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Title: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 24, 2014, 02:19:02 pm Going forward a team can't charge fans for playoff teams until they actually clinch a home playoff game.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/24/nfl-bars-teams-from-charging-for-playoff-tickets-before-playoffs-are-clinched/ Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: Brian Fein on March 24, 2014, 03:30:15 pm I am glad to hear this. I hated the "we'll put your money towards next year's tickets" thing. What if I don't want to renew?
Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on March 24, 2014, 06:41:37 pm That is great news. Nothing pissed me off more than having to shell out money for tickets we may not even see only to have them hold the money for 8 months if we did not make the playoffs or get a home game and apply it to next year!!!!!!
Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: MikeO on March 25, 2014, 03:00:21 pm They also banned players "dunking" the football over the goalposts after touchdowns.
Which I am all for. Always thought it was silly and stupid. Thankfully the competition committee agreed Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: Brian Fein on March 25, 2014, 03:03:22 pm ^^ I don't see the harm in that. Why was that even a topic of discussion?
Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: MikeO on March 25, 2014, 03:24:06 pm ^^ I don't see the harm in that. Why was that even a topic of discussion? because Jimmy Graham destroyed a goal post doing it and it delayed the game while maintenance crews had to come out and fix everything. Because ya know that's what the paying fans came to see, a bunch of guys fix a goalpost while players drink water on the sideline. I mean its just unnecessary. If you want do a silly dance or act like a fool once you score a TD go for it, but don't do damage to anything that can actually stop the game. Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: Dave Gray on March 25, 2014, 03:27:38 pm ^ I agree.
Goal posts aren't for hanging on. Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: Brian Fein on March 25, 2014, 03:41:23 pm Whatever, Tony Gonzalez has been dunking on goalposts for 10 years and it hasn't been a problem. But one goalpost breaks and the No Fun League takes action. Maybe make better goalposts that are less susceptible to breaking, or fasten them better...
They don't seem to have a problem letting people sit around for 10 minutes waiting for TV commercials to end. And that's 20 times per game. I'm sure that's just as entertaining for the fans as watching them fix a goalpost. So don't tell me crap about fans having to wait 10 minutes. Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: MikeO on March 25, 2014, 03:45:34 pm Whatever, Tony Gonzalez has been dunking on goalposts for 10 years and it hasn't been a problem. But one goalpost breaks and the No Fun League takes action. Maybe make better goalposts that are less susceptible to breaking, or fasten them better... Tony Gonzalez never broke one...that's the difference. He did a one handed dunk and it was over with. Jimmy Graham was acting like a fool doing two handed dunks hanging on the thing till it friggin broke!! Causes its all about him. It's the "ME ME ME" league and draw attention to me. He took it too far. Now this is what ya get. I got no problem with it. I'm sure Jimmy Graham can celebrate his touchdown in another fashion without doing damage to a goalpost. TV commercials are part of the deal. You know going in buying a ticket that will take place and its part of the game. Broken goalposts cause a 270 pound man wants to use it as a jungle gym isn't necessary. Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: Brian Fein on March 26, 2014, 09:59:31 am So, first the discussion was about fans waiting around while they fix goalposts, but now they made a rule for one single guy who did one thing once that caused a problem.
I just don't see this as a top priority topic in the NFL. Up there with bullying and player safety? Not really. Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: CF DolFan on March 26, 2014, 10:03:31 am I would have been easier to give the player a one game fine for damaging the field of play and causing a disruption in play than punishing others who are enjoying the game and not causing trouble. I hate throwing the baby out with the bathwater solutions.
Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: Cathal on March 26, 2014, 10:29:25 am This may be a bad example but didn't they stop NBA players from hanging on the rim for too long because Shaq decided to break the backboard?
Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: MikeO on March 26, 2014, 10:40:25 am This may be a bad example but didn't they stop NBA players from hanging on the rim for too long because Shaq decided to break the backboard? Yep. They can't stop these games cause some millionaire wants to show-boat. That's what Jimmy Graham is doing...show-boating and it ended up delaying a game for no reason.Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: MikeO on March 26, 2014, 10:41:35 am So, first the discussion was about fans waiting around while they fix goalposts, but now they made a rule for one single guy who did one thing once that caused a problem. I just don't see this as a top priority topic in the NFL. Up there with bullying and player safety? Not really. Jesus Christ Brian they can walk and chew gum at the same time. You can take care of big issues like player safety and such and also take care of little issues all in the same offseason. Just because you do one doesn't mean you ignore the other ::) Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: Brian Fein on March 26, 2014, 10:45:03 am Obviously. I'm not an idiot.
