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Title: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 11, 2012, 08:15:11 pm
Read'em and weep. 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/11/watt-says-he-picked-up-dolphins-snap-count-from-hard-knocks/


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: tubba marxxx on September 11, 2012, 08:17:06 pm
and in a related story the Texans are stripped of their first round pick and Watt is fined $100,000. 


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: EKnight on September 11, 2012, 08:19:43 pm
I said it was a bad idea from the start.

And another +1. The off the field idiocy for the past three years has already been more than enough. Keep this team out of public view, besides the actual games, until it can have at least a .500 season. -EK

-EK


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: MikeO on September 11, 2012, 08:53:22 pm
And because JJ Watts says it that makes it true  ::)

As another national reporter said today, you can get snap counts from any preseason telecast because of the way they do audio as most are local telecasts and not all games are done by the pros at ESPN, NBC...etc


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: tubba marxxx on September 11, 2012, 09:00:24 pm
And because JJ Watts says it that makes it true  ::)

As another national reporter said today, you can get snap counts from any preseason telecast because of the way they do audio as most are local telecasts and not all games are done by the pros at ESPN, NBC...etc


Hence changing the snap count for each game.....assuming a rookie coach was smart enough to do that....


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: MikeO on September 11, 2012, 09:08:35 pm

Hence changing the snap count for each game.....assuming a rookie coach was smart enough to do that....

You don't think they did? Why because JJ Watts said so? Give me a break. Houston led the league in batting down balls at the line of scrimmage  in the entire league all last year. Did they have every teams snap count last season?

This is just a player talking junk. Probably pissed that Incognito was trying to hurt people on his d-line so he is now trying to embarrass the Fins or something like that. This story screams of a guy trying to make a headline.


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: tubba marxxx on September 11, 2012, 09:14:57 pm
You don't think they did? Why because JJ Watts said so? Give me a break. Houston led the league in batting down balls at the line of scrimmage  in the entire league all last year. Did they have every teams snap count last season?

This is just a player talking junk. Probably pissed that Incognito was trying to hurt people on his d-line so he is now trying to embarrass the Fins or something like that. This story screams of a guy trying to make a headline.


No, I agree with you 100% but I just wouldn't put "failure to do something" past this franchise.  I was being a wise-ass.  Lost in translation I guess.  Thanks to Hard Knocks, we know how anal Philbin is so this was probably just Watt getting his name out there as you say.  OR, he himself was being a smartass and the media :: cough, mike florio, cough :: blew it out of proportion


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: el diablo on September 11, 2012, 10:44:31 pm
I still think it was a good idea. Houston was just a better team.


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: hordman on September 12, 2012, 07:25:08 am
This is just a player talking junk. Probably pissed that Incognito was trying to hurt people on his d-line so he is now trying to embarrass the Fins or something like that. This story screams of a guy trying to make a headline.

Richie's a baaaaddddddd man.  Seems as though Kubiak watched the game film from Sunday's game and didn't see anything illegal or wrongdoing.

He seems he's cleaned up his act and just plays hard nosed football. Good for him.  Need more physical players on the line like him.

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/football/other_nfl/view/20120911dolphins_richie_incognito_says_he_no_longer_plays_dirty/srvc=home&position=recent (http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/football/other_nfl/view/20120911dolphins_richie_incognito_says_he_no_longer_plays_dirty/srvc=home&position=recent)


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: Brian Fein on September 12, 2012, 07:47:15 am
For the record, mike florio and pft aren't exactly the most reputable news source. They publish lies and make up stories regularly. I hate them.


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: jimmythefinger on September 12, 2012, 09:06:47 am
To me worst part of Hard Knocks was watching Philbin picking on players for not tying their shoes and having to urinate. The guy's supposed to be a leader of MEN. He's picking gum wrappers up off the field. Meanwhile, in the background, he's got Julius Pruitt, Legedu Naanae and Roberto Wallace running routes.


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: Phishfan on September 12, 2012, 09:22:12 am
This story came out before the game and I thought it was BS then and now. Like it was previously mentioned, a player can learn more from watching the four preseason tapes than they can from Hard Knocks.


