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Title: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: raptorsfan29 on December 30, 2012, 07:24:40 pm
Take your pick


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: Tenshot13 on December 30, 2012, 07:52:48 pm
I hate to do this, but I think I'll go with Jake Long.  He was very disappointing this season.


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: Landshark on December 30, 2012, 08:11:49 pm
So many people deserving of it.  I'll have to think on this one.


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: Pappy13 on December 30, 2012, 08:20:36 pm
Charles Clay. I expected this to be a breakout year for him. Major disappointment.


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: EKnight on December 30, 2012, 08:24:06 pm
Egnew. Waste of a 3rd round pick and at a position they needed help with. The former All American finished the year with no stats. What a waste. -EK


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: Landshark on December 30, 2012, 08:36:08 pm
Good choices for both of you.  I'm giving mine to John Jerry.  This overweight, out-of-shape slob was a turnstile all season.  It got to the point where the 72 Dolphins called him out for not putting in the effort required of a pro athlete.  To think the Dolphins drafted this walrus over Aaron Hernandez.


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: dolphins4life on December 30, 2012, 09:03:58 pm
Carpenter.  Sorry, I can't get those missed kicks out of my head.


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: Thundergod on December 30, 2012, 11:01:50 pm
^^^

Goin with that, too. Carpenter.


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: Brian Fein on December 30, 2012, 11:19:16 pm
Richard Marshall


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: Dave Gray on December 31, 2012, 08:47:08 am
I also go with Carpenter.  While his overall kicking percentage was not bad, he directly missed 2 game winners.


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: miamid45 on December 31, 2012, 12:48:43 pm
1. Carpenter

2. Pass defence at crucial moments in big games...Sean Smiths dropped INT against the Colts comes to mind.

3. Too many missed chances inside the RED ZONE...despite the rookie QB, was hoping this offence was going to score alot more.


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: masterfins on December 31, 2012, 01:36:56 pm
1) Daniel Thomas

2) Brian Hartline - only ONE TD all season, which was a flukie 80 yarder.  If his name was Brandon Marshall there would be tons of people on this board hammering him.


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: Jim Gray on December 31, 2012, 01:59:07 pm
2) Brian Hartline - only ONE TD all season, which was a flukie 80 yarder.  If his name was Brandon Marshall there would be tons of people on this board hammering him.

This is true, but I think there's a good reason for it.   You can't compare him to Marshall, who is a legitimate number 1 and paid as a top WR.  I'm too lazy to look up, but I don't think Hartline is in the same league, salary wise.  Personally, it's hard for me to blame Hartline.  He's is 3rd down possession receiver put in as the number 1 guy.  His lack of production as a number 1 is a direct result of his ability and skills. 


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: Brian Fein on December 31, 2012, 02:26:13 pm
Regardless of his name, if Hartline were making $16million a year, and scored 1 TD, people would still be hammering him.  He's a $3million receiver, and plays as such.  For that, you get a solid #2 with great hands and 1000+ yards.

Besides, Tannehill only threw 12 TD's, 5 of which went to Fasano.


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: Jim Gray on December 31, 2012, 02:43:38 pm
I was going to say Daniel Thomas as well, but I think he's more of a disappointment vs. a shame.  He didn't play enough of a role to be a "shame".  So far, he has to be considered a bust.

I could go with Carpenter, who could have helped us to 2 more wins; but I think I'll take Jake Long.  He's paid a ton of money and he looked bad for much of the year.


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: masterfins on December 31, 2012, 04:45:36 pm
Regardless of his name, if Hartline were making $16million a year, and scored 1 TD, people would still be hammering him.  He's a $3million receiver, and plays as such.  For that, you get a solid #2 with great hands and 1000+ yards.

Besides, Tannehill only threw 12 TD's, 5 of which went to Fasano.

I'm not cutting Hartline any slack because he ONLY makes $1.5 million.  Hartline didn't get the job done as the #1 receiver on the team.

Did you ever think maybe the reason Tannehill only threw 12 TD's was because Hartline couldn't get open???

At best Hartline is a #3 receiver, and Bess fills that role much better, I hope Hartline does not return to the Dolphins next year.

You bring up another peeve of mine, Fasano gets knocked left and right on these boards, yet he led all receivers in TD's, but everyone loves Hartline.  I don't get it.


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: EKnight on December 31, 2012, 04:50:06 pm
Didn't Fasano lead the team last year too? -EK


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: Jim Gray on December 31, 2012, 06:23:09 pm
I'm not cutting Hartline any slack because he ONLY makes $1.5 million.  Hartline didn't get the job done as the #1 receiver on the team.

Did you ever think maybe the reason Tannehill only threw 12 TD's was because Hartline couldn't get open???

At best Hartline is a #3 receiver, and Bess fills that role much better, I hope Hartline does not return to the Dolphins next year.

You bring up another peeve of mine, Fasano gets knocked left and right on these boards, yet he led all receivers in TD's, but everyone loves Hartline.  I don't get it.

I'm not questioning your choice, and I agree Hartline shouldn't be number 2, let alone a 1.  I was attempting to explain why others may not be so critical of his sub-par performance as a number 1 receiver. 

I see it as a role he has by default, since we are so embarrassingly thin at the position.  Clearly the Dolphins don't see him as a true number 1, since they pay him at the bottom of the scale.  Personally, I would criticize the front office for their inability to find a better alternative at the position.   I do agree that it wouldn't be a huge loss if he doesn't come back, although I think he's a very good fit in a 4 WR set where you have some speed on the outside and the good route running of 2 possession guys like Bess and Hartline.


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: Spider-Dan on December 31, 2012, 07:16:53 pm
I considered Hartline; this was his opportunity to step up and prove he could be a star.  He couldn't do that, but he was still the leading receiver on the team, so I won't give it to him.

Two more on my list were Clay and Thomas.  Both are incredible disappointments; Thomas has had slightly better production, but was a higher pick (that we traded up to get).  However, both of those guys take a back seat to my pick for 2012:

Jake Long.

He was supposed to be the best player on the team; an elite left tackle that's a pillar of the franchise.  He has been, at best, mediocre.  Before this year, I could argue for Long over Matt Ryan with a straight face and a boldly jutting chin... now, that pick is a failure.


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: BigDaddyFin on January 02, 2013, 12:50:56 pm
Kevin Coyle.  The defense collapsed at some of the worst possible times this year. 

Torched by Sanchez for over 300 yards in an overtime loss.

Ran out of gas in the 4th quarter and allowed Arizona to tie the game and go into overtime.

Gave up a rookie record 430+ yards to Andrew Luck.

Couldn't get off the field against New England in the first game.

That's 4 losses right there that could have easily been wins with a simple stop or two.


Title: Re: Shame of the year - 2012 Season
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 12, 2013, 12:56:34 am
Egnew. Sounded vaguely promising on draft day, but has been a total bust right from the start. Can't believe he didn't get the message when Sherman said during hard knocks he'd cut him if he had the authority - zero stats and minimal game time for the rest of the year is nothing short of pathetic, can't say I'm too surprised to hear of the latest murmurs that he won't make the 2013 roster. Could be Ireland's worst ever pick, and that's saying something!