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I said this at this time last year and will say it again.  Despite it being a passing league, defense STILL wins championships.  Denver's defense was maligned all season but they stifled Phillip Rivers and Co last week abd today, they shut down Tom Brady until it was garbage time.  Seattle has one of the most stifling defenses in the league.  They were responsible for causing three turnovers by Kaepernick in the second half today.

Again, defense wins championships.  Denver's and Seattle's defenses both stepped up and made plays when it counted,, which is why their teams are still playing at this point in the season.

That being said, I see Seattle's defense shutting Manning down. 

Seahawks win the Super Bowl

If you think Denver is in the Super Bowl because of their defense and not 100% because of Peyton Manning then you have a head injury like many of those former NFL players

The defense won it for Denver today

HA...you really believe that. And even if it is true (which its not).....that doesn't mean there Defense is the reason they are going to the Super Bowl! If they win the whole thing its not because "defense wins championships".....its because they got one of the very best QB's to ever play in the league and he threw 55 friggin TD's this year!

You are a funny man

Peyton gets ring #2.

Denver 40  Seattle 20

Defense does win championships. Seattle pulls off a "stunner".

Seattle: 23
Denver: 17

#1 offense vs #1 defense.  Let's see who comes out on top.

I'm sticking with my earlier prediction of [AFC team] over Seattle, which means I'm taking Denver.

Denver in a low scoring game.

31-17 Denver.

That's low scoring for Peyton, right?

For the "DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS PEOPLE"

2012- SF #3 ranked defense. Ravens ranked #16.....RAVENS won

2011- Pats ranked #31 in defense. Giants ranked #27 (somebody with a shit defense had to win)  **Not to mention in the AFC Championship game and NFC Championship game the Ravens lost to Pats and the 49ers lost to Giants. Ravens #3 rated defense and 49ers were 4th rated defense that year. Defense wins championships though?

2010- Steelers with the #2 rated defense....Lost to GB!


Yeah, defense wins championships  ::)

I like Denver to beat Seattle in a low scoring game.

(if its bad weather though on Super Bowl Sunday  I have the right to change this pick before kickoff)

Considering no QB, who led the league in passing has won a Super Bowl in the same season. I'll take my chances.

I usually cheer for the NFC team in the Super Bowl, but I just can't do it this year. It is my sincere hope that the classless piece of shit known as Richard Sherman never wins a ring. Taking it a step further, I would shed no tears at all if he was run over by a metro bus or contracted a painful STD that caused his nuts and dreadlocks to both fall off.

That had to be a low blow for 9ers fans.

Short of the std and the bus I agree. What a dumb arse. Hoping Manning hits him up for 5 TDs to teach just a bit of humility.

Sherman was a complete douche last night no doubt. I picked Denver to win the whole thing back in August and I am sticking with them now.

Denver - 35
Seattle - 20

I picked San Fran to win it but they couldn't overcome the Seattle home field advantage. That won't be a problem for Denver at brother Eli's house. In fact, Seattle is just happy to be there.  Thinking this could turn into a stinker.

Denver 41
Seattle 16

Seahawks

Denver  31

Seattle  30


*** Score subject to change depending on what numbers I get in my primary football pool this Sunday.

I was 2-0 in the Championship round, bringing me to 8-2 for the playoffs.

And I take Denver.

I predict that since this game is between two teams in states that decriminalized MJ, satellite photos of the regions are going to be clouded out during the game.

I too am 8-2 and taking Denver.  Want to post a score to break a tie?

I posted a score earlier, but I was joking.  I'm really thinking

Denver 28
Sea 17

Anyone with a better or same record as Dave and I?

Challenge accepted:  30-17, Denver

Ah you Price is Righted me!

Is Joe Namath plastered already?  He is wearing a pansy looking coat and he botched the coin toss

Holy shit!!!  What a bizzare first play!!!!

