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More turnover coming thanks to the femme fetale of the NFL

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24728031/divide-between-philbin-front-office-has-dolphins-on-path-for-more-turnover

>>"Aponte's fraying relationship with Philbin is at the core of the team's prevailing issues"

This is true, Aponte can't block worth a shit...

>>"Several league sources said that Ross is covertly working to be positioned to potentially trade for 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh"

Can I get an official count on how many wishy-washy unverifiable terms are used in this one sentence? I count four...

In equally realistic news, several unnamed TDMMC sources said that Dave Gray is covertly working to be positioned to potentially become a Russian cosmonaut.

Udachi, tovarisch Dave...dostich' dlya tekh zvezd!
(Good luck, Comrade Dave...reach for those stars!)

You are my hero and the wind beneath my wings.

Am I slow ???

Did going to Afghanistan messed with my mind, since when u can Trade a coach ???

Parcells was traded from the Patriots to the Jets.
Belichick was traded from the Jets to the Patriots.
Gruden was traded from the Raiders to the Bucs.

After Gruden, the NFL enacted a rule saying that you may no longer trade picks for a coach.

SF almost traded Harbaugh to Cleveland last offseason

Is that your poetic way of telling me that I'm full of hot air? ;)

Thank you for the history.  I did not know about them being traded. I always thought they left to coach those teams

I was under the impression that if the coach was still under contract with his former team, the new team would have to give the old team a draft pick or two as "compensation"

I read this story this morning and it seems like blatant pot-stirring to me.  As Sunstroke eloquently pointed out, this story has all the making of "I'm writing this story and making it up as I go along"

This kind of story is the kind of thing PFT is notorious for.

But this rift stuff is also the kind of thing Dawn Aponte is notorious for.

Which is why it writes itself and people lap it up as gospel.

Team sources told me whilst in London that the Dolphins didn't enjoy having to fly to an away game on a different continent.


See, I could write for PFT.

People keep mentioning PFT, makes me wonder if you clicked on the link to the article...?

No, In all honesty I didn't, there used to be a rule on here about not just posting links to other sites, either quoting the text or giving some analysis about the story.

Looks like I could write for CBS sports too...just pick a topic which people perceive to be true, quote some unnamed sources. Done.

Without unnamed sources, we would have exponentially less news. Part of being a journalist is to let your sources know they can trust you.

Without "unnamed sources" people would actually be responsible for verifying their information before word-vomiting any rumor or unsubstantiated made-up thought onto a internet blog. 

Unnamed sources could be literally anyone.

Without unnamed sources, no one would give them information. Most sources wished to remain unnamed. But as the old saying goes, where there is smoke, there is fire.


I'm sure a well known reporter like Jason La Canfora is not getting this information from the janitor...

No words cooked up by man in the literary kitchen have been used more often than those to justify jumping to an unverified conclusion.

That'd be great if we hadn't seen this play out last season between Aponte, Philbin and Ireland.

Here's dessert.

You've got to see the forest for the trees.

Bon appetit.

It's the female genes.  This is why chicks don't belong in an NFL front office.   :D

Mmm, Vanilla...such a rare and exotic treat.  ;)

I'm on a roll today.

Life is simple if you stick to the basics.

I'm not sure if you were serious or not.  LaCanfora is notorious in the media for publishing stories that end up being false.  Did it several times last season alone.

All of these guys have stories that don't pan out. Adam Shefter, Peter King, our local beat writers. We could go on all day about how these guys miss stories.

That doesn't mean they don't have well-placed sources feeding them information.

Given Dawn Aponte's past, I am willing to give La Canfora the benefit of the doubt on this story. She is loyal to no one but herself and her ambition knows no bounds.

Fine but look at the spin, and the stretch he puts on the headline...

Internal turmoil still the norm for the Dolphins. QB change could be coming soon: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24728031/divide-between-philbin-front-office-has-dolphins-on-path-for-more-turnover …

https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/516207384575115264

How do you post an article stating "QB change could be coming soon" after a game like yesterday?

I guess, to be fair, the article was posted yesterday morning.  But this is the same guy that posted articles saying Cameron Wake was about to be traded, Mike Wallace was about to the traded.  Sean Smith was getting the franchise tag.  Same guy broke ALL these stories.  I remember one a while back about Jason Taylor too that he posted that was complete trash.  Sorry, but for me, he has completely lost credibility.  I haven't seen any other writer habitually get this many stories wrong.

My guess is that he was just piling on the previously existing controversy and trying to push it a step further.  Or link 2 seemingly unrelated stories to spin a web of controversy.  Sorry, I just am not buying it.  We don't have to take these writers' words as fact.


