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Title: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: RichThrawn on April 13, 2014, 06:50:12 pm More trouble in the Bay Area. Aldon Smith mentioned the word "bomb" at LAX. Now he's been taken into custody.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/13/aldon-smith-reportedly-detained-at-lax/ Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: Phishfan on April 14, 2014, 04:30:00 pm I split this as it felt like it needed it's own thread. What a stupid thing to do. I'm not sure if this guy was making a joke or being an ass since he was pulled aside by the TSA but either way, everyone knows they are not going to play around.
Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: MikeO on April 15, 2014, 09:36:58 pm http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/15/report-49ers-very-unlikely-to-pick-up-option-on-aldon-smith/
Looks like Aldon Smith has possibly played his last game for SF Tim Kawakami of the San Jose Mercury News reports that the team is “very unlikely” to extend the deal. Kawakami also believes that Smith “probably” won’t play for the 49ers in 2014. The mechanism for Smith’s unavailability is unclear. He could be suspended by the league under multiple policies and/or he could be placed on the non-football injury/illness list by the team if he has had a relapse of his alcohol issues. Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: RichThrawn on April 16, 2014, 10:58:45 am The saddest thing in life is wasted talent.
Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: Brian Fein on April 16, 2014, 11:17:36 am This story is unclear to me...
Was it ever released what he actually said? Or they just arrested him for saying "bomb" in an airport? Seems like there has to be more to this story... Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: MikeO on April 16, 2014, 11:24:10 am This story is unclear to me... Was it ever released what he actually said? Or they just arrested him for saying "bomb" in an airport? Seems like there has to be more to this story... He was pulled aside by TSA for a random security check which is common place. He was making a stink about it and was "belligerent and uncooperative" according to reports. Then as he was walking away he said he was in possession of a bomb. That's when he got arrested. Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: Brian Fein on April 16, 2014, 01:38:04 pm OK, so all it takes is a simple "let's look though his bag" and let him go. Why is this such a huge story? It probably happens to regular people 5 times per day across the country.
Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: MikeO on April 16, 2014, 02:01:00 pm OK, so all it takes is a simple "let's look though his bag" and let him go. Why is this such a huge story? It probably happens to regular people 5 times per day across the country. A False Bomb Threat at an airport is a real serious crime. Not something you "just let him go" for. In Massachusetts this charge gets you up to a $50,000 fine and possibly up to 20 years in prison. In NY it's considered an "E Felony" which in NY is no less than 1 year in prison and no more than 18 months. I don't know the California law for this crime but I am sure it is very serious and falls somewhere in-between NY and Mass as most states do. In a post 9/11 world I seriously doubt this happens on a regular basis as well up to 5 times a day at airports. It doesn't matter that he didn't have a bomb its' that the "threat" that he did have one through his words and the possible chaos he could have created through his words is the crime. Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on April 16, 2014, 02:33:45 pm A False Bomb Threat at an airport is a real serious crime. Not something you "just let him go" for. In Massachusetts this charge gets you up to a $50,000 fine and possibly up to 20 years in prison. In NY it's considered an "E Felony" which in NY is no less than 1 year in prison and no more than 18 months. I don't know the California law for this crime but I am sure it is very serious and falls somewhere in-between NY and Mass as most states do. State law is irrelevant. Bomb threats at airports are covered under federal law not state law. And in order for a bomb threat to be a felony in New York it needs to be directed against a school. Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: Brian Fein on April 16, 2014, 02:38:38 pm A bomb threat is much different than a passing comment like "jeez, you'd think I have a bomb in my bag"
That's hardly a threat. A threat is when you place an unaccompanied suitcase in the terminal and then call someone and say "I HAVE PLANTED A BOMB" Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on April 16, 2014, 02:58:24 pm A bomb threat is much different than a passing comment like "jeez, you'd think I have a bomb in my bag" That's hardly a threat. A threat is when you place an unaccompanied suitcase in the terminal and then call someone and say "I HAVE PLANTED A BOMB" This is true. And because of that it is unlikely that he will actually be prosecuted and the limit of his legal issue will be arrested, miss his flight and not get a refund for the ticket, and the case be dismissed in 6 months if he doesn't do it again. Generally bad jokes cause you to miss your flight and spend anywhere from 30 mins to 24 hours detained with no prosecution. Still a dumb thing to do. Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: RichThrawn on April 16, 2014, 03:14:49 pm This is true. And because of that it is unlikely that he will actually be prosecuted and the limit of his legal issue will be arrested, miss his flight and not get a refund for the ticket, and the case be dismissed in 6 months if he doesn't do it again. Generally bad jokes cause you to miss your flight and spend anywhere from 30 mins to 24 hours detained with no prosecution. Still a dumb thing to do. But seeing as he has had multiple run ins with the law and an alcohol problem, the 49ers may just cut ties with him. Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: Dave Gray on April 16, 2014, 03:41:31 pm The bigger story here is that this is not normal, adjusted adult behavior. People get stopped in airports and checked for security. They don't make big stinks about it getting themselves detained and they certainly don't make flippant comments about bombs when in this situation. It's the behavior of a troublemaker/moron that has a history of idiocy.
