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Title: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: SCFinfan on March 10, 2013, 01:40:53 am http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report-dolphins-lead-dog-mike-wallace-012124688--nfl.html
They say he prefers the warmer weather. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Sunstroke on March 10, 2013, 11:39:26 am Spend a good bit of time in Pittsburgh, and I'll bet South Beach looks pretty awesome... Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 10, 2013, 09:14:00 pm The only team I could see landing Wallace other than Miami are the Pats
The Browns have all but given up and said they are focusing on defense and want to raid the Ravens defense. The Vikings are now looking at Jennings and have said they might just look to add WR's in the draft and ignore it in free agency. I have a feeling that Miami threw such a huge number at Wallace's agent this weekend that other teams have waived the white flag on even trying to land him......other than the Pats of course! Of course after failing to land "the big one" in the past I won't believe Wallace to Miami until I see it ! Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Sunstroke on March 10, 2013, 10:50:27 pm I wish my 49ers could afford Wallace. With his speed to stretch the field, complementing Crabtree and Davis working the middle...we might have a passing attack to match our rushing game. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Brian Fein on March 11, 2013, 10:28:38 am ^^ You already have Ted Ginn, and his whole family.
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Brian Fein on March 11, 2013, 10:31:05 am Of course after failing to land "the big one" in the past I won't believe Wallace to Miami until I see it ! I generally agree with this, but...They wanted David Boston, they went out and got him They wanted Ricky Williams, they went and got him. They wanted Daunte Culpepper, they went and got him They wanted Brandon Marshall, they went and got him They wanted Peyton Manning, they whiffed on that one. Let's hope that Mike Wallace doesn't turn out to be in line with all those other guys they really wanted. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 11, 2013, 12:10:53 pm I generally agree with this, but... They wanted David Boston, they went out and got him They wanted Ricky Williams, they went and got him. They wanted Daunte Culpepper, they went and got him They wanted Brandon Marshall, they went and got him They wanted Peyton Manning, they whiffed on that one. Let's hope that Mike Wallace doesn't turn out to be in line with all those other guys they really wanted. 3 of those guys are a decade plus ago, not the same people in place (ie Ireland). Marshall was a trade, not a Free Agent signing. Peyton well they didn't whiff but whatever, different debate for a different day. Talking more of Harbaugh and Fisher they missed big on. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Spider-Dan on March 11, 2013, 12:15:37 pm Brian, every single one of the examples you cited of MIA "getting their man" was a trade.
When it comes to big name free agent acquisitions, the list pretty much starts and ends with Karlos Dansby. I guess you could count Joey Porter, but he was cut by PIT, which is not quite the same thing. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Brian Fein on March 11, 2013, 01:26:37 pm I know they were trades, so what? They are all offseason deals in which the Dolphins went out to get a guy who was on the market, and got him. But you have a good point - I forgot about Dansby.
I'd argue that its harder to pull off a trade than to sign a free agent. The deal has to work for both teams, and not just be the highest bidder, financially. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Landshark on March 11, 2013, 01:35:17 pm I know they were trades, so what? They are all offseason deals in which the Dolphins went out to get a guy who was on the market, and got him. But you have a good point - I forgot about Dansby. I'd argue that its harder to pull off a trade than to sign a free agent. The deal has to work for both teams, and not just be the highest bidder, financially. You might be right but the highest bidder doesn't always land the free agent signing. Look no further than Ryan Clark for example. The Dolphins offered him more money and he stayed in Pittsburgh. Back on topic. The Vikings just traded Percy Harvin to Seattle. Now the Dolphins may have competition for Wallace. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Brian Fein on March 11, 2013, 01:42:19 pm That's cause the Vikings are bringing in Greg Jennings.
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 11, 2013, 01:50:56 pm Harvin to Seattle. Minny opened up more cap space they are all in on Wallace now according to reports.
I will believe Wallace to Miami when I see it. The track record isn't on the Fins side here. This is far from a "done deal" Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Brian Fein on March 11, 2013, 01:52:59 pm Not a done deal, but Wallace reportedly wants warm weather, and Minnesota isn't exactly a tropical paradise.
