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ESPN's Adam Schefter is reporting that Matt Flynn isn't favored to be the Week 1 starter and that it's much more likely rookie Russell Wilson wins the starting job.

In addition to that, John Clayton says Peyton Manning has experienced problems throwing to his right and has diminished arm strength.

Still far too early to tell, but maybe Tannehill really was the best option available. Even if he winds up failing, if everyone else does as well, we didn't make the wrong choice because we were dead anyway.

It's possible.   Manning's arm isn't ever going to be exactly what it was.  Marino's arm was never the same after the achilles injury.  Nobody knows how good Flynn is.  He's only got a few starts.  He has great numbers because he played for one of the best offenses in football.  So if either of them falls on their ass I suppose you can count it as a bullet dodged.

Some of us didn't think it was incompetant not to sign Flynn in the first place.  ;D

I wouldn't start giving Jeff Ireland the good housekeeping seal of approval just yet.  Take a look at the free agent signings:

Artis Hicks will probably start all year but he's really only a serviceable player.

Richard Marshall will start all year and while he is solid,  I don't imagine getting the bang for our buck on him.
 
Legedu Naanee might be having a good camp, but let's find out when he actually does something in a game.

Now for the draft choices.  I'd hate to say this but the early returns on the aren't looking so hot with the exception of Tannehill.

 
-Jonathan Martin has made me wish we brought back Marc Colombo.  I get headaches when I think that.

-Olivier Vernon has not shown me a competent pass rush yet

-Michael Egnew clearly doesn't belong in the NFL.

-Lamar Miller is behind Steve Slaton on the depth chart and not exactly turning heads on kick returns

-Josh Kaddu will be lucky to make the roster

-B.J. Cunningham will not be that lucky

-Kheeston Randall might get in 100 snaps or so but not be of any impact

-Rishard Matthews MIGHT make the roster
 

Combine this with the overall performance of last year's draft class and Jeff Ireland could be on thin ice after this season.  For the long term health of this team, let's hope so.

^^there is talk of Kaddu possibly starting over Misi! lol, he is going to make the team unless he becomes shockingly bad overnight.

I was one who thought we failed on free agent QBs by letting Flynn go. It seems I am being proven wrong.

I don't think the Fins were incompetent at all with regards to Flynn and Manning.  Manning had already decided ahead of time that he didn't want to play for Miami, so nothing wrong there.  As for Flynn it could be said the Fins were actually completely competent in that they offered him a fair amount of money for his talent level, which seems to be correct.

I would have liked Flynn in Miami but I wouldn't have wanted Miami to overpay fo rhim. I guess Philbin wasn't either and Ireland make the right call. I just laugh at those fans and people in the media who believe Miami "chased Flynn and whiffed". They offered him 1 contract, he said no. They moved on to someone else. No chasing and no whiffing.

^^^ I also found the "low-balling" comments a bit of amusement.

Well Ireland probably did low ball him some, but that's how the game is played in free agency. I am just glad Miami didn't beg or overpay for him.

Bottom line is Flynn should fire his agent. To go to Seattle where they had Jackson already in place was silly. If he gets beat out by a short rookie QB who wasn't even picked in the first 2 rounds that says alot. Where if he came to Miami, yeah a little less money but he is probably handed the starters job (hell we can see it was anyone but Moore this year) and Tannehill most likely isn't even drafted by Miami.  I mean you can't say for sure if Miami would have still taken Tanney but I would venture a guess no.

He would get handed the starters job for the same reason Tannehill has it now..... He knows Philbin's system.

The Herlad is listing Kaddu as one of the players on the bubble of not making the team at all. Landshark may have nailed this one.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/08/24/v-fullstory/2965838/several-miami-dolphins-players.html
-EK

Being on the "BUBBLE" according to a 2nd rate reporter for THAT newspaper doesn't put you in danger of not making the team. It's one man's opinion at a 2nd rate newspaper.    The Dolphins have no depth at LB and the kid is the best backup OLB they currently have and best chance to get Misi (who is struggling in the switch to a 4-3) out of the lineup. Plus he plays special teams.

The same Miami Herald ran a headline saying Mike McCoy was going to be the next Miami Dolphins head coach back in January, 24 hours later Philbin was announced. Take their work with a grain of salt. Unless its coming from Ben Volin at the PBP and even (can't believe I am saying this) Omar Kelly SunSent...take it with a grain of salt.

Exactly. That is why Flynn should fire his agent. Horrible career move for him.

Interesting, insofar as the SunSent agrees with the link I already posted:
"Karlos Dansby (injured), Kevin Burnett (injured) and Koa Misi are the starters. Jamaal Westerman, who can also play defensive end, makes it because of his versatility. And Trusnik is on because of his special teams contributions. The final decision comes down to Gary Guyton, Josh Kaddu or Austin Spitler, and at the moment none of them have earned the final spot for a linebacker. That unit is weak. But for the sake of experience, and factoring in Dansby and Burnett's injuries, my vote goes to Guyton. But it could easily be Kaddu because of his upside. He's been horrible in camp, but is coming on lately. Maybe showing up late because he was attending classes set Kaddu back?"

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-08-23/sports/sfl-projecting-the-miami-dolphins-53man-roster-20120823_1_53-man-roster-offensive-linemen-darren-rizzi/2

-EK

At worst he makes the practice squad and gets a roster spot later on in the year. But I would be shocked if he isn't on the opening day roster

It's entirely possible that if Miami had signed Flynn as a FA, they would have waited a couple of rounds to draft a QB, say round 3, drafted Russell Wilson, and we would have had the same camp battle that the Seahawks are having.

I know Wilson is surprising folks with his impressive early performance, but I "still" think that Russell has the ability to be a very good NFL QB, despite his munchkin status.

After the first half Wilson just put up, instead of wearing a baseball cap and holding a clipboard for Aaron Rodgers and having a chance to get a ring, Flynn will now be wearing a baseball cap and holding a clip board for Russell Wilson! lol lol

After watching Wilson, Earl Thomas, and Golden Tate and thinking that these are guys the Dolphins had a chance to get...... Sigh

I don't care about Wilson. But Jarrard Odrick/Koa Misi over Earl Thomas was a horrible move. Didn't make sense at the time when we had Langford/Merling/Soliai/Starks on our roster already. That isn't a knock on Odrick, he is a good player, but we didn't need another d-linemen. Still makes no sense because the value of trading down to get the extra pick (ended up being Misi) and Misi is a marginal player.

Odrick has yet to show me anything special.  He is inconsistent and injury prone.  Misi is also inconsistent and may lose his starting job.  That entire draft showed Parcells unbearable fixation with linebackers and as a result, several positions of need on offense went unadressed.  Not only could the Dolphins have gotten Earl Thomas in that draft but they also could've landed Aaron Hernandez.

Oddrick has had 1 injury in his life. Since year 1 he hasn't been hurt at all really. But he is a good pass rushing DT we are playint at DE and sliding inside on passing downs. Which is fine. He is a solid player. Can't knock the guy he hasn't done anything wrong. Just that Earl Thomas would have been a better pick. Just like Jake Long, not a bad player, but Matt Ryan would have been the smarter pick.

Misi is just a run of the mill player, nothing special.

He hasn't shown anything special.  A smidge better than average at times but not consistently good.  This is not the type of player you would use a first rounder on.


 
And this is not the type of player you would use a second round pick on.

Its healthier not to think of players the Dolphins could've drafted. Just sayin'.