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The Browns are clearly trying to "tank" games and go 0-16 and get that 1st overall draft pick. To trade the #3 overall pick in the draft from just 2 years ago to the Colts for a 1st rounder (probably a late first rounder) that is insane.

I think it has more to do with his off the field issues, than anything. Then again, Hoyer is starting this week.

what issues? I haven't heard of any

Weeden is hurt.

Browns already declaring the 2012 draft a failure?

It's "TANK FOR TEDDY" time in Cleveland!!!

Nevermind. There was an incident involving two women outside of his home last December. Just read that back in May that he wasn't going to be prosecuted.

I heard about that one too when it happened. But it seemed like nothing major

The Colts just got another weapon to add to their offensive juggernaut.  This is going to open things up even more for Andrew Luck. 

Colts screwed my fantasy team, but I'm glad this happened AFTER we played them.

I actually think that this might make sense for the Browns.  They aren't going to win anything anyway (even with Richardson), but you just can't be wasting 1st round picks on an RB.

^^ that's the problem, the fans are pissed that they "gave up" only 2 weeks into the season.

Of course, the Browns' front office says they haven't given up...

If you are a shit team, a good RB doesn't make a lick of difference.  Good RBs only turn you from good to elite.  It's such a short life span at that position, that it doesn't make sense to pursue it unless you are close.

I don't blame Cleveland at all, and agree...you never spend a first rounder on a RB unless the RB is truly special, ala Adrian, or Marshall Faulk, that kind of talent...or if you are one very good RB away from winning a Super Bowl and don't have any other glaring needs.

The timing of the deal would make me consider that maybe the Cleveland front office believed that if other teams got a more extended look at T-Rich this season, his trade value would diminish, so they got a 1st rounder for him while they could.

Cleveland spent a 1st rounder, yes.  But they got back a first rounder, too, after using an RB for 2 years.  An RB's lifespan is sometimes only 5-6 years anyway.

"2 years" is misleading; he played 15 of 16 games last year and was traded before week 3 this year.  That's a lot closer to 1 year than it is to 2.

On a happier (at least personally) trade note... With Alex Smith and the Chiefs improving to 3-0 tonight, it means that KC only needs 5 more wins to turn our conditional second draft pick into another 2nd rounder. If I'm not mistaken (and I may be, I'm going off the top of my head here), I believe that would give the 49ers a 1st, 2x 2nd, 2x 3rd and 2x 5th rounders. More young blue chip beef!

Trent = Ronnie Brown.  I don't see a ton there, honestly.  I've never been wowed by this guy.

I feel like Trent is a guy with good talent and big play potential that was stuck on a garbage team.  I am interested to see how he does when they can't stack the line against him because Luck >>>>>>>>>>>>> Weeden and the Colts actually have a receiver or two to be afraid of.

When the Browns drafted him Jim Brown did say Trent was just an average running back.

Not sure I agree but you aren't alone in your opinion

I agree, but I believe that 7 thousands yards of offense and 40 TD's for a career ain't too shabby for a RB, especially in today's NFL. If Richardson can produce that over his career he'll have done well.

Not too shabby, but not elite by any means.  I've pulled his stat page from NFL.com and I gotta tell ya, it doesn't validate his worthiness for being the number two overall pick. 

http://www.nfl.com/player/ronniebrown/2506341/careerstats

Much like when the Red Sox blew up the house last year and ate shit for it, the Browns will benefit from this in the long haul. Management didn't believe in what old management did (and why would they with their Win/Loss record), so they pulled the trigger. Trent didn't exactly light it up last year. Sure, he had 950 yards, but he only average 3.6 YPC. That is below the league average.

The only thing impressive about him is where he was drafted. Sure, he may turn out to have a great season in Indy, but that will probably have more to do with trading in Wheeden for Luck than his own skill.

Ronnie Brown introduced a new offensive strategy to the NFL.  Not many running backs have that kind of impact.