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Spider-Dan on March 11, 2013, 02:01:37 pm I know they were trades, so what? They are all offseason deals in which the Dolphins went out to get a guy who was on the market, and got him. That's not really a fair comparison. Outside of possibly trading with other AFCE teams, "getting your man" via trade simply means you were willing to offer more than anyone else. In a trade, the other team has no real reason to care about anything but what you are giving them in exchange.In contrast, you can't just buy a player (in that same fashion) by simply offering them more money than the next guy. It's not like the Dolphins missed out on Ryan Clark or Peyton Manning because they wouldn't pony up enough cash... they missed out because those players didn't want to play for this organization. That's the point of this Wallace talk: can the Dolphins convince a free agent to come to Miami instead of going somewhere else? Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: bsfins on March 11, 2013, 02:07:00 pm I don't want Mike Wallace (I'm not a fan of any of the free agent Wr's)..I think he'll have some good games,but we'll regret signing him down the road...
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 11, 2013, 02:51:36 pm I don't want Mike Wallace (I'm not a fan of any of the free agent Wr's)..I think he'll have some good games,but we'll regret signing him down the road... so sign no FA WRs and go status quo into next year and have another year of a miserable offense? Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Diehard_Dolfan on March 11, 2013, 03:25:30 pm I'm not sold on Wallace as a "true" #1 receiver but, we need his speed! If we bring in a TE threat like Finley then Wallace becomes more dangerous. With a TE seam threat and Hartline running comeback and crossing routes... now things really open up!
I don't see Wallace running routes other than slants,streaks,and take offs... with his speed I guess that's all he needs to run... I would love to see Bush out the backfield with that but, doesn't look like that's gonna happen. :( Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Brian Fein on March 11, 2013, 04:13:21 pm To be frank, I'm not thrilled with Wallace, but I think he's the best available. I don't think we get Wallace and say "he's the center of the offense" - he's not that kind of player. I think Wallace is a weapon that fits in with the others we have and fills the need for a burner on the outside. If you use him to draw safety coverage, it opens up the middle for Bess or for whatever TE you have next season. Don't underestimate the respect defense has to pay to any guy with that kind of speed.
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Spider-Dan on March 11, 2013, 04:14:59 pm I still don't fully understand the speed thing. Not that long ago, MIA had one of the fastest players in the NFL at WR and it did jack all.
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 11, 2013, 04:21:06 pm Mike Wallace isn't Calvin, Fitz, or Andre.....but we ain't paying that kind of money either. Wallace isn't getting 8 years $113 with $20 mill guaranteed like Fitz. Or 8 years $132 like Calvin. Wallace isn't getting anywhere near that. He is getting 5 or 6 years at $60 or $70 mill.
He is a clear #1 WR in this league. Put him with Hartline and Bess and that is a more than capable WR corp win win and get into the playoffs in this league. There is no good argument against Miami signing him especially with all the cap space Miami has and the fact there are no other legit options out there to upgrade the WR's at this moment in time. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: bsfins on March 11, 2013, 04:23:01 pm Simple..We're not the Al Davis Raiders,and don''t want to be... :D
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 11, 2013, 09:26:12 pm Ben Volin with the latest. Vikings interested in Jennings. Fins looking to lock up both Wallace and Cook on Tuesday. (LaCanfora reporting Wallace will get around $12 mill per year)
Winston is the fall back option if they can't get Long signed Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: phinphan on March 12, 2013, 02:53:39 am Hey we signed Hartline and Moore for a grand total of four million against our cap this year. There is a lot of room left.............
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: phinphan on March 12, 2013, 02:59:15 am Hey spider dan why is that girl mad at obama I dont get it? Thou I still laugh when I see it. Sorry to break topic.
