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I was really angry at the officiating this weekend.  Miami got rooked and the yesterday the Falcons had two awful OPI calls at critical moments

That's not the AFCE, that's the NFL. Pass interference is probably the least consistently called infraction in the NFL and yes that includes Offensive Holding which seems to have actually gotten much more consistent lately.

They should have a rule where Pass interference on plays that will advance the ball over 30 yards should be review-able. I mean you can't review every pass interference, it will slow down the game. But if it is going to move the ball over 30 yards a coach should have a right to challenge it. That's such a big chunk of yardage that if its a BS call a coach should be able to fight it if he feels he is in the right and is getting a bad PI call.

Judgement calls are never reviewable.

I know. ..and they should change that

I'd likely say they may have been two of the worst calls all weekend and they happened on the same drive. It was terrible.

Or they could adopt the college rule. 15 yds and a 1st down. Then again, this is The Offense Only NFL.

The Ravens got 55 yards for free on that drive.  How does that not directly impact a game's outcome?  No team can overcome that kind of damage in such a close game.

You could probably just throw bombs every play and you'd get a PI 1 out of 4 times and advance the ball that way.  Occasionally your guy might actually beat someone and make a legit catch.

Actually I think they ought to change the rule to a 15 yard penalty unless it's determined that it was intentional like if you grab the guy while he's running by you or something. That wouldn't fix it completely, but I think that would help. Too many ticky tack pass interference calls that result in 30 yard gains while sometimes guys are mugged and no call. And offensive pass interference should result in a 10 yard penalty and a loss of down. Take back some of the edge that the offensive guy has and give it back to the DB to give him a fighting chance and I think you'd see a better overall game.

I'm glad I'm not the only one pissed about this.  Those 3 PI calls (the 3 that gave the stalling Ravens 55 yards and a TD and the non-call where Wallace got raked across both arms) really cost us the game.  I feel that we outplayed the Ravens and should've been up 2 scores with the ball, where they'd been able to do nothing offensively.

I feel like it changed the whole game and took the wind out of our sails.

Strangely, in our 3 wins, we got outplayed.  In this loss, we outplayed our opponent.  I guess it all evens out.

I think there's something to be said about this. It's noteworthy, too that since the in the 2 losses, Miami has been outscored 37-17 in the second half. In the 3 wins? They outscored their opponents 41-16. If you set yourself up to win, the awful calls are far less impactful. If you give up a ton of points and let your opponent win, they become a topic of discussion. -EK

^^^What happens when those calls directly lead to the score being what it is though? It is circular logic.

Very circular logic

They led to exactly 7 points. What about the other ones? What about the lack of scoring Miami has had in the second half? If you set yourself up to win by scoring as much in the second half of your games as you do in the first half, there is no substantial discussion of "bad calls."

Were ALL of the points scored by the opposition because of bad calls? Likewise, did the refs in some manner make the Dolphins offense become anemic in the second half of the two losses? -EK

I do not remember any discussion of bad calls after the New Orleans loss. We flat out got owned in that game and that is where the bulk of you misguided scoring imbalance comes from.

The discussion is about bad calls in one particular game that led to Miami being outscored in that one game.

You are taking stats from a game not even in the discussion and twisting it to try and make it sound like our bad call discussion doesn't matter because Miami has been terrible in second halves.

100% agree! He is cherry picking stats...par for the course.

What bad calls do in general not just talking about Balt-Miami but in any game where you get a very bad call (and this can't be seen on a stat sheet as black/white, especially if you didn't see the game) is it also changes field position, stops momentum of the team in control, and gives a dead team life. Which is what those 2 bad PI calls did in that game. Baltimore's offense was totally dead in that game at the point it got those 2 PI calls. Now they get a cheap TD and the team comes back to life and has a pep in its step it didn't have for the past quarter and a half.

So I guess you just skipped the part of my post where I pointed out how badly Miami outscored their opponents in the three wins.

Fine. Let me try to rephrase the point- if you take care of business against Baltimore in the second half like you did against Cleveland, Atlanta, and Indy, the PI call is moot. It's absurd to blame a loss on a single play or call. That's why I think blaming a kicker for losing a game is garbage. Put yourself in a position to win, and the refs won't matter. They did that for three games and won- with 2 of them being great comeback victories. They didn't do that against Baltimore, so the reason they lost isn't because of the OLine, the defense (remember- the D could have held Baltimore to a FG instead of a TD on that drive, but they didn't), the play calling or the running game, but because of the refs?

Someone answer this then- What did the refs have to do with Miami NOT being able to score in the second half of this game like they did in the first half or the second half of the games they won? -EK

^^^ And I guess your trollness skipped the part where no one said it was the single cause for a loss. We simply said they were pathetic and at critical times. Take it elsewhere man. I'm not getting looped into strawman discussions.

Single cause, part of the cause, all of the cause, none of the cause. None of that washes. The refs had nothing to do with Miami not being able to score in the second half proficiently, which is why I guess you didn't address the question in my last post. -EK

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No personal attacks please.  Thanks the mods.

It's absolutely part of the discussion insofar as I don't agree that you can pin the loss on the refs. Just because you disagree with that doesn't mean it's not part of the discussion.

I felt- and posted if memory serves- the same way after the end of the GB-Seattle game last year. It has nothing to do with Miami. It's how I feel about blaming a loss externally instead of internally. -EK