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For me, it's David Garrard.

1) He's not going to be on this team for longer than 1-2 years (max).
2) He's not healthy, nor was he healthy last year.
3) He's new, so he has no leadership cred with the team.
4) In my opinion, he's not good enough to warrant waiting around for him.
5) Matt Moore played well enough last year to let him be the backup and seems to be a "team guy".
6) You can't have multiple bum veterans.

Moore has some minor trade value. Maybe a 6th or 7th round pick. Maybe some team that is loaded at WR has someone they are gonna cut anyway to exchange to make it worthwhile if they need a back-up QB.

Garrard has no value to anyone else and Miami paid him a million bucks in a signing bonus so to cut him prior to week 1 makes them look totally stupid.

Bottom line is if someone offers anything for Moore than he is as good as gone. His sorry ass will be sent packing. If not then Ireland takes the egg on his face and probably cuts Garrard.

I say it all depends on how fast Garrard can come back from his injury. 

I don't see any upside to keeping Garrard.  He has no team cred and (IMO) it would simply serve to damage morale.

Given that Moore is an Ireland acquisition, Garrard over Moore says that Philbin wants his guys instead of whoever may be the right guy.  Garrard is a giant question mark that was out of the league last year and hasn't been healthy in two.  What kind of insurance policy is that?

being that the backup QB is there to be dependable insurance option incase the starter gets hurt, I'd rather keep the guy that's not made out of glass.

Why is it a given that one of them will be cut? One's a rookie, one's injured ATM. I'd keep all three. Miami doesn't really need as many receivers and half backs as they have. I'd drop one of them first. -EK

^^^ We have four QBs on the roster. I'd say Garrard. He and Moore are playing the same role and Garrard has injury issues of late.

I'm wondering if Garrard would be OK to be the #3 man.  If not, he's got to go.  Although Devlin has looked good, I would be very nervous about him playing actual real time.

Devlin can be put on the practice roster again.

Lol I thought that was a given. -EK

Just because he can be does not take him out of this conversation.

^^ Absolutely agree, I was just pointing out that having 4 QB's on the roster does not mean that we can't keep all 4 with 1 on the practice squad. I don't actually think that's what's going to happen, but it could at least for a couple weeks.

I'm not discounting the idea that Devlin could be the #2 QB to start the season with Garrard or Moore being the #3.

he has to clear waivers before he can be placed on the practice squad.  in other words he would have to be cut and no one else wants him.  Its a risk, especially if he's playing well.

Yeah, but if he can't get on the field, there's no point in throwing good money after bad.

I personally think,it will depend on who else around the league gets cut,in the last wave of cuts.

I think if we don't sign someone else off the waiver wire,trade for someone,Moore will be the back up.

I could just as easily see them liking someone that get's cuts,put them on the practice squad,or replacing the back up QB all together.

I feel the only person that might want more than a month to month lease is Tannehill...

I could see us (secretly) trying to trade Moore.  If it doesn't work, cut Garrard. 

Either that, or keep all 4 for a year.  I think Devlin is a very good future backup prospect.  He is cheap, young and making good progress.  We may even be able to get value for him in a couple of years.

I see almost no reason to carry Garrard and Moore on the same roster.  It's a waste of a spot, in my opinion.  If Garrard is healthy, you don't need Moore.  And if Garrard isn't healthy, you don't need Garrard.  I don't think it makes sense to have 2 "leadership veterans" at the position.  You have the starter, the veteran, and the "in-case shit" emergency player.

In my opinon the answer to that question really comes down to how you feel about Devlin. If you feel that Devlin might actually be a decent replacement for Tannehill in week 1, you might decide to keep Garrard and have Devlin be the #2 QB until Garrard is healthy. If you don't feel confident enough in Devlin, then you probably need to keep Moore and cut Garrard.

The only reason to keep Garrard and Moore is if they truly were going to let Tannehill sit.  Make him #3 on the depth chart and let Moore/Garrard be 1 and 2.

If Tannehill is starting, neither of those guys are going to sit at #3, so one has got to go.  Although, given the choice of be #3 or be cut, I wonder what a guy like Garrard would choose.

Miami is in the bottom 5 of the league in salary cap space. It makes little sense to keep BOTH Garrard and Moore. Financially stupid. Especially when you  are starting a young rookie you took 8th overall that you believe in. Actually it makes no sense at all.

Devlin has improved enough where another team might grab him before Miami can put him on the practice squad.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/23/cardinals-could-be-looking-for-a-veteran-quarterback/

Schefter reporting Arizona in the market for a vet QB. Another team that might be in the Moore market if Miami makes him available for a 7th rounder or something.

A 7th round pick is pretty worthless.  What's the point?  At best you get a special teams or reserve player.  Most likely you end up cutting the guy before camp ends.

Not worthless. Because next season Moore is a FA and gone. A 7th round pick (while nothing to do back flips about) is more valuable than nothing. Plus Miami is in the bottom 5 of salary cap space currently and trading him opens up some space AAP.

IF they are confident in Tannehill and what he can do, then its a smart move. IF Garrard is healthy enough to hold a clipboard and maybe play if need be for a while, then its a smart move.

I agree.  He is playing a lot better than last year.  Putting him on the practice squad would be a big gamble at this point.

Mike, I see what you're saying but what do they need the cap space for?  The roster is what it is.  Its not like there's suddenly a hot FA they need money to chase down.

And if it continues, I could see Devlin emerging as the #2 QB next season.

A 7th round pick is clearly better than nothing, but I just don't think its worth it.  Should at least push for a 5th rounder or something.  That's cheap for a low-end starting-caliber QB.

The Miami Herald ran an interesting piece on who they perceive will be cut. Among the QB's, Tannehill is (obviously) a "lock" to make the team. Moore was listed as "in good shape," and Devlin and Garrard were both listed as on the "bubble." Of course they have no actual decision making, but it was an interesting piece.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/08/24/v-fullstory/2965838/several-miami-dolphins-players.html

-EK

cut Garrard.  Unless you want to put Devlin on the taxi squad.

You always want cap space. What if injuries occur and Miami needs to add someone, even if its a scrub you need cap space. Plus you always want to be in good cap space and not be right at the limit. That's just bad business overall.

Jason LaCanfora hinting that Miami could trade Moore to Arizona

The team will also have to figure out what to do with its backup quarterback situation. Garrard should be back in a few weeks, as expected, according to a source with knowledge of the situation. Moore, who has looked solid for spells with Carolina and the Dolphins, would have more trade value of the two (Arizona could be a candidate in that instance, other general managers have suggested to me).

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/19902089/dolphins-immediate-future-rough-but-they-now-have-qb-to-build-around

you could probably trade Garrard to Arizona and still get a 5th round pick for him.  They're desperate for anybody that can hit the broad side of the stadium.

Injured he has no value. Miami could reach an injury settlement with him tomorrow though and cut him loose. Miami MUST make 1 more roster move by Monday. The fact they didn't cut another guy Saturday tells me another trade is on the horizon. Someone is going on IR. OR an injury settlement with Garrard.