I'm conflicted part of my wants Denver to win, see the celebrations here and what not, the other part wants to see everyone crying at work tomorrow.

Looking bad for Denver early, still there may be a scripted fantastical comeback brewing.

Seattle has dominated defensively thus far

Man Peyton is playing like shit. First sustained drive led by him ends with a pick six. 

Could be a blow-out, but like I  said a rigged miraculous comeback may be in the works.

Turnover on downs.  Can things get any worse for the Broncos?

John Fox not kicking a FG is one of the worst coaching decisions in Super Bowl history! It's the 1st half, take the points and get on the scoreboard

WTF did Denver do for 2 weeks? They look totally unprepared and lost out there. Not like Seattle is playing great they are just letting Denver shot themselves in the foot

^ agreed.

Kick the damn FG...

Denver didn't even show up! Just an awful performance

Seahawks open the second half with a kick return for a touchdown.

Well, if this keeps up at least that disgrace Denver_Bronco won't show his face here for a while.

All the TROLLS go into hiding when their teams lose. See them next September when they come out of their caves

Denver down 29-0...plus side of the 50 yard line on 3rd and 10 they run, then they punt. Why are you paying Peyton Manning big bucks??? It's the friggin Super Bowl! Let him throw it twice!

John Fox has been awful tonight. Downright awful

John Fox  has Always BEEN AWFUL, he is only there because he has a loaded offense, and BTW if Denver fails to win a SB with Manning on the roster it will have been all for nothing this is an 8-8 team AT BEST AT BEST, with out him.

A catch and fumble by Demariyus Thomas. Glad to see MikeO in on this so I got something to say to him.  DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS

Explain the last few years then. YOU CAN'T!!  Where the better ranked defense all lost! Tonight is the exception not the rule.

2012- SF #3 ranked defense. Ravens ranked #16.....RAVENS won

2011- Pats ranked #31 in defense. Giants ranked #27 (somebody with a shit defense had to win)  **Not to mention in the AFC Championship game and NFC Championship game the Ravens lost to Pats and the 49ers lost to Giants. Ravens #3 rated defense and 49ers were 4th rated defense that year. Defense wins championships though?

2010- Steelers with the #2 rated defense....Lost to GB!

Blow-out, if there is a comeback, you all know its fixed.

Denver just scored. The 71 Dolphins get fucked again

Seattle answered with a touchdown of their own after Denver's sorry excuse for an onside kick.  It's safe to say this one is in the books. 

Yep, my co-workers will look  dazed and glassy eyed tomorrow.

I never saw this coming at all. 

Can't wait to read the NFL quarterbacks on facebook thread tomorrow

Enough said.

Thank god this game is over.....it was terrible!

Malcolm Smith is the MVP.  First time since 2002 when local legend Dexter Jackson got it that a defensiveplayer was named Super Bowl MVP

I definitely underestimated SEA and they were the better team.  They moved the ball on DEN at will nearly all game.

However, DEN's complete implosion turned what should have been a good game into a laugher.  DEN wouldn't have beaten OAK playing like that.  That game looked like Seattle vs. Colorado State.  The inexplicable safety, the dumb INTs, the repeated fumbles... I felt like I was watching a NE game from the early aughts, when their opponents would do everything in their power to hand the game to them.

Congrats to Seattle for playing a TEAM game. Enjoyed every minute of it.

I think San Fran 'may' have done the same thing to Den since their style of D is similar to Sea. In the end, 'Defense wins championships' holds true again.

But really.. WTF?!?!  Was this necessary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6oiy11-eWc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

You hear that MikeO??

whats your point? You found 1 person to agree with you and you ignore the facts and reality of the past few years results where teams with the lower ranked defense and sometimes the worst defenses in the league won Super Bowls. Those results don't count only yesterday's does? Wake up!

