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Turns out he was a key patient in this clinic across the street from the University of Miami that provided PED's to many college and pro athletes.  Rumors are stirring that the Yankees don't want him back, ever.  Where do you guys think he goes from here?

I fully expect A-Rod to pop by your place sometime soon, so that he can go fishing on your boat.

One thing is for sure.  If the Yankees are able to void his contract, he will have a lot of time to do that, as well as a lot of other things

The Yankees have no chance of voiding his contract because the MLBPA is more powerful than the AFL-CIO. The amount is too great and it would set a precedent that would cause dozens of courtroom fights lasting years.

They should be able to void it because Steinbrenner is a moron.

As far as the man himself goes, I am convinced at least 65% of baseball is on steroids, so I am not going to cry about the sanctity of the game. If he gets caught, he should be suspended, but what's left? Even if by some miracle he breaks Bonds' HR record, what would it mean? Bonds isn't in the Hall of Fame and I don't think he ever will be, so these guys are already being punished for cheating by having their records discarded as meaningless.

Here's hoping he can't return from his injury, and the insurance company pays off his contract.  Then on to retirement.

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Even if insurance pays off his contract, it still counts against the payroll for luxury tax purposes.  That's the problem in baseball.  Contracts are 100% guaranteed.

^^^ Actually, having the contracts 100% guaranteed is what's right with baseball.  It's actually a true contract.  Having the contracts NOT guaranteed is what's wrong with football.  I'm sure the Yankees would happily pay the luxury tax if they could get of A-Rod's main contract.  Although I don't like the idea of contracts for injured players (that are out for the season, not just temporarily on the DL) going against their salary cap.

i don't think NFL contracts should be guaranteed.  your career can end on one play....so if a guy gets signed to an 5yr 50m contract and blows his knee out on his first play from scrimmage the team is fucked, and their salary cap next year is fucked too.

How is that any different than the NBA?

On the reverse angle, would you want a job that is very injury prone and zero compenation of you suffer a carear ending injury?  If I got hurt at work I would still collect workmans comp as would most people. 

yeah, workers comp doesn't pay you out your full salary for x amount of years.  workman's comp is a smaller percentage for a limited time

MLB has the most ridiculous contracts for the players and the NFL has the worst. The salaries should be reversed considering the amount of pain and length of career in the NFL.

It pays 67% for a max of 5 years.  Most sports contracts are shorter than 5 years. 

Apparently, Alex had the Doctor come over to his Mansion late at night to do the injections. One time, the Doctor couldn't find a vein and Alex kicked him out because he was bleeding so much.

What steroids are taken intravenously?

MLB officials are going to meet to decide what to do about the players who were patients at the clinic.  Not sure what's going to happen but it is unlikely that they will void anyone's contract. 

This looks similar to the BALCO scandal

Not in NYS, I know people who have received workers comp for life.  Not to mention, since you don't pay income taxes or social security taxes on workers comp, you actually can make just as much as your full salary.

Teams can take out insurance against this happening.  As for the salary cap issue, I'd be for setting rules in place if you lose a guy to a season ending, or career ending, injury that the remaining salary should not count against the cap.

Not entirely accurate. There are circumstances were portions of w/c would be taxable under IRS publication 525. Second, after 2007 New York became a "capped" state. "Permanent" disablility no longer means w/c payments for the life of the injury. NY is trying to fall in on the model that Texas uses, once MMI is established, the claim ends.

word on the street is that cano and another big star (i forget who it was) are going to be suspended for 50 games for juicing.

The Yankees should just forfeit their season now.

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I heard the same rumors (along with who the other "star" is), but I don't want to put it out there.  I actually don't think Cano is a juicer, but time will tell. 

I saw on the news yesterday that A-Rod's salary is $2 Mil more than the total salary of the Houston Astro's, and he probably won't even play half the season.

That's more of a disgrace to the Astros than the Yankees who handed out the worst contract in the history of sports. Houston is not small market, no reason to have the lowest payroll in the Majors with no hope of competing within the next 5 years.

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Looks like MLB is going to be handing out lengthy suspensions too the players involved.  A-Roid and Ryan Braun are the two biggest names here

If Ryan Braun is suspended because of this, how does it affect the way people look at him. He got out of his last suspension, but a lot of people did not believe he was innocent.

The local news this morning said that over 20 players would be suspended over 100 games a piece. That's a lot of missed baseball!

The ones who didn't believe he was innocent are entitled to a major "I told you so"

He wasn't innocent, it was just a chain of command error. The only way he could be called clean is if someone purposely tainted his urine with steroids. Pretty unlikely.

As much as I would like to see A-Rod suspended for 100 games, the evidence against all of these guys is really shady. I want to see them get caught, but it really boils down to handwritten evidence and testimony from the guy running the show who has his neck in a noose. No way the MLBPA will allow any suspensions to stand without some hard proof.

And why is his neck in a noose?  Because MLB is now taking action and the authorities may get involved. 

He couldn't afford the legal fees against MLB, so he asked A-Rod for money(or extorted, whatever your terminology), Alex said no so he struck a deal.

IMO, the evidence is enough to convict them in the court of public opinion. However, the MLBPA is really powerful and will fight to the end 100 game suspensions. Especially for players making so much money. I hope the players go down, but I am bracing myself for nothing to happen.