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 12, 2013, 06:34:55 am Vikings prepared to possibly offer Wallace $13 mill a year. Miami might back out according to reports
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Landshark on March 12, 2013, 08:36:36 am Vikings prepared to possibly offer Wallace $13 mill a year. Miami might back out according to reports The Palm Beach Post is reporting from "someone it trusts" that Mike Wallace to the Dolphins is a "done deal." Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Brian Fein on March 12, 2013, 09:43:06 am The Palm Beach Post is reporting from "someone it trusts" that Mike Wallace to the Dolphins is a "done deal." I'll believe that when the Dolphins announce it at 5 PMTitle: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Landshark on March 12, 2013, 11:18:39 am I'll believe that when the Dolphins announce it at 5 PM To be honest, so will I. This same publication reported last year that Peyton Manning to the Dolphins was a "done deal" Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 12, 2013, 04:24:44 pm Wallace taking his Physical in Miami right now. Should sign tonight
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: bsfins on March 12, 2013, 04:30:38 pm reached agreement...30 million guaranteed according to Jeff Darlington
(Said on NFLwork) My last bad statement on Mike Wallace...Wrong guy IMO,If we're talking about Wannstedt,or Sparano as coach..run the ball,play good defense With Ricky Williams,ronnie Brown,big power back running the ball.......Yep,would be a great signing...With the Philbin,I just think it's a bad move... :-\ Ok said My piece... Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Brian Fein on March 12, 2013, 04:31:26 pm This is exciting....
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 12, 2013, 04:32:51 pm 5 years $65 mill....$30 mill guaranteed
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Sunstroke on March 12, 2013, 04:34:28 pm Expensive...hope he ends up being worth it. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 12, 2013, 04:37:42 pm Expensive...hope he ends up being worth it. We suck and have no offense now. If we are wrong on Wallace we will continue sucking. At least we are TRYING to do something different and win. Got no problem with it. If it fails its fails, I'm willing to take that risk! Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: el diablo on March 12, 2013, 04:44:35 pm WoooHoooo!
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Phishfan on March 12, 2013, 04:46:00 pm I'm glad this happened. Wallace was the premier free agent this offseason.
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Brian Fein on March 12, 2013, 05:10:16 pm You have to address the need at WR. You went out and got the BEST FA WR on the market.
If he DOESN'T address WR, how do people view Ireland next season? Now you are going to complain that he is doing everything he can (short of trading away the entire draft for Calvin Johnson) to improve the biggest area of need. It wouldn't surprise me to see another FA WR land in Miami, or a few prospects to hit camp this summer. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Cathal on March 12, 2013, 05:10:48 pm Wow.
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on March 12, 2013, 05:15:49 pm I for one am very happy with the Wallace signing.
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 12, 2013, 05:17:30 pm Contract signing at 6pm!!
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 12, 2013, 05:30:43 pm Wallace Cap hit is $6 mill this year. Fins with $25 mill to play with currently
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Landshark on March 12, 2013, 05:31:50 pm Dear Ryan Clark,
At this time last year, you had the nerve to flap your gums to the media and state that no one wants to join the Dolphins. Not only was that statement inaccurate, but the man who proved you wrong happened to be one of your own teammates. I only have one question for you. How does that foot taste? Sincerely, Captain Landshark Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: el diablo on March 12, 2013, 05:35:20 pm I am about to eat some serious crow. Does anybody have any Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ sauce?
I'm just so stoked right now. Wow! Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 12, 2013, 07:32:40 pm Per Adam Schefter: Dolphins coaching staff wanted Jennings, Front office wanted Wallace
Guess we know who won out! Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: bsfins on March 12, 2013, 07:35:54 pm ^^^^That makes me feel like I'm only Effin crazy,not full blown Bat-shit Crazy (wipes Brow) :D
reached agreement...30 million guaranteed according to Jeff Darlington (Said on NFLwork) My last bad statement on Mike Wallace...Wrong guy IMO,If we're talking about Wannstedt,or Sparano as coach..run the ball,play good defense With Ricky Williams,ronnie Brown,big power back running the ball.......Yep,would be a great signing...With the Philbin,I just think it's a bad move... :-\ Ok said My piece... Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: SCFinfan on March 12, 2013, 08:24:54 pm Per Adam Schefter: Dolphins coaching staff wanted Jennings, Front office wanted Wallace Guess we know who won out! Dislike. The last time this happened, we got Daunte Culpepper instead of Drew Brees. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 12, 2013, 08:27:32 pm Dislike. The last time this happened, we got Daunte Culpepper instead of Drew Brees. INCORRECT! That was doctors call, nobody elses Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: SCFinfan on March 12, 2013, 08:30:52 pm INCORRECT! That was doctors call, nobody elses Oh shit, cool Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: SCFinfan on March 12, 2013, 08:31:22 pm Also, cool video of Mr. Wallace's highlights throughout the years:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSOlJCoZmTI Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Spider-Dan on March 12, 2013, 10:33:55 pm INCORRECT! That was doctors call, nobody elses The only person saying this is Saban, who needs it to be true in order not to look like a jackass who is clueless at the NFL level.Saban WAS the front office AND the coach. Do you think Huizenga jumped in and overruled his golden boy on the QB call? That's too absurd to even consider. Culpepper over Brees was Saban's call; no more, no less. No pencil-pusher in a lab coat would have overruled him if he wanted to take the FA with a rebuilt shoulder instead of trade for the guy with a rebuilt knee. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 13, 2013, 05:43:03 pm Wallace said since he can't wear 17 or 13 he will wear #11
As long as its not #19 I'm good! lol Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Landshark on March 13, 2013, 06:05:24 pm Wallace said since he can't wear 17 or 13 he will wear #11 As long as its not #19 I'm good! lol He could wear 13 if Marino gives permission. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Brian Fein on March 13, 2013, 06:06:33 pm ^^ I think Dolphins fans would revolt. The number is retired.