Report out 4 teams called this week the Browns about trading for Joe Thomas the LT....Browns turned down all trade offers for him. They are keeping him

Another Report out that WR Josh Gordon could be traded soon. He is 1 strike away from a 1 year suspension and the front office isn't in love with his attitude. If a team came with the right trade offer he could be shipped away before the deadline

Trent Richardson with 2 rushing yards yesterday. Had only 20 the week before. Has only had more than 60 yards once this year. He stinks. One of the worst trades ever. Give the Brownies credit they stole a first round pick!

They've stockpiled picks recently.  The trouble is, they didn't pick the right players with them

Problem is that Ahmad Bradshaw and Donald Brown have had more success running behind the exact same line.  I can't believe what a bum Richardson has become.

Well they built up a damn good defense through the draft and FA. They have nobody on offense other than Gordon and Joe Thomas.

If the season ended today, they would have their first round pick fall somewhere between 12-15. With the crop of QBs coming out in this year's class, they could actually get a player who could help.

Experts have learned the reason for Richardson's seeming inability to perform on the field:

"We know ... someone is shopping explicit footage showing the former 1st round NFL Draft pick engaged in an orgy with at least 3 women."

http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2013/11/12/trent-richardson-sex-tape-indianapolis-colts

-EK

^^^ I'm going to assume that is a joke. Not the tape itself, but that it has any effect on his ability to play football.

Yes it's a joke. -EK

Yeah, because if that sort of thing adversely affected game performance, Wilt Chamberlain would have been the worst basketball player ever.

To quote the angel Balthazar, from the show Supernatural... "This morning, I had a menage...um, what's the French word for twelve?"

Lol you say that now, but you'd be surprised how many meatheads at my gym believe they have to abstain before powerlifting meet or just before workouts because the decrease in test somehow affect performance. -EK

People who spend all their time lifting weights are never the people I go to for lifestyle advice...

ha ha ha

What happened to the Colts? They fell apart overnight. They are awful now. Another blowout loss today!!

Since losing Reggie Wayne they have hit the skids big-time. That team is a mess

How can that surprise you? With Wayne on the field, Indy averaged twice as many yards per play, even if he didn't catch the ball, and Luck's QB rating was like 50 points higher. ESPN actually ran a story on this very topic when the injury was announced. It's not a surprise. -EK

It's a surprise the whole team collapsed. Wayne didn't play defense!!!  And piss poor offenses like the Rams and Arizona now are scoring 30+ points on them week in and week out. Wayne gets hurt and the whole team quit trying?

Cowherd predicted they wouldn't win 3 more games after the injury, so yes. Manning didn't play defense for them either but the same thing happened when he was hurt. -EK

Who cares what Cowherd predicted?  Comparing losing a WR to a hall of fame QB is silly.

Why? Neither play defense. Wasn't that your point? -EK

And now Trent has been benched by Indy
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/01/colts-bench-trent-richardson/

A 1st round pick for a back-up RB.

Give Cleveland credit for dealing a dime for a dollar...

It will be remembered as one of the great trades in NFL History. And if the Browns can package that pick with their other first round pick to move up and get a franchise QB for years to come that turns around that organization it will be talked about forever!

It Cleveland can hit on that pick they got or package it to get a superstar,  it will be up there with Brock for Broglio as an all time worst trade in the history of sports

Paging MikeO, you've got a call from Herschel Walker on line one...

I said..."one of the"....I didn't say the greatest

This is all on the Colts GM. What did he think was going to happen? Trent's numbers were crap when he was in Cleveland, why would they rebound in Indy?

I think its on the Colts owner as well who seems to be a ticking time-bomb and way out of control. He is always tweeting about trades and such. I wonder if the GM made that trade or if it was Irsay

Amazed at how far his play has fallen off. I was totally and completely wrong about this. Would like to blame some of it on the Wayne injury and other teams being able to stack the box, but he stunk when Wayne was healthy, and Brown does not seem to be having the probs that Richardson is having. The guy was a beast coming out of college. Wtf happened? -EK

It's a miracle!!!  EK admitted he was wrong about something!! 

Cue Handel's Messiah

If Trent Richardson were anymore useless, the New York Knicks would trade for him.

HA HA HA!!! He's beyond terrible. He is being outplayed by Donald Brown each week. Let that sink in a little.