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Title: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: MikeO on December 07, 2012, 11:18:32 pm http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/
The sense here, from people involved, is that he’s likely to go into free agency unsigned barring a change of heart by the Dolphins, who appear disinclined to pay him as much or more than his current salary ($4.5 million). Bush won't be motivated to take a paycut after two solid years of work here. So I'll be surprised if Bush returns, but we'll see how it plays out. The Dolphins don’t believe they need to see more of Miller – who is averaging 5.4 yards on 27 carries - to make a conclusion about him. “He’s going to be a good player,” Philbin said Thursday. “Good instincts as a runner, can catch the ball, good feet, has a chance to be a very good pass protector eventually. I’m excited about him.” Sherman echoes those sentiments: “I’m excited when he gets in the game.” Said Nolan Carroll: “He so fast and quick, he hits the hole and he’s gone.” And Cameron Wake said he's also "strong and powerful (enough) to run between the tackles." Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: Landshark on December 07, 2012, 11:58:16 pm If they don't need to see more of Miller then why aren't they playing him?
Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: MikeO on December 08, 2012, 12:07:35 am If they don't need to see more of Miller then why aren't they playing him? 1)There are only so many touches to go around at the RB position in a given game. 2) RB's can only take so many hits in this league, don't let him take un-necessary hits when the season is over (playoff wise). Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: EKnight on December 08, 2012, 09:26:48 am If they don't need to see more of Miller then why aren't they playing him? "While Miller has shown flashes, he has also been inactive on certain occasions as his pass blocking has not been up to NFL quality." http://phinphanatic.com/2012/12/05/ten-dolphins-goals-for-the-last-four-weeks/ "The Dolphins haven't been thrilled with Miller's awareness so far. His pass blocking hasn't been up to par, and he didn't hear an audible two weeks ago against the Jets and ran the wrong way on a handoff. " http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-10-09/miami-dolphins-lamar-miller-nfl-stats-week-6-fantasy-football-rb ^^ He has a total of 4 carries since this was reported. Draw your own conlcusions. -EK Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: MikeO on December 08, 2012, 11:07:48 am Phinfanatic is a "fan website" written by a guy sitting in his basement. I can't use that as a credible news source! Sorry.
And the AOL thing, lame. A rookie makes a mistake in a week 3 game, can't be upset over that forver. He will live it down! Plus almost all rookie RB's can't pass block on the NFL level and that takes time for them to learn. Rookies make mistakes, that's why they are rookies! I will use "legit" news sources over speculation from a "fan site" and an article written over 2 months ago. Things have changed clearly. Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 08, 2012, 11:15:59 am Philbin and Sherman's actions speak louder than words. If they really thought that Miller was an outstanding prospect that just need a bit more experience. They would be giving him that experience, particularly since the Dolphins have been out of the playoff hunt for a couple of weeks now.
Not saying they are keeping Bush...they may instead be thinking of signing someone in FA or drafting a RB. But his playing time is very telling about what they think of Miller. They have seen enough to decide he isn't going to be a #1 back anytime soon. Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: MikeO on December 08, 2012, 11:18:28 am Philbin and Sherman's actions speak louder than words. If they really thought that Miller was an outstanding prospect that just need a bit more experience. They would be giving him that experience, particularly since the Dolphins have been out of the playoff hunt for a couple of weeks now. Not saying they are keeping Bush...they may instead be thinking of signing someone in FA or drafting a RB. But his playing time is very telling about what they think of Miller. They have seen enough to decide he isn't going to be a #1 back anytime soon. I don't see them keeping Bush unless Bush wants to play for the same money he is making now. Thomas being a 2nd round pick I think they want to give him every opportunity to claim hold of the RB job which is why he plays alot. They want him to win it since the organization invested so much in getting him. Which is probably why Miller's chances have been limited. But I do belive Miller is the guy the like going forward the most. He is explosive which Thomas isn't and Bush isn't as much anymore. Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: EKnight on December 08, 2012, 11:55:50 am Three dozen sites carried the story. Omar Kelly also noted on his Twitter account, "Lamar Miller missed a block yesterday that could have put Ryan Tannehill out for the season. Tailbacks don't just run people."
