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Title: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovan Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: bsfins on December 01, 2012, 11:17:53 am
Jovan Belcher Linebacker killed his Gf,then killed himself at the Chiefs Facility
News link to T.V. station in K.C. (http://www.kctv5.com/story/20234680/police-chiefs-players-kills-girlfriend-then-kills-self#.ULokEhG3XqQ.twitter)

TMZ story (http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/01/kc-chiefs-player-kills-gf-self-shooting)

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Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovian Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: Fins4ever on December 01, 2012, 11:30:40 am
Horrible news!

As if that is not bad enough.....

If someone has decided to take their own life, I don't understand why they would kill someone else and why they need an audience. The people that witnessed this tragedy will never get the picture out of their mind.

http://deadspin.com/5964841/report-kansas-city-chiefs-lb-javon-belcher-killed-his-girlfriend-drove-to-the-chiefs-practice-facility-and-killed-himself-


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovian Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: Landshark on December 01, 2012, 01:48:34 pm
^^^^

It could be that either he was trying to escape the legal ramifications of murdering his girlfriend or he couldn't live with himself after what he did.  Either way, his eternal fate is much worse than life in prison.


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovian Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: MikeO on December 01, 2012, 02:07:13 pm
He was probably "on something" as well. Maybe to many steroids or he took too many shots to the head. Like those loser fake pro wrestlers who often snap and do something stupid and all end up dead before they turn 40!

The NFL shouldn't play a game there tomorrow either. Move the game  one day to Monday night,  but I wouldn't hold a game at that stadium less than 24 hours after a suicide took place there by one of the players. And if any of those players "honor" this guy by writing his number on the tape on their wrists or pointing to the sky or anything fine and suspend them as well. This guy is a murderer not some fallen hero by any means!


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovian Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: Sunstroke on December 01, 2012, 04:34:26 pm

A sad situation, for sure... Obviously there is a lot of "why" information missing, but you just hate to see anyone die that young.

if any of those players "honor" this guy by writing his number on the tape on their wrists or pointing to the sky or anything fine and suspend them as well.

Unless you're being completely facetious there, your statement is 100% USDA choice horseshit.

Either way, his eternal fate is much worse than life in prison.

According to your preferred work of fiction, anyway... In the really-real world, his "eternal fate" is pretty much the same as everyone else that dies.





Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovian Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: Landshark on December 02, 2012, 12:51:06 pm
Unless you're being completely facetious there, your statement is 100% USDA choice horseshit.

That's an excellent observation and sensual description Mr. Sunstroke.  Do you speak from experience?

According to your preferred work of fiction, anyway... In the really-real world, his "eternal fate" is pretty much the same as everyone else that dies.

You believe what you believe, and I will believe what I believe.  When we die, we will find out whose beliefs were right and whose were wrong.  Until then, let's not breed religious drama.


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovan Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: Pats2006 on December 02, 2012, 12:53:38 pm
How about the coaches that had to witness him shoot him self in the head.. How could you even sleep after some shit like that. I think that they should have called the game off.


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovian Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: masterfins on December 02, 2012, 01:40:35 pm
He was probably "on something" as well. Maybe to many steroids or he took too many shots to the head. Like those loser fake pro wrestlers who often snap and do something stupid and all end up dead before they turn 40!

Let's not spread rumors about something you have no clue about.  Plenty of people commit murder and/or suicide without being on something.

It's a tragic situation for all the survivors left behind.  The NFL is making a big mistake in letting this game go forward.  It's a cop out to push it onto the Chiefs, then the front office pushes it onto the coach and players.  The people with the authority to stop the game should have stepped up and cancelled the game.   There is no way the players can put this out of their minds, injuries just waiting to happen from this distraction.


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovian Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: MikeO on December 02, 2012, 02:02:39 pm
Let's not spread rumors about something you have no clue about.  Plenty of people commit murder and/or suicide without being on something.

It's a tragic situation for all the survivors left behind.  The NFL is making a big mistake in letting this game go forward.  It's a cop out to push it onto the Chiefs, then the front office pushes it onto the coach and players.  The people with the authority to stop the game should have stepped up and cancelled the game.   There is no way the players can put this out of their minds, injuries just waiting to happen from this distraction.

Not a rumor, just an opinion!

The moment of silence before the game was BULLSHIT too. This wasn't a domestic violence issue, it was a "MURDER"!!


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovian Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: Pats2006 on December 02, 2012, 03:02:13 pm
He was probably "on something" as well. Maybe to many steroids or he took too many shots to the head. Like those loser fake pro wrestlers who often snap and do something stupid and all end up dead before they turn 40!

lmao.. steroids dont make you kill someone


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovian Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: EKnight on December 02, 2012, 03:04:23 pm
lmao.. steroids dont make you kill someone

Typical Mike comment, Pats2006. The wrestlers in question (guessing he means noteably, Benoit) had therapeutic doses of test in their systems upon autopsy, but suffered from severe brain trauma. -EK


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovian Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: Pats2006 on December 02, 2012, 03:08:44 pm
Typical Mike comment, Pats2006. The wrestlers in question (guessing he means noteably, Benoit) had therapeutic doses of test in their systems upon autopsy, but suffered from severe brain trauma. -EK

yea, brain trauma can cause problems.. as far as roid rage its a myth


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovian Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: EKnight on December 02, 2012, 03:09:23 pm
yea, brain trauma can cause problems.. as far as roid rage its a myth

Exactly. -EK


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovian Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: MikeO on December 02, 2012, 03:13:28 pm
yea, brain trauma can cause problems.. as far as roid rage its a myth

I wouldn't call it a myth. You might not want to believe it, but many people do. So there is a difference of opinions on this issue. Get a wack job who is on roids and he might do crazy things (even murder if he is in the wrong frame of mind). It will be interesting to see if any toxicology reports come back from this player and we find out what if anything was in his system.


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovan Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: EKnight on December 02, 2012, 03:14:44 pm
But the toxicology reports for those wrestlers did NOT show high levels. So...you're POV is a myth. -EK


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovan Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: MikeO on December 02, 2012, 03:16:54 pm
But the toxicology reports for those wrestlers did NOT show high levels. So...you're POV is a myth. -EK

I don't know anything about any wrestler so I have no clue what your talking about, nor do I care. I don't watch that gay ass phony crap nor follow it.

I am talking in general about side effects of steroids. It's an opinion held by some that I agree with. That's all Im saying


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovan Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: EKnight on December 02, 2012, 03:25:05 pm
If you don't care about it, why did you bring it up? You initiated that- no one else here. -EK


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovan Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: MikeO on December 02, 2012, 03:27:18 pm
If you don't care about it, why did you bring it up? You initiated that- no one else here. -EK
  ::) I just gave my opinion


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovan Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: Landshark on December 02, 2012, 03:36:15 pm
If you don't care about it, why did you bring it up? You initiated that- no one else here. -EK

  ::) I just gave my opinion

Will you guys cut the fucking drama??  You've already gotten one thread locked today.


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovan Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: MikeO on December 02, 2012, 03:36:50 pm
Will you guys cut the fucking drama??  You've already gotten one thread locked today.

Thanks Dad. Really helping matters!


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovan Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: Landshark on December 02, 2012, 03:38:00 pm
Thanks Dad. Really helping matters!

Don't make me withhold your allowance for a month


Title: Re: K.C. Chiefs LB Jovan Belcher Murder Suicide
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 02, 2012, 03:47:13 pm
Two people dead.  Two families devistated.  And we have a petty thread about sterioids and wrestlers. 

Not anymore.  Locked.