anything bad about my wife"), then it's her word against... well, nothing, and the judge would have no reason not to grant her request.

If it comes out that she hit him first (which is not unthinkable, given her violent (http://sandrarose.com/2011/03/recap-tami-roman-and-evelyn-lozadas-catfight-on-bb-wives/) history (http://celebpromoter.com/basketball-wives-full-episode-evelyn-vs-royce-fist-fight-video/)), then maybe there's an argument to be made.  But barring something along those lines, she is perfectly entitled to stick him with the attorney fees.

Chad knows he is going to need to re-shape his image and such, refusing to pay his wife's attorney fee's when money is really not an object to him isn't the way to go. Just pay it, get the issue behind you and out of the public eye, and move on with life. Some battles aren't worth fighting and are just lose-lose! This is one of them.

Report out this morning that Chad Johnson broke the court order and contacted his soon to be ex-wife.

If there was any ever doubt Miami made the right call this is it. The guy is in a bad state right now between the ears. This is gonna cost him  bigtime.

Especially since they were married less than two months.

They don't screw around if you violate a restraining/no contact order.

I know and the fact his wife filed for divorce so quick makes me think her frame of mind is she is very pissed and ain't messing around. So if Chad violates something I have no doubt she will have him put in jail.