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Title: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Landshark on March 01, 2013, 12:13:21 pm
Defensive back Dunta Robinson, defensive end John Abraham and running back Michael Turner were released.

Should the Dolphins go after any of these guys?


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: MikeO on March 01, 2013, 01:29:39 pm
Robinson if his price tag isn't too high.

The other 2 I don't think Miami needs


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Sunstroke on March 01, 2013, 01:48:09 pm

Michael Turner is a glorified 2-yard pound-it RB at this point. 

Cue the fat lady, insert the forks...he's done.



Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: MikeO on March 01, 2013, 02:03:16 pm
Michael Turner is a glorified 2-yard pound-it RB at this point. 

Cue the fat lady, insert the forks...he's done.



His best days are behind him. I could Turner in GB.


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Sunstroke on March 01, 2013, 02:39:51 pm
I could (see) Turner in GB.

I could see Turner in Saskatchewan... Go Roughriders! ;)





Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: TonyB0D on March 01, 2013, 03:35:56 pm
Robinson is talented, but the other two are finished.


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Landshark on March 01, 2013, 03:52:16 pm
Robinson is talented, but the other two are finished.

I agree.  Sign Robertson and trade for Revis and the Dolphins corners are instantly upgraded


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Sunstroke on March 01, 2013, 04:09:00 pm

Trade valuable draft picks and THEN pay top corner salary for a guy coming off a torn ACL??  Good thing you're not a professor of business or something.

Trading for Revis would be great...if you're a Jets fan.



Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: el diablo on March 01, 2013, 05:48:31 pm
Let smith walk. Sign Robinson & Cary Williams. CB problem all but solved.


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Landshark on March 01, 2013, 09:51:43 pm
Trade valuable draft picks and THEN pay top corner salary for a guy coming off a torn ACL??  Good thing you're not a professor of business or something.

Trading for Revis would be great...if you're a Jets fan.



Revis has much less leverage in contract talks right now than he did a year ago and it is due to that torn ACL.  For the same reason, his trade value is much lower.   Just my opinion but I think he can be had for a second rounder.


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: MikeO on March 02, 2013, 02:32:52 am
Revis has much less leverage in contract talks right now than he did a year ago and it is due to that torn ACL.  For the same reason, his trade value is much lower.   Just my opinion but I think he can be had for a second rounder.

no way in hell you get Revis for a 2nd rounder. Going rate is a first rounder plus a 2nd or maybe another first rounder.


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: TonyB0D on March 02, 2013, 07:28:01 am
not trading/paying a guy who blew his knee out on a play WITHOUT CONTACT.  

even is he was healthy and was on the trading block, no way the jets would trade their "best" player to their biggest rival.


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Landshark on March 02, 2013, 07:29:51 am
no way in hell you get Revis for a 2nd rounder. Going rate is a first rounder plus a 2nd or maybe another first rounder.

No way a team will pay two first rounders for a guy who is coming off an ACL injury.  Especially if there is the risk that they only get him for one year.


not trading/paying a guy who blew his knee out on a play WITHOUT CONTACT.  

even is he was healthy and was on the trading block, no way the jets would trade their "best" player to their biggest rival.

You're right.  Generally you don't trade within your division.  But it has been done before. 


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: el diablo on March 02, 2013, 08:14:59 am
Exactly. Revis is more valuable to the jets than anywhere else. They priced themselves out of possible trade. Much like with Sanchez. The problem is, he sees himself as $16 mil material. The rest of the league doesn't. That's why I don't see a trade happening.


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: MikeO on March 02, 2013, 09:23:06 am
No way a team will pay two first rounders for a guy who is coming off an ACL injury.  Especially if there is the risk that they only get him for one year.
 

They aren't gonna give him away his value is 2 first rounders. They might take a 1st and a 2nd or a 1st and a 3rd but if you think you can get him for ONLY a 2nd round pick you are living in a fantasy world!!!!


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: el diablo on March 02, 2013, 11:08:58 am
Its not about what you want. Its about what you can get. Two years ago, they wouldn't give him away for less then a 1st rounder. This year when he's coming off an ACL injury and constantly upset with his contract. That's not exactly 1st rd material. Especially when the 1st rd is so much cheaper than 2 years ago. Its a younger league now.


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Sunstroke on March 02, 2013, 11:18:01 am
As long as it isn't San Francisco or Miami that's dealing for him, I don't care where Revis ends up...

They aren't gonna give him away his value is 2 first rounders.

As determined by who, exactly? Is there a chart somewhere that says "value for corner is X, reduce value by Y for ACL surgery, adjust by a factor of Z for reputation, and add 7% because the player once had the coach's wife give him a foot massage?

They might take a 1st and a 2nd or a 1st and a 3rd but if you think you can get him for ONLY a 2nd round pick you are living in a fantasy world!!!!