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Landshark on March 13, 2013, 06:09:14 pm ^^ I think Dolphins fans would revolt. The number is retired. They might. You're right about that. And in all likelihood, we won't see Wallace wearing 13. Just saying retired numbers can be brought back with the player's permission. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: el diablo on March 13, 2013, 07:21:28 pm Wallace said since he can't wear 17 or 13 he will wear #11 As long as its not #19 I'm good! lol So much for the traditional hope of 87. Why are these kids so against the 80 series these days? Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Spider-Dan on March 13, 2013, 07:36:16 pm Your dad wore a number in the 80s.
Teens are 21st century. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: el diablo on March 13, 2013, 07:40:49 pm My bad, kind sir. For the record. :D My dad's playing days would've been in the 70's.
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Spider-Dan on March 13, 2013, 09:00:36 pm I don't mean your dad wore a number in the 1970s; I mean, your dad wore a number in the 80-range.
i.e. a number in the 80-89 range is for geezers, 10-19 is what up and coming new ballers wear. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: el diablo on March 13, 2013, 09:24:51 pm I gotcha. Just trying to be funny. Ha ha....oh well.
I've just been wondering about the numbers for awhile. It just seems weird to me. Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: Thundergod on March 13, 2013, 11:38:29 pm So much for the traditional hope of 87. Why are these kids so against the 80 series these days? That's one of my biggest NFL pet peeves. God I can't stand receivers with "teen" numbers. Thanks Keyshawn. :D Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: bsfins on March 14, 2013, 12:21:50 pm Modified to add...There was some mis-information(mathematical error),that Ben has fixed,updated with the right stuff....
The full article from the Palmbeachpost.. http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2013/03/14/contract-breakdown-miami-dolphins-go-all-in-on-wr-mike-wallace/ (http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2013/03/14/contract-breakdown-miami-dolphins-go-all-in-on-wr-mike-wallace/) Snippet..(read the whole article for all the little tidbits) Quote Signing bonus: $11 million Workout bonuses: $50,000 each for all five years Guarantee: $27 million up front, could be as much as $30 million 2013 base salary: $1 million (fully guaranteed) 2014 base salary: $15 million (fully guaranteed) 2015 base salary: $9.85 million ($3 million guaranteed for injury; $3m becomes fully guaranteed if Wallace is on the Dolphins’ roster for the fifth day of the 2014 league year) 2016 base salary: $11.45 million (not guaranteed) 2017 base salary: $11.45 million (not guaranteed) 2013 salary cap number: $3.25 million 2014 salary cap number: $17.25 million 2015 salary cap number: $12.1 million (if on the team) 2016 salary cap number: $13.7 million 2017 salary cap number: $13.7 million Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 14, 2013, 04:54:24 pm It's essentially a 3 year deal. Can't be upset with that signing after seeing those numbers. 3 years at around $35-$37 mill it looks like to me.
Title: Re: Dolphins reportedly "lead dog" to sign Mike Wallace Post by: MikeO on March 28, 2013, 06:26:47 pm Mike Wallace's father today said that the Vikings offered his son more money than the Dolphins did but that his son wanted to play for Miami
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