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: BigDaddyFin on September 12, 2012, 11:08:59 am
I told you all repeatedly it was a bad idea to be on Hard Knocks.  The response was overwhelmingly that I was overreacting.

JJ Watts will never have another game like that as long as he's a pro. 


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: Cathal on September 12, 2012, 11:23:14 am
To me worst part of Hard Knocks was watching Philbin picking on players for not tying their shoes and having to urinate. The guy's supposed to be a leader of MEN. He's picking gum wrappers up off the field. Meanwhile, in the background, he's got Julius Pruitt, Legedu Naanae and Roberto Wallace running routes.

The point of showing him doing such menial things was to point out his eye for detail. It's supposed to prop him up as someone who studies everything and to tell people that you can't do the big things right if you don't look at the small things. It's not that difficult to see.


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: Dave Gray on September 12, 2012, 02:54:36 pm
I think it's a good idea, still.  I wish we'd do it every year.

Even if he picked it up from Hard Knocks (which is probably bullshit), there is still plenty of tape of preseason games.  If your snap count is predictable, that's your problem....not a reality show.

I am of the belief that sunlight on an issue is a good thing.  Put it all out there and people either play better or they don't.  Trying to cover up your ineffectiveness is no help.


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: bsfins on September 12, 2012, 03:28:08 pm
 :'( At 9pm last night I was hurrying up,channel surfing up to HBO to watch Hard Knocks...Then remembered it was over... :'(


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: MikeO on September 12, 2012, 05:09:35 pm
I think it's a good idea, still.  I wish we'd do it every year.

Even if he picked it up from Hard Knocks (which is probably bullshit), there is still plenty of tape of preseason games.  If your snap count is predictable, that's your problem....not a reality show.

I am of the belief that sunlight on an issue is a good thing.  Put it all out there and people either play better or they don't.  Trying to cover up your ineffectiveness is no help.

Yep. It is what it is every year. The show is a formula that never changes. The guys that got the most air-time are gone (Hogan, Brown, Root, Chad, Garrard...etc) and are for the most part scrubs. Nothing significant ever happens on the show really. Rookies get hazed some. Assistant coaches with "wacky personalities" are showcased (ala Jim Turner). The head coach gets a lot of air time. Different year, same show.  It's really a show for football junkies as the casual fan would find it boring.


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: jimmythefinger on September 13, 2012, 10:46:47 pm
The point of showing him doing such menial things was to point out his eye for detail. It's supposed to prop him up as someone who studies everything and to tell people that you can't do the big things right if you don't look at the small things. It's not that difficult to see.

That's what the script writers said, what the script writers made it out to be. And eye for detail's a good thing if you're not missing out on the big picture -- i.e. arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. He's picking on players for not tying their shoes, having to urinate, dropping the F-bomb. He hasn't won a game yet. I'm rooting for the guy. But that don't make me blind.


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: Cathal on September 14, 2012, 08:25:56 am
^^^^ I'm sure there were plenty of people on this board making fun of Vontae for having to pee more than the 50+ year old coach. And, let's be honest, not tying your shoes could get you injured.  ;D


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: Landshark on September 14, 2012, 09:12:27 am
^^^^ I'm sure there were plenty of people on this board making fun of Vontae for having to pee more than the 50+ year old coach. And, let's be honest, not tying your shoes could get you injured.  ;D

If you're out there working hard in that South Florida heat, you shouldn't have to pee, even if you're drinking a lot of water.  You're sweating rivers constantly.


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: jimmythefinger on September 14, 2012, 10:22:34 pm
If you're out there working hard in that South Florida heat, you shouldn't have to pee, even if you're drinking a lot of water.  You're sweating rivers constantly.

This from a guy named after a beer?


Title: Re: So who still thinks Hard Knocks was a bright idea?
Post by: Landshark on September 14, 2012, 10:38:22 pm
This from a guy named after a beer?

It's common knowledge, and I've had it happen to me.  I've been out on my boat in the muggy Florida heat in mid July and August and sweated like a pig.  One time I drank ten bottles of water during a fishing trip.  Didn't have to pee a drop because I sweated so much.