Character matters with these players and unless you are just the best player on the field, you better have it or nobody will want you in the locker room. Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: Phishfan on April 16, 2014, 04:19:20 pm A bomb threat is much different than a passing comment like "jeez, you'd think I have a bomb in my bag" That's hardly a threat. Which is not what he said from reports. He said, to paraphrase, I have a bomb. Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: bsmooth on April 16, 2014, 04:28:40 pm Saying "I have a bomb" in an airport is the same as saying "Fire" in a crowded theater. You are doing it to cause a problem and it can create a panic. It is not something to be joked about or taken lightly.
Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: Brian Fein on April 16, 2014, 04:33:10 pm A bomb threat is much different than a passing comment like "jeez, you'd think I have a bomb in my bag" That's hardly a threat. Which is exactly what I said... Who's to say which portion of the statement the TSA officer heard, if it was made with his back turned or as he was leaving security. "Its not like I have a bomb in my bag..." C'mon. Even the dumbest of dumb-dumbs doesn't walk up to a TSA officer and say "I have a bomb." That's precisely my point - there HAS to be more to the story, Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: Phishfan on April 16, 2014, 05:05:02 pm So does it "happen to regular people five times a day" or does not even the "dumbest of dumb-dumbs" do it? You can't argue both sides.
Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: MikeO on April 16, 2014, 07:58:45 pm Saying "I have a bomb" in an airport is the same as saying "Fire" in a crowded theater. You are doing it to cause a problem and it can create a panic. It is not something to be joked about or taken lightly. Yep. And that's the point. That isn't something you "joke" about. If he said it loud enough he could have caused panic and a stampede where people were hurt or godforbid killed. Can't joke about having a bomb at an airport. Which is exactly what I said... Who's to say which portion of the statement the TSA officer heard, if it was made with his back turned or as he was leaving security. How do you know what he said you weren't there! And stop defending this guy he is a first class jerk. Since 2012 he has had 1 DUI arrest. A 2nd DUI/Drug arrest in which he caused a car accident. He was stabbed at a party which nobody believes his side of the story on how it happened, either way he was stabbed. Charged with 3 felony counts of illegal possession of an assault weapon...and now a bomb threat at an airport. That's just since 2012!! He is the dumbest of dumb and has a track record of proof to back it up. The guy is a joker, he doesn't deserve to play in the NFL and hopefully this last incident got him his ticket out of SF and hopefully the league. He is a first class jerk on every level."Its not like I have a bomb in my bag..." C'mon. Even the dumbest of dumb-dumbs doesn't walk up to a TSA officer and say "I have a bomb." That's precisely my point - there HAS to be more to the story, Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: Brian Fein on April 17, 2014, 09:52:51 am I'm not defending him, I couldn't care less about Aldon Smith.