You seem so certain about what they want...You must be spending a lot of time hanging out with the Jets' front office.



Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: MikeO on March 02, 2013, 11:54:35 am
As long as it isn't San Francisco or Miami that's dealing for him, I don't care where Revis ends up...

As determined by who, exactly? Is there a chart somewhere that says "value for corner is X, reduce value by Y for ACL surgery, adjust by a factor of Z for reputation, and add 7% because the player once had the coach's wife give him a foot massage?

You seem so certain about what they want...You must be spending a lot of time hanging out with the Jets' front office.



Just listen to SIRIUS NFL Radio and what NFL people are saying


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Sunstroke on March 02, 2013, 12:46:10 pm

I gotcha... It's the unlinkable, unverifiable "I heard a reliable source" response.

I heard a guy on SIRIUS NFL Radio last season say that Matt Ryan was the NFL's best QB. I'll go ahead and file the secondhand unverified Revis valuation under the same "someone must be on drugs" heading.




Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Landshark on March 02, 2013, 01:07:28 pm
You seem so certain about what they want...You must be spending a lot of time hanging out with the Jets' front office.

If he is the one behind the Twitter account like EK says he is, then that would not be surprising


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: el diablo on March 02, 2013, 01:19:34 pm
Here's a guy on SiriusXM who explains why it would be difficult to trade Revis.

 http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/pat-kirwan/21791586/why-a-trade-for-darrelle-revis-will-be-difficult-to-pull-off


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Sunstroke on March 02, 2013, 03:05:39 pm
If he is the one behind the Twitter account like EK says he is, then that would not be surprising

Stick a cork in it, Tommy...everyone with an IQ larger than their shoe size knows you're behind that lame-ass FiremanEK shit.



Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Landshark on March 02, 2013, 04:28:26 pm
Stick a cork in it, Tommy...everyone with an IQ larger than their shoe size knows you're behind that lame-ass FiremanEK shit.



Who the fuck is Tommy??  My name is Lee, asswipe.  Maybe you should go Stroke your little package


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Sunstroke on March 02, 2013, 06:16:07 pm
Who the fuck is Tommy??  My name is Lee, asswipe. 

Careful, "Professor," you're slipping out of character...again.



Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: MikeO on March 02, 2013, 06:40:03 pm
I gotcha... It's the unlinkable, unverifiable "I heard a reliable source" response.

I heard a guy on SIRIUS NFL Radio last season say that Matt Ryan was the NFL's best QB. I'll go ahead and file the secondhand unverified Revis valuation under the same "someone must be on drugs" heading.


Ryan is going to get a "Flacco-like" deal they are now saying, so he might not be the best but he may soon be the "HIGHEST PAID QB IN THE NFL"


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Cathal on March 02, 2013, 07:04:40 pm
Who the fuck is Tommy??  My name is Lee, asswipe.  Maybe you should go Stroke your little package

I'd rather not get involved, but I've been seeing some coincidental posts between here and phifnever.com. TommyNoleFin posts stuff on the other forum which is usually a copy/paste from this forum. http://phinfever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8487 is just an example. (http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=21267.0 is the original thread) If that is you, then I'd say you are whoever Tommy is/was. I could be wrong but it is definitely someone from this forum.


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Guru-In-Vegas on March 02, 2013, 07:44:39 pm
^^^

I'm embarrassed over the internet for strangers.  wow.   :D :D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Landshark on March 02, 2013, 07:57:25 pm
I'd rather not get involved, but I've been seeing some coincidental posts between here and phifnever.com. TommyNoleFin posts stuff on the other forum which is usually a copy/paste from this forum. http://phinfever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8487 is just an example. (http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=21267.0 is the original thread) If that is you, then I'd say you are whoever Tommy is/was. I could be wrong but it is definitely someone from this forum.

Looks like he copied from me, Stroke, and Dave there.  From what I've read about Tommy, he did that a lot.  I hope he doesn't end up in my class and do something like that because that will get him a one way ticket out of school.


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Fau Teixeira on March 02, 2013, 10:03:41 pm
Looks like he copied from me, Stroke, and Dave there.  From what I've read about Tommy, he did that a lot.  I hope he doesn't end up in my class and do something like that because that will get him a one way ticket out of school.

Will he get his walking papers?


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Sunstroke on March 02, 2013, 10:26:07 pm

^^^ Very nice! ;)



Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: TonyB0D on March 03, 2013, 01:50:04 pm
(http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/pop%20corn/grand/jackson_popcorn_gif.gif)


Title: Re: Atlanta Falcons cap casualties
Post by: Spider-Dan on March 03, 2013, 04:41:25 pm
OK, I think we can safely say that the Falcons' cap casualties have been thoroughly covered.