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This has gotten out of control.  We won't help because the new regime isn't in our best interest. Interesting to see if we respond to this.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/21/article-2398691-1B656D9C000005DC-873_964x347.jpg)

Daily Mail said they are posting pics just to raise awareness to what is actually going on.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2398691/Syria-Nerve-gas-attack-near-Damascus-kills-1-300-including-women-children.html

--Activists claim 1,300 killed in government rocket strike on residential area
--If true, it would represent the worst known use of chemical weapons since  Saddam Hussein gassed thousands of Kurds in the town of Halabja in 1988
--Chemical warheads hit suburbs of Ain Tarma, Zamalka and Jobar
--They hit just before dawn as families lay sleeping
--A UN team is in Syria to probe chemical weapons use by President Assad
--Many countries have called for an immediate investigation
--French Foreign Minister has called the attack an 'unprecedented atrocity'
--William Hague said hopes attack will 'wake up some' who support Assad
--Claims come as refugees flood into Iraqi Kurdistan

This stuff is totally awful.  There's a delicate balance between taking care of your own and being the world police.

I'd say this should be handled by the United Nations, like Bosnia.

Hasn't the U.S. been the world's police for decades now? 

And none of this matters to Putin or Russia. They will keep supporting Assad to the bitter end. The rebel forces have been hampered by infighting now because fundamentalist terrorist cells are trying to get into power.
It is a uber shit sandwich, and we need to stay out of it. It will be messy, and their is no clear side to back.

"The cost of conscience, the burden of the soul
to care so much, with so little control..."

Until the world puts aside it's national agendas and unites against this sort of human treatment, there will always be brutal men slaughtering the innocent. I doubt I'll see any such thing before I die, but it's a pleasant hope.

Personally, I feel like this is one we should keep our noses out of.  I agree that it is terrible and awful and needs to be stopped, but the US can't go around invading every country like war mongers just because they do shitty things.  Agreed that the UN needs to be the one that takes actions.

The problem is, if the UN steps in guess who will send the majority of the troops.

Of course, but at least it won't be the USA vs Syria.  It will be the USA and 10-15 others vs Syria.

The latest reports put it closer to 1,700.

The UN needs to develop some type of corporate takeover for countries that are deemed mentally incompetent.

Many countries around the world would say we are mentally incompetent.
Be careful for what you wish for.

Normally, I would agree with you...in this case, not so much.
We're talking about gas.   And I am no scientist nor do I have any military experience, but...gas gets into the air...air circulates and is capable of carrying said gas elsewhere.  Drop enough of it and we're talking gas dropped in one place affecting surrounding areas  that are keeping their noses out of what is happening next door.

Just a thought, but I think this is potentially more catastrophic than we think.

 

I heard a great line while flipping channels last night. Neither side in this fight really deserves our support as they are both terrible groups of people. One commentator said, "Our enemies are killing our enemies." I have come to the conclusion there is no way we should put boots on the ground.

I agree....no boots on the ground but I could get behind some limited intervention by bombing their air fields/planes on the ground and certain military installations. As well as maybe a no fly zone with the UN involved. There is no way we can put massive amounts of US military lives on the line going full boar in there. They would face fire from both sides.

If we go in as a small part of a larger UN operation (e.g. US is less than 30% of the boots on the ground), I am okay with that even if we are the largest single force in the operation.

I am not okay with us going in solo or close to solo like we did in Iraq.   

I don't see boots on the ground here... not in a combat role anyway. It might be possible to support the rebels with a Libya-style air campaign, but as several have pointed out already, it's not clear that having the rebels win would be good.

The most likely scenario, IMHO, is some sort of targeted "punishment" using cruise missiles or even drones.

Perhaps there might be a way to coerce Assad to give up the remaining chemical weapons to inspectors, although such a move would likely be precluded by missile strikes.

We need to mind our own business for once. We have our own problems to deal with. Not to mention that we're basically bankrupt.