It seems that I'm the only one that questions the media anymore, and the rest of you just accept what has been spoon-fed to you by (generally) biased reporters with an agenda. Sometimes when you dig deeper, there is more to the story. This one just doesn't pass the common sense test to me. Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: MikeO on April 17, 2014, 10:33:38 am I'm not defending him, I couldn't care less about Aldon Smith. It seems that I'm the only one that questions the media anymore, and the rest of you just accept what has been spoon-fed to you by (generally) biased reporters with an agenda. Sometimes when you dig deeper, there is more to the story. This one just doesn't pass the common sense test to me. The media didn't "create" this. They weren't at the airport giving Aldon Smith a hard time trying to stir something up and push his buttons. Aldon Smith created this mess by acting like a jackass and saying he had a bomb at an airport which is a crime he was rightfully arrested for! If Smith doesn't do that there is nothing to report. Your anti-media rant here doesn't make sense. You come off as a jock-sniffer defending Aldon Smith who thinks he is above the law and who mind you has a long list of arrests within the past 2 years. Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: Brian Fein on April 17, 2014, 10:43:54 am There are 2 sides to every story. Who has reported the "other side"?
I don't give a flying rat's ass about Aldon Smith. I just refuse to believe anyone would walk up to a TSA agent and say "I have a bomb" - even jokingly. Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: MikeO on April 17, 2014, 10:53:54 am There are 2 sides to every story. Who has reported the "other side"? I don't give a flying rat's ass about Aldon Smith. I just refuse to believe anyone would walk up to a TSA agent and say "I have a bomb" - even jokingly. You can refuse to believe it but you are wrong and look foolish in doing so. He didn't just walk up to an agent, he was randomly pulled aside for a security check like many Americans are these days at the airport. It's just part of flying, we all have to deal with it. He didn't like it, he became "belligerent and uncooperative" with the TSA agent and started talking about having a bomb. He isn't even denying this! Why you want to defend him and think there is another side is beyond me. There is no other side to report! All you need to know is after this happened and SF 49ers people talked to people involved and police....they are now saying he probably won't play for them this upcoming year. Even they have accepted what happened at the airport and know he is guilty of this crime and are sick of him at this point and are moving on. But you keep defending him and wait for that other side of the story to come out one day. I wouldn't hold your breath Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: Phishfan on April 17, 2014, 11:10:19 am State law is irrelevant. Bomb threats at airports are covered under federal law not state law. I'm pretty sure I saw in one article that he was not charged with a federal crime, but could have been. Here it is: Smith was booked for investigation of making a false bomb threat. FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller said anyone who makes a bomb threat at an airport is potentially subject to federal charges, although no such charges have been filed against Smith. http://nypost.com/2014/04/14/49ers-linebacker-arrested-for-yelling-bomb-at-airport-police/ Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: Phishfan on April 17, 2014, 11:29:56 am I don't give a flying rat's ass about Aldon Smith. I just refuse to believe anyone would walk up to a TSA agent and say "I have a bomb" - even jokingly. 1) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/02/zeljko-causevic-arrested-jacksonville_n_4029333.html 2) http://www.wcnc.com/news/crime/Charlotte-man-arrested-for-bomb-threat-at-CT-airport-218433251.html 3,4,&5 in one article) http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/03/18/3-allegedly-made-bomb-threats-at-airports/UPI-74161363608564/ Granted, this guy did not make a threat while at the airport but he was a former TSA agent that called one in http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Inglewood-Man-Arrested-After-Threats-to-LAX-223252271.html I can find more if I look more. I have no idea why you would doubt the stupidity of people. Examples are everywhere and just because Smith is famous, he is not excluded from stupidity. Title: Re: Aldon Smith arrested again Post by: bsmooth on April 17, 2014, 09:29:53 pm I'm not defending him, I couldn't care less about Aldon Smith. It seems that I'm the only one that questions the media anymore, and the rest of you just accept what has been spoon-fed to you by (generally) biased reporters with an agenda. Sometimes when you dig deeper, there is more to the story. This one just doesn't pass the common sense test to me. Common sense? Why do you assume you are the only one capable of reading the news and seeing the biases? No one from Aldon's camp has come out to try and explain why he said what he did. That is telling. He has shut up about this whole incident. If he thought he was being unfairly portrayed, he would say something. |