How come SF with the #3 overall defense didn't win the SB last year? Defense wins championships? The year Pitt had the #2 ranked defense in the league how did they lose to GB in the SB? Defense wins championships? How did the Giants/Pats even MAKE the SB, one defense ranked 31 the other 27th. Defense wins championships? Or in that year how did they beat the 49ers and Ravens in the conference championship games...both had Top 5 defenses...defense couldn't get them to a super bowl...but defense wins championships.....except when it doesn't and facts blow up that statement! Give me a break.

I believe it to be more of a statement of the better defensive team IN the Superbowl. Not necessarily the overall league.  Looking at the level of play in the playoffs, a lot of times D steps it up even more than the stats show from the reg season.

Currently the stats show the 10 year avg number of teams in the playoffs with a top D is 7.5. Of those teams that advance, the 10 year avg is 5.11. (source = NFL)

They do state that 2011 was the first time this avg was completely missed (in the 10 yr range mentioned) but since all stats have outliers, I'd say that the 'almost strike' season is partially to blame. Even though, in the end, the Giants D played extremely well in the playoffs and beat the 'prolific' NE offense after defeating GB in GB and ATL in ATL, both good offenses.

Last year i believe Baltimore had a top 10 D and San Fran was just outside the top 10. And this year, D again.

Not getting involved, just mentioning NFL stats...

I think that the point of "Defense Wins Championships" isn't even what people think it means.

It's this:
Offense can win games, but over the course of a season, you're likely to run into bad matchups or have an off-day or what have you.  Defense is a more consistent team can take you further, on the average.  I don't even know if it's true, but that's the claim.

You can't look at any one game. 

But even this game wasn't specifically about defense.  Of course, Seattle's defense played well, but their special teams killed it and they controlled both lines of scrimmage.  It really was a team victory from top to bottom for Seattle.  And they just caught Denver having an off-day on top of it.

That game was such a turd.

Baltimore D last year was ranked 16th overall. SF was 3rd. Your stats are wrong

Teams with mediocre to bad defenses are in the playoffs and winning super bowls every year of late (except this year). When teams with a Top 5 or so defense win a bunch of super bowls in a row, year after year......then you can say "DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS".....until that happens it is a 100% false statement in today's NFL.

Seattle won this year...ok. Before then name the great defensive team that won a Super Bowl being carried week in and week out by their defense. You gotta go back a while. Like 6 years and the Steelers of 2008.  2009 Saints #1 offense, 20th ranked defense in the league won it all. 2010 Steelers #1 ranked defense LOSES Super Bowl to the better offensive team in GB. 2011 two teams ranked 31st and 27th in defense MAKE the Super Bowl, someone with a shit defense had to win. 2012 SF #3 ranked defense loses to Baltimore with the #16 ranked defense. Aside from Seattle name the great "defensive team" that won a super bowl in recent years? Like I said, the trend has turned.  Maybe Seattle is starting a new trend. These things usually go back and forth. BUT, today, in the year 2014 and in recent past years teams go further and win more super bowls in this league with an elite offense not an elite defense.

Pull stats all you want.  Regular season doesn't mean squat once the playoffs roll around.  Baltimore had a reputation for being a defensive team and it was their defense that shut down Tom Brady in the AFC Title game last year, then shut down Kaepernick in the Super Bowl until the power went out. 

The Giants had a reputation for being a defensive team.  We all saw what they did in 2011.

If you want to mess with stats, here are some for you.  Five times in Super Bowl history, the top offense and the top defense have clashed.  In four of those times, the defensive team won.

^ What does reputation have to do with anything?  That is such a weak argument.

Giants defense was awful in 2011 I don't care what their "reputation" is. Bill Belichick has had a reputation of a great defensive coach yet he hasn't fielded a great defensive team in many years. And your little super bowl history stat is worthless unless you tell me what years those games were played. Because as we all know in the 70's and 80's the sport was very different. Rules weren't tilted so heavily towards the offense as they are now.

Watching it now on NFL network replay.  I still can't believe how horrible the entire Broncos team played