You clearly have some hatred for Jimmy Graham which drives your opinion, but this is not a required part of the game that needed to be addressed. Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on March 26, 2014, 10:52:49 am I would have been easier to give the player a one game fine for damaging the field of play and causing a disruption in play than punishing others who are enjoying the game and not causing trouble. I hate throwing the baby out with the bathwater solutions. Bingo.....what a waste of time creating rules for such trivial and meaningless shit. Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 26, 2014, 11:17:17 am So, first the discussion was about fans waiting around while they fix goalposts, but now they made a rule for one single guy who did one thing once that caused a problem. I just don't see this as a top priority topic in the NFL. Up there with bullying and player safety? Not really. I don't see it as a top priority, but I don't see any reason not to pass the rule. The positive impact of the rule is minimal, but the negative impact is zero. Resulting in a net (all be it tiny) positive benefit. Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: Brian Fein on March 26, 2014, 11:21:30 am The negative impact is the perception of the "No Fun League"
People love TD celebrations. This is just one type. Can't use the ball. Can't celebrate in groups. Can't dunk on goal posts. Heaven forbid we should hurt the other guys' feelings. Just think its overkill, to have so many "celebration" related rules in place. That's the negative impact. Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: MikeO on March 26, 2014, 11:30:32 am Obviously. I'm not an idiot. You clearly have some hatred for Jimmy Graham which drives your opinion, but this is not a required part of the game that needed to be addressed. I have NO hatred for Graham. He is the BEST TE in the game today. I hope the Saints can't work out a long-term deal with him and Miami signs him next offseason. But the "show-boating" I hate....from ALL PLAYERS! And this will blow your lid too Brian. They are going to crack down on "taunting" too it came out this morning http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/26/nfl-wants-to-crack-down-on-on-field-taunting/ Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: Phishfan on March 26, 2014, 11:37:55 am For all you guys who think this took away precious time from anything else, you are mistaken. I would lay a wager more time has been spent debating this rule on this site than it took for it to be proposed and passed by the NFL. Also, considering this "top priority" is also taking things a bit too far.
Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: Spider-Dan on March 26, 2014, 11:55:35 am It was fine until Jimmy Graham ruined it. Since they can't make a rule that says Jimmy Graham may not dunk on the goalposts, what should they do? Make it a penalty, but only if the goalpost is bent far enough?
The players have no legitimate reason to be touching the crossbar. At all. Ever. The fact that a single game was delayed because of that is enough reason to stop it. I fully support a ban on touching the crossbar, and if this is the way they enact it, so be it. Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: Brian Fein on March 26, 2014, 01:10:34 pm And this will blow your lid too Brian. They are going to crack down on "taunting" too it came out this morning http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/26/nfl-wants-to-crack-down-on-on-field-taunting/ Gee, whiz, thanks for the link. Read all the comments, seems like most of them agree with me. I especially like this one: Quote In another five years if things continue in this direction, offensive linemen will be handing each other a flower after every play. Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: masterfins on March 26, 2014, 03:16:19 pm This may be a bad example but didn't they stop NBA players from hanging on the rim for too long because Shaq decided to break the backboard? Or Darryl Dawkins Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: masterfins on March 26, 2014, 03:21:37 pm Somehow I think the owners were more interested in one of their top players getting hurt dunking the ball, which would cost them money if a top player can't play. sprained ankle, injured fingers, wrist, etc. They don't want their top WR or TE missing playing time, it's always about the money.
Title: Re: I am shocked - Owners adopt a fan friendly measure Post by: MikeO on May 20, 2014, 11:57:04 am NFL Network reporting at the NFL owners meetings this morning they talked about "expanded playoffs" and adding teams. They didn't take a vote to make it happen for this upcoming season. They decide it won't happen this year. But it looks like it is coming soon and probably in 2015.
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