I will use "legit" news sources over speculation from a "fan site" and an article written over 2 months ago. Things have changed clearly. Last 6 games: combined 6 carries for 19 yards, 3.1 ypc. Yeah. Things changed A LOT. -EK Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: MikeO on December 08, 2012, 01:01:37 pm ^^We know, we get it. You HATE Lamar Miller almost as much as you HATE Ryan Tannehill. We get it ::)
Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: Landshark on December 08, 2012, 04:43:48 pm ^^We know, we get it. You HATE Lamar Miller almost as much as you HATE Ryan Tannehill. We get it ::) You need to cut the fucking drama. Posts like this derail threads and contribute absolutely nothing to the discussions. Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: Spider-Dan on December 08, 2012, 05:21:30 pm I'd file this story under "Reggie Bush contract negotiations"
If they really thought Miller was a better option than Bush, he'd be getting more work. Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: Dave Gray on December 09, 2012, 11:50:10 pm I like Bush OK, but I don't think he's protected the football enough, and I'm not convinced that his style lends itself to an every down back. I don't think you can re-sign him for the type of money that he's expecting.
Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: Alwaysdullfan on December 10, 2012, 12:31:48 am I dunno about Miller, lil weird that they wouldn't play him more esp now since they're out of the playoffs, and really see if he's capable of being a starter in this leauge. That said, I also think Bush is doing more for the dolphins than ppl realize. He never gets 20+ carries, i dunno why, but his average is pretty good, so why not run him more. Since Miami traded Marshall who knows why, Bush is the best offensive weapon they have, they should use him more. Plus we dont have any real threat in passing game so defenses zero in on Bush and its harder for him to be puttin up big numbers, but I still think his numbers r good, only if the passing attack was lil bit better, Bush would of had another 1,000+ season, in my opinion. Thats why we need another solid WR either in FA or draft to go with Bess/Hartline and I think it will improve this offense by alot. Defense has been solid all season its the offense that cant put up points.
Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: masterfins on December 10, 2012, 12:57:08 pm Regarding Bush and Long, these comments are just negotiating tactics. The players know Miami has cap space, so their agents rightfully want to take as much as they can, conversely the Management wants to pay as little as possible. I see both of these players back on the team next year. Due to injuries, etc, neither of them are going to get that much more going to another team, and Management needs to focus on WR's and DB's. So...Miami will end up paying them both a little more than they want to, but they will both be back.
Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: Pappy13 on December 10, 2012, 01:14:05 pm Regarding Bush and Long, these comments are just negotiating tactics. The players know Miami has cap space, so their agents rightfully want to take as much as they can, conversely the Management wants to pay as little as possible. I see both of these players back on the team next year. Due to injuries, etc, neither of them are going to get that much more going to another team, and Management needs to focus on WR's and DB's. So...Miami will end up paying them both a little more than they want to, but they will both be back. I think Long will be back just because there's no tackles on the team besides Long and Martin, Garner is a stop-gap at best. I don't feel the same way about Bush, I think Miller, Thomas and Thigpen could share the load just fine in Bush's absence. Maybe not quite as good as Bush, but not the big drop off there is from Long to Garner. Besides, it's easier to find a replacement RB than it is a replacement LT in this league.Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: BigDaddyFin on December 10, 2012, 05:21:48 pm Unless Reggie wants to take a huge cut in pay, he's history and I think honestly we'll be ok without him.
Title: Re: Barry Jackson: Miami willing to let Bush go into FA /Love Lamar Miller Post by: MikeO on December 10, 2012, 06:45:09 pm Unless Reggie wants to take a huge cut in pay, he's history and I think honestly we'll be ok without him. He has done very little since September. I think last year was the exception and not the rule. I don't believe he is an everydown back in this league. And the injury excuse won't fly as that happened a while ago and he hasn't beenn on an injury report in a while. Its December now and he has done little to nothing for the majority of the season. He doesn't need to take a pay cut, but he isn't getting a raise. Equal money to what he makes now. That should be the top offer. |