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Title: OTA's Thread Post by: Landshark on May 21, 2013, 08:00:00 am Reshad Jones skipped out. Let's hope this doesn't carry over into training camp
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2013/05/reshad-jones-not-at-ota-session-today.html Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: Landshark on May 21, 2013, 08:15:07 am Update. Looks like he's changed his mind. If Ireland were smart, he would get a deal done now.
Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: Brian Fein on May 21, 2013, 09:48:30 am Get a deal done? he's under contract...
Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: MikeO on May 21, 2013, 10:19:50 am OTA's start today. He missed nothing yesterday.
Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: Landshark on May 21, 2013, 11:15:45 am Get a deal done? he's under contract... He's in the final year of his deal. He outplayed that deal last year and nearly made the Pro Bowl. A smart GM would lock him up into a long term deal now. If he has another big year, its gonna cost even more money to keep him off the free agent market Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: Pappy13 on May 21, 2013, 03:27:48 pm He's in the final year of his deal. He outplayed that deal last year and nearly made the Pro Bowl. A smart GM would lock him up into a long term deal now. If he has another big year, its gonna cost even more money to keep him off the free agent market Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: Spider-Dan on May 21, 2013, 07:10:46 pm Better to sign him to a "solid contributor" deal now and cut him if he doesn't produce, than to have him play well again and be forced to sign him to a "star" contract or watch him walk.
MIA doesn't exactly have a lot of depth at the position. Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: Landshark on May 21, 2013, 08:06:25 pm Better to sign him to a "solid contributor" deal now and cut him if he doesn't produce, than to have him play well again and be forced to sign him to a "star" contract or watch him walk. MIA doesn't exactly have a lot of depth at the position. Exactly my point. Teams like New England, Green Bay and Pittsburgh do this on a regular basis. This is good cap management Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: Pappy13 on May 21, 2013, 08:06:56 pm Better to sign him to a "solid contributor" deal And I'm sure that's what Miami would like to do. I'm not sure that he wants a "solid contributor" deal though. I think he would like to have a pro-bowl type of multi-year guaranteed contract. That's why these things usually take a lot longer than we fans would like. I think they'll eventually get a contract done this year, but it will be later rather than sooner because of this reason.Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: Landshark on May 21, 2013, 10:10:06 pm And I'm sure that's what Miami would like to do. I'm not sure that he wants a "solid contributor" deal though. I think he would like to have a pro-bowl type of multi-year guaranteed contract. That's why these things usually take a lot longer than we fans would like. I think they'll eventually get a contract done this year, but it will be later rather than sooner because of this reason. I wouldn't pay a "pro bowl type of multi-year guaranteed contract" to a guy who has never made a pro bowl. Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: Pappy13 on May 21, 2013, 10:45:04 pm I wouldn't pay a "pro bowl type of multi-year guaranteed contract" to a guy who has never made a pro bowl. Of course not, but you yourself said that he played at a near pro-bowl level last year. I'm sure in his mind, it's only a matter of time before he's a regular to the pro-bowl. Athletes don't tend to be really objective about their skills especially when they have a agent in their ear telling them how good they are and how underpaid they are. This is my point exactly, that there's usually a wide gap between what the team thinks they are worth and what the player and the agent think they are worth and that's why you don't see a whole lot of teams rushing to sign players before their current contract expires unless they are bona fide superstars.Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: Spider-Dan on May 22, 2013, 09:11:02 pm It's all well and good to try to squeeze every last dime out of the rookie contract, but unless Ireland has Jones' replacement in the wings, it's too risky to let him hit free agency. He should either sign him to a longer contract or start training up his replacement.
That is, unless Ireland really believes that this is a Super Bowl run. The abundance of recent 1-year contract signings may indicate just that. Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: MikeO on May 24, 2013, 06:12:36 pm Not that it means anything in late May but Michael Egnew was 1st team Tight End in many packages this week ahead of Keller. I mean Keller will still be the starter at the end of the day but Philbin said Egnew has earned the spot with the time and work he has put in this offseason.
