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Does Manziel win the Heisman this year?

Definitely in the conversation. Only one bad game (vs. LSU), as a freshman. 68% completion percentage. 24 TD's to 8 int's. 3 of those came in one game.

He's a freshman, he's got three more chances to win it.  Texas A&M figures to be scary good next year.

He had 19 rushing too?

I think there are enough arrogant sports writers that won't vote for a freshman.

Sorry. I just came across that fact this morning. Along with the 3419 passing yds.

Apparently not.  Now you can call this kid Johnny Heisman.

BUMP

Looks like he might not see the field this year and possibly not again.  Word is out he signed autographs for money, a clear and serious violation of NCAA rules.

Actually, looks like now that it's a rich white kid that broke the rules, suddenly The Media is in an uproar about The Plight Of The College Athlete.  Is Johnny Manziel college football's Rosa Parks because he signed some jerseys for money?  According to a Fox Sports reporter, yes (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/johnny-manziel-case-was-tipping-point-in-ncaa-hypocrisy-080813).

Oh, and this same reporter's opinion of Terrelle Pryor receiving free tattoos?  A "college football terrorist." (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-commissioner-Roger-Goodell-right-to-punsh-Ohio-State-QB-Terrell-Pryor-after-NCAA-failed-082411)  The irony doesn't stop there, either.  More about Pryor (emphasis added):

"Please also stop with the 'he’s a catalyst for change' meme.

Real change begins with a guy willing to sacrifice for a larger principle, the guy standing in front of the tank at Tiananmen Square, not a guy trying to get the Chinese word for 'Buckeye' tattooed onto his bicep for free.

No revolution ever began with “Free tattoos” as a battle cry. Or “Show me the money,” as in Reggie Bush’s case, or “Hey, Nevin, pass me a stripper,” as in the allegations against The Miami 15."

Apparently, Johnny Football selflessly sacrificing himself to take money for signing jerseys is just the principled stand America needed.

Now, I've previously said that I think the NCAA is shamelessly exploiting these players.  But the rank hypocrisy on display sickens me.  That being said, if it takes a rich, white, Heisman-winning QB from the SEC to break the rules in order for people to question how exploitative they are, I'll take it.

I don't think it will change anything. The NCAA stands to lose too much money if it lets this happen, plus all the major sports will just turn into farm teams for the pros.
Also once they can get paid, what stops the big money boosters from getting involved and paying players to attend certain programs.

Mt problem with the kid has nothing to do with these NCAA rules. I think he is simply an overgrown brat. His other actions are what concern me much more than this autograph story.

I agree Phish. The only statement this kid is making is he is an immature ass.

+1

Susprned for one half of first game. This is why the NCAA has NO credibility.

The NCAA should suspend itself, permanently

NCAA: Johnny, did you make any money off those signings?
Manziel: No.

Obviously nothing to see here.

They could have subpoenaed his bank records for deposits. I doubt he took no money for all those autographs.

^^^^ You don't think it would of been a cash deal? Why leave a paper trail if you knowingly are doing something illegal?

Any bank deposits don't mean anything but circumstantial.  it would be suspicious, but doesn't prove anything

What I don't understand is how the NCAA can go after Miami with blazing barrels and they've been doing it for three years, but they spend all of five minutes with Johnny Manziel.

Sounds like EA Sports and their college football game if you ask me.

^^^Do the college games have actual players on them?

^^^ They do not name them but they use their current numbers (and I believe their listed size). There is a current lawsuit led by Ed O'Bannon. Several football players have joined in as well now.

Yes they do. I've never played them, but a couple of quick clicks to the EA Sports College Football game page confirmed:

http://www.easports.com/ncaa-football (http://www.easports.com/ncaa-football)

I'm certain that is Denard Robinson, Michigan's QB the past few seasons (and a utility QB/RB/WRthat I drafted in my huge dynasty IDP league's rookie draft this past week). RGIII (and someone else) was on the 2013 game, and Mark Ingram was on the 2012 game.

I am 100% there with you on this.

Dez Bryant should be flipping over tables right about now.  He got suspended for the remainder of a season (9 games) for having a conversation with Deion Sanders, yet Manziel is selling autographs and he gets "suspended" (?!?) for ONE FREAKING HALF OF A GAME after a five-minute investigation?