This doesn't even make sense.  He's saying Philbin has interest in starting Matt Moore because Sherman was fired, but was interested BEFORE Sherman got fired?  Does he know what Philbin is thinking without asking him?  HE must be a mind reader.

Sorry but this entire story reads like a 3rd grade book report, and is worth about just as much.

That's not what he reported. He reported that according to sources the Dolphins would listen to offers. That's a far cry from saying they are about to be traded.


Actually, he reported that Randy Starks would and he did.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/21809543/dolphins-likely-to-franchise-tag-defensive-lineman-randy-starks

^^ My mistake, it was Alex Smith, not Sean Smith. (article said "Smith," I filled in the blank)

And this article cites the same "unnamed sources" that Jordan, Wake, and Wallace were being shopped.  All vehemently denied by the team later on.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24460690/miami-dolphins-shopping-2013-first-round-pick-dion-jordan

And this:

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2014/02/dolphins-respond-to-jordan-wake-wallace-trade-rumor.html

A team is not going to admit to shopping a player if they aren't getting the type of interest they are looking for.

Not really. 

You can ethically report news if you get enough evidence to suggest a story is true.  Usually, three secondary sources make something a fact.  Your closeness to the organization depends on if you're a primary source or not.

It's the job of the reporter (and their reputation) that you're buying into.

So, if John Clayton reports something is true, even with unnamed sources, he's trustworthy -- he's been doing this long enough, has shown a reputation, etc. 

Some equipment manager could be blowing the whistle, but they won't go public because they'll lose their job.

It's when sites are so quick to be the first to report anything that they don't wait for three secondary sources, or they print info they know isn't reliable that they start getting a bad reputation.  PFT is known for this because they have very little filter.

I agree with everything you say Rich....but LaCanfora is garbage. Especially when it comes to Dolphins stories. He hasn't been right once. He announced a Fins press conference a couple years back when they signed Ahmed Bradshaw....obviously that didn't happen. He was dead wrong. He was 100% wrong this past offseason with his Wallace and Jordan being traded rumor, they were never offered nor could they be because of the salary cap implications. Anyone could look at the salary cap hit and realize neither could be traded.

LaCanfora is 0-100 and counting when it comes to Dolphins stories. The guy's track record is garbage. The next story he gets right with the Fins will be his first.

In general overall I agree with your points and stance when it comes to journalism and reporting....just can't give LaCanfora any credit. He sucks

He reported a rumor that the Eagles were interested in Dion Jordan. That doesn't mean he reported the Dolphins were looking to trade Jordan.

Actually, when the rumor came out I dismissed it because of the 8 figure cap hit trading Jordan would create.

But we have to make a distinction between reporting rumors on Twitter and putting up an article on CBS. Too many people see something on Twitter and consider it news.

Actually a Philly Radio station first reported the Jordan rumor and LaCanfora stole it from them and ran with it. I always found it funny none of the ESPN guys or Glazer reported it. A couple mentioned it as LaCanfora's report but would NEVER put their name too it as in they heard it as well or confirmed other reports. That tells ya all you need to know about that one. Nobody but him would touch it (except for one Philly radio station.) Plus Armando made one phone call and shot that entire story down within 5 minutes.

But the Wallace and Cam Wake trade stuff I am 99% sure LaCanfora just flat out made up because there was just no way it was going to happen nor could it happen with the salary cap

If it comes from a reporter, a post on Twitter could be considered news.  If John Clayton posts on his Twitter account: "Peyton Manning Traded to Giants," You better believe its a news story.  Doesn't give him a free pass because he didn't post it on ESPN.com.

I just feel like citing "unnamed sources" removes accountability.  Reporters will lean on "source confidentiality" to remove their accountability.  I trust John Clayton because he hasn't missed on a bunch of stories.  He doesn't publish headlines using words like "could" and "may."  He's reputable.  

A guy like LaCanfora posts an article that said "QB change may be coming!" is only designed to incite doubt.  I heard from unnamed sources that "Brian Fein could win the lottery tomorrow!"  Headlines!  Of course I COULD, but I probably won't.  Just be forthcoming in your reporting, check and double check, and have multiple sources.  Don't rush to press because you wanna be first.  The journalism industry is built on trust and reputation, and some reporters are more interested in hearing their name on SportsCenter rather than being sure.

http://www.pageqsports.com/2014/09/brady-quinn-eviscerates-dolphins-writer-on-radio/

Brady Quinn went after Omar Kelly on the radio

Man, if that weak-ass shit is what passes for evisceration and annihilation these days, we've truly become a nation of overly delicate pussies...

Now this story comes out tonight:

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2014/09/11-pm-tuesday-dolphins-roster-rookie-front-office-news-kaayaum-chatter-heat-marlins.html

The important part:


Gee, LaCanfora was wrong again. Never saw that one coming...