If Egnew can contribute at all in any way its only a bonus at this point. For a guy who was publicy written off as a lost cause by some of his own teammates last year. Not reading anything into it but maybe a light-bulb went off in Egnew's head where he can at least be a viable #2 or #3 TE on this team and see the field in some packages Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: Landshark on May 24, 2013, 10:06:25 pm Not that it means anything in late May but Michael Egnew was 1st team Tight End in many packages this week ahead of Keller. I mean Keller will still be the starter at the end of the day but Philbin said Egnew has earned the spot with the time and work he has put in this offseason. If Egnew can contribute at all in any way its only a bonus at this point. For a guy who was publicy written off as a lost cause by some of his own teammates last year. Not reading anything into it but maybe a light-bulb went off in Egnew's head where he can at least be a viable #2 or #3 TE on this team and see the field in some packages If I recall correctly, at the start of OTA's in 2009, Shawn Murphy had "earned" the starting guard spot. We all know where he ended up after training camp. Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: MikeO on May 24, 2013, 10:10:11 pm If I recall correctly, at the start of OTA's in 2009, Shawn Murphy had "earned" the starting guard spot. We all know where he ended up after training camp. But that head coach was a moron and that team was void of talent. Philbin doesn't have that issue and doens't play those games Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: MikeO on May 28, 2013, 05:47:51 pm The Dolphins sign WR Courtney Gardner
This guy has a lot of off the field issues, I am a little surprised the Fins took a chance on him. Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: MikeO on May 29, 2013, 11:42:09 am Chad Pennington is at Fins OTA today helping out.
New assistant coach maybe? Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: phinphan on May 29, 2013, 01:23:11 pm That would not surprise me from what I understand he is smart and wants to move into coaching.
Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: Sunstroke on May 29, 2013, 03:21:24 pm I'd love to see Pennington get his coaching start with Miami. Like phinphan, everything I've heard about Pennington leads me to believe he is an extremely intelligent person, and he's always impressed me as someone who was a good leader. Give him an "assistant to the assistant" type of position to start, and see if he can use his football knowledge to benefit the organization. Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: MikeO on May 29, 2013, 03:39:57 pm I guess after last year and his stint helping Mark Sanchez in the offseason he gave up on that and figures he is a lost cause...lol
Assistant to the Assistant (aka Coaching Intern) would be Pennington's role. Like what Al Harris was doing last year in Miami Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: phinphan on May 30, 2013, 06:24:53 am I am 99.9 percent sure witch means I don't know.But he was brought in to mentor Heene and move into a coaching spot. But he had that break out season best in his career. I forgave him for being a jet.I am all for giving this guy a job .But if my memory is right he was going to coach for us back then he just had that great year and I don't blame him for trying to play after what he did for us.It's a shame he got hurt.Coach Pennington Hmmmm works for me.Oh and I mean a real position not assistant to an assistant. And like I said he was already hired for that. Tony said he would move into a QB coach position when he handed the reins over.If I remember correctly.
Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: MikeO on May 30, 2013, 06:40:19 am Pennington was just a 1 day thing I guess. Special invite by Philbin
Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: phinphan on May 30, 2013, 06:56:10 am That sucks
Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: phinphan on May 30, 2013, 06:57:21 am But that could have been a job interview.
Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: MikeO on May 30, 2013, 07:28:59 am But that could have been a job interview. It wasn't according to Philbin. He killed all speculation about this. Said look for other retired players to be visiting in the future as well to share their knowledge with the current team Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: phinphan on May 30, 2013, 07:37:03 am Sprano was the one making him a coach And I am not taking anything away from Pennington I think he may have what it takes to coach I don't know? It sucks when there is no foot ball.
Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: Sunstroke on May 30, 2013, 01:48:25 pm That's too bad that it was only a one day dilly-o. Hopefully Tannehill sponged up everything Penny could give him and uses it to ratchet up his game savvy a notch or two. Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: Fau Teixeira on May 30, 2013, 01:53:24 pm That's too bad that it was only a one day dilly-o. Hopefully Tannehill sponged up everything Penny could give him and uses it to ratchet up his game savvy a notch or two. hopefully pennington didn't dislocate his shoulder while talking to tannehill Title: Re: OTA's Thread Post by: MikeO on May 30, 2013, 06:07:29 pm Dolphins sign G Brian Thomas, Waive OT Patrick Ward
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