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Title: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: RichThrawn on May 08, 2014, 08:38:24 pm Shocker. Jags needed WR help and drafted Blake Bottles. Buffalo then trades up and drafts Sammy Watkins. Cleveland now has the ninth overall pick plus Buffalo's first and second in 2015
Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: MikeO on May 08, 2014, 08:49:59 pm Great move by the Bills. Team will be sold in a few months, new owner will clean house after the year and fire everyone as most new owners do. So trade away 2015 picks as odds are it will be someone elses problems and not Marrone's and the GM's. Only chance for Marrone and crew to save job is to win big this year, so go all in on Watkins and try.
Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: RichThrawn on May 08, 2014, 09:06:38 pm And now Cleveland trades their 5th rounder this year to leapfrog Minnesota and pick 8. They grab Justin Gilbert out of Okie State which results in a lot of boos from fans who wanted Johnny Manziel. Strange chess game Cleveland is playing. I hope there is a goal in mind.
Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: MikeO on May 08, 2014, 09:07:56 pm And now Cleveland trades their 5th rounder this year to leapfrog Minnesota and pick 8. They grab Justin Gilbert out of Okie State which results in a lot of boos from fans who wanted Johnny Manziel. Strange chess game Cleveland is playing. I hope there is a goal in mind. Browns had too many draft picks. Couldn't use them all. Giving up a 5th to lock up the guy they wanted all along is no big deal Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: RichThrawn on May 08, 2014, 09:20:31 pm Browns had too many draft picks. Couldn't use them all. Giving up a 5th to lock up the guy they wanted all along is no big deal They need QB help though. Brandon Weeden is not the answer at QB Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: RichThrawn on May 08, 2014, 09:26:14 pm Another shocker. Taylor Lewin is picked by the Titans despite them needing QB and RB help
Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: MikeO on May 08, 2014, 09:26:42 pm They need QB help though. Brandon Weeden is not the answer at QB This QB class is weak. Plus the Browns spent $100,000 on some new age QB analysis and it said Bridgewater is the best one. Can get him at 26 Weeden is in Dallas now anyway so Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: Tenshot13 on May 08, 2014, 09:42:10 pm Every team is making good picks. No real head scratchers yet. Browns have a scary secondary.
Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: RichThrawn on May 08, 2014, 09:47:02 pm Every team is making good picks. No real head scratchers yet. Browns have a scary secondary. Trying to copy Seattle's mold Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: Cathal on May 08, 2014, 09:54:15 pm There goes Zach Martin.
Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: Tenshot13 on May 08, 2014, 09:56:37 pm Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: MikeO on May 08, 2014, 09:59:31 pm The one year Dallas gets a clue they screw us! Then Shazier to Pitt doesn't help either.
Miami should just trade out of Rd 1 now and load up on picks and double up on Rd 2 and 3 on a bunch of linemen and hope one or two hit. No value left at 19 Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: RichThrawn on May 08, 2014, 10:01:27 pm The one year Dallas gets a clue they screw us! Then Shazier to Pitt doesn't help either. Miami should just trade out of Rd 1 now and load up on picks and double up on Rd 2 and 3 on a bunch of linemen and hope one or two hit. No value left at 19 I agree. Now that Mosley just got snatched up by Baltimore, it's time to trade down Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: MikeO on May 08, 2014, 10:04:37 pm I agree. Now that Mosley just got snatched up by Baltimore, it's time to trade down Problem is there is nobody to trade up for. Miami will probably take a CB or Safety at 19 Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: mecadonzilla on May 08, 2014, 10:10:40 pm I'm hoping someone gets stupid and trades with Miami to get Johnny Football.
Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: Sunstroke on May 08, 2014, 10:15:40 pm I was expecting Beckham jr to be available at #19, prompting SF to trade up for him, but the Giants kinda boned that maneuver. Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: Cathal on May 08, 2014, 10:15:43 pm I'm guessing WR.
EDIT: That's why I'm not a football guy I suppose. Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: mecadonzilla on May 08, 2014, 11:01:41 pm Did I just see Derek Carr crying on the ESPN broadcast as they threw it to break?
Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: el diablo on May 08, 2014, 11:02:58 pm Let the countdown begin for Johnny Football to be "taking his talents to South Beach."
Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: Sunstroke on May 08, 2014, 11:42:17 pm 49ers surprised a bit with the pick of Jimmy Ward. I think a Reid-Ward safety duo could be solid, but we already have Bethea, so don't really need a starting safety. We do need a slot corner, and the talking heads are saying he can slide down and do that. My CB/WR short wish list for rounds 2-3, in order of preference: CB: Pierre Desir, Stan Jean-Baptiste, Keith McGill, Phillip Gaines and Aaron Colvin WR: Cody Latimer, Marqise Lee, Allen Robinson, Davante Adams, Martavis Bryant, Jordan Matthews Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: RichThrawn on May 09, 2014, 08:54:44 am And this is why Cleveland will never be serious contenders. I heard in ESPN Radio this morning that they didn't over $100K to hire consultants for QBs and the consultants spent hours doing research and personal visits and told Ray Farmer the best QB was Teddy Bridgewater. Cleveland trades up to 22, Bridgewater is still available, and they take Manziel. What a waste of money
Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: CF DolFan on May 09, 2014, 09:18:54 am And this is why Cleveland will never be serious contenders. I heard in ESPN Radio this morning that they didn't over $100K to hire consultants for QBs and the consultants spent hours doing research and personal visits and told Ray Farmer the best QB was Teddy Bridgewater. Cleveland trades up to 22, Bridgewater is still available, and they take Manziel. What a waste of money I heard that last night. Pretty funny. Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: RichThrawn on May 09, 2014, 09:22:56 am So the Vikings pulled a slick move and snatched Teddy Bridgewater out from under Houston's nose. Does Houston now take David Carr's little brother?
Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: Brian Fein on May 09, 2014, 09:57:57 am So the Vikings pulled a slick move and snatched Teddy Bridgewater out from under Houston's nose. Does Houston now take David Carr's little brother? I laughed and laughed about this at the time. Maybe those people with old CARR jerseys can brush them off an wear them again! hahaha!! I am sure the Texans were eager to grab Teddy at 2.1. The Vikings really screwed them. Side note: I think if Houston takes Carr, it leaves Arizona as the only team left with no solution at QB. Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: MikeO on May 09, 2014, 10:13:23 am I laughed and laughed about this at the time. Maybe those people with old CARR jerseys can brush them off an wear them again! hahaha!! I am sure the Texans were eager to grab Teddy at 2.1. The Vikings really screwed them. Side note: I think if Houston takes Carr, it leaves Arizona as the only team left with no solution at QB. Word is Houston wants nothing to do with Carr. They wanted Bridgewater bad. Now it looks like they are going to trade for Mallett if they can. I guess the Houston owner McNair has bad blood with Carr's parents from when his brother was there. The Vikings ruined Houston's night with that final move to get Teddy from everything I am hearing and reading this morning. Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on May 09, 2014, 12:12:59 pm Side note: I think if Houston takes Carr, it leaves Arizona as the only team left with no solution at QB. AZ is rather happy with Palmer. He has built up a nice relationship with Fitz and company. He had a rough start but was really in sync with them as the season wore on. They were looking to draft a QB to groom for the future but not as an immediate starter. They really like Carr but I don't know that he will make it past Houston in round 2!!!!! Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on May 09, 2014, 12:29:04 pm And this is why Cleveland will never be serious contenders. I heard in ESPN Radio this morning that they didn't over $100K to hire consultants for QBs and the consultants spent hours doing research and personal visits and told Ray Farmer the best QB was Teddy Bridgewater. Cleveland trades up to 22, Bridgewater is still available, and they take Manziel. What a waste of money That assumes of course that Cleveland leak was accurate and not smokescreen so they could take Manziel. Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: Brian Fein on May 09, 2014, 01:48:49 pm AZ is rather happy with Palmer. He has built up a nice relationship with Fitz and company. He had a rough start but was really in sync with them as the season wore on. They were looking to draft a QB to groom for the future but not as an immediate starter. They really like Carr but I don't know that he will make it past Houston in round 2!!!!! Surprised they are all in with Palmer. He's no spring chicken and he's not so great that his job is cemented. I would think you'd want to bring in a young guy to be his successor...?Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: MikeO on May 09, 2014, 03:03:45 pm SF just traded for Bills WR Stevie Johnson. Gave up a conditional 2015 4th round pick
Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: Sunstroke on May 09, 2014, 04:23:51 pm Yep, and with no disrespect to Quinton Patton, Stevie would immediately slide into the #3 WR role. This is a good fit for him. Even though he put up 3 straight 1,000 yard seasons with Buffalo trying to shoehorn him into that #1 WR slot, his best fit is being the complementary WR to a true #1. 49ers receiving targets for 2014: Michael Crabtree, Anquan Boldin, Vernon Davis, Stevie Johnson, Quinton Patton and whichever WR they draft today (and they will draft a WR today). That's not a bad stable of receivers, but they still need that pure burner who can take the top off a defense.* * 2 points subtracted for gratuitous slinging of an over-used football cliche. Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: RichThrawn on May 09, 2014, 09:37:40 pm Morgan Moses fell all the way to the third round.
Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: RichThrawn on May 09, 2014, 10:35:51 pm Houston stl has not drafted a QB and Cleveland still hasn't drafted a receiver
Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: Sunstroke on May 09, 2014, 11:35:43 pm If you count in SF's trade for Stevie Johnson today, the 49ers have come out of the first 3 rounds with a wealth of talent: S/CB Jimmie Ward (fills immediate need for slot corner) RB Carlos Hyde (#1 RB on my list) C Marcus Martin (#1 C on my list) LB Chris Borland (tough $%&^, good depth while Bowman heals) OG Brandon Thomas (elite talent we can stash on PUP this year, great insurance if SF lets Iupati go at end of season) WR Stevie Johnson And we have 2 4th rounders, 2 5th rounders, 1 6th and 2 7th rounders tomorrow. I just want them to move up and grab Pierre Desir with their early 4th round pick. It's been a while since I've wanted a player on the 49ers this much...surely they'll pick him to reward me for being such a loyal fan all these years. ;D Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: MikeO on May 10, 2014, 05:28:44 pm Draft is entering Rd 7 so its pretty much over.
Teams I thought had a GOOD draft: Jax, SF, Saints, Rams, TB Teams I thought had a BAD draft: KC, NE, Dallas, Detroit Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: RichThrawn on May 10, 2014, 05:51:56 pm Michael Sam still has not been drafted
Title: Re: FAU Draft thread Post by: Sunstroke on May 10, 2014, 05:54:06 pm Since I understand that Dave likes to know this sort of stuff... A pair of local FAU Owls got drafted this year: 1) Keith Reaser, FAU's injured super speedy corner, was drafted by the 49ers at pick #170 2) Randell Johnson, the Owls OLB/DE, worked out for Miami last month, but was drafted by Buffalo at #221 today Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: MikeO on May 12, 2014, 07:22:14 am Another NFL Draft is coming in Late August when SF has to trim their roster and get rid of some quality guys. I am surprised they made so many picks and didn't trade more away for picks next year.
Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: Sunstroke on May 12, 2014, 08:31:46 am I agree...any time a team with deep talent makes cuts, good players end up back in the pool. I think SF took a look at the bottom of their roster, saw guys like Hampton, Bykowski, Dobbs and others that were pretty much dead weight, and figured there was room for the draft picks. I think SF pulled off a nice mix of adding guys that can help us win THIS season (Ward as the slot corner, Ellington for the return game), and high-ceiling players who can be developed into lower-cost replacements for current starters (like Brandon Thomas to groom for Mike Iupati) a year or two down the line. Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on May 12, 2014, 12:06:50 pm Surprised they are all in with Palmer. He's no spring chicken and he's not so great that his job is cemented. I would think you'd want to bring in a young guy to be his successor...? It was not an immediate need. There is no doubt they need to groom a younger guy to step in and they will likely address it more in next years draft. Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: Sunstroke on May 12, 2014, 01:47:08 pm Speaking of QBs...the final returns are in on the Alex Smith trade to KC. After the appropriate amount of Trent Baalke wheeling and dealing, the two second round picks we received in exchange for Alex Smith turned into the following players: WR Stevie Johnson RB Carlos Hyde DE Tank Carradine OLB Corey Lemonier ILB Chris Borland Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: masterfins on May 12, 2014, 03:20:07 pm If you count in SF's trade for Stevie Johnson today, the 49ers have come out of the first 3 rounds with a wealth of talent: S/CB Jimmie Ward (fills immediate need for slot corner) RB Carlos Hyde (#1 RB on my list) C Marcus Martin (#1 C on my list) LB Chris Borland (tough $%&^, good depth while Bowman heals) OG Brandon Thomas (elite talent we can stash on PUP this year, great insurance if SF lets Iupati go at end of season) I was hoping Miami would have taken Martin three spots earlier, instead of Turner. He probably could have been used as a guard, not to mention a needed backup to Pouncey who is two tweets and a night club altercation away from being deported to Cleveland. Title: Re: Non Dolphins Draft thread Post by: Sunstroke on May 12, 2014, 03:49:03 pm ^^^ Three of the guys that SF ended up taking, Hyde, Martin and Thomas, were all on my list of players that I was hoping Miami would consider during this draft. |