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Title: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 12, 2015, 02:09:26 pm
I have always said the single greatest nfl play of all time was the fake spike play.

I have decided that nep ineligible receiver play edges that out slightly as even more ingenious

granted that is just one persons opinion and some with an obvious ne bias


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: Fau Teixeira on January 12, 2015, 02:13:07 pm
i liked it too .. i think baltimore crying about it was dumb .. you play the game .. at least you should know the rules.


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: Brian Fein on January 12, 2015, 02:27:30 pm
I don't understand how you can say it was ingenious...


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 12, 2015, 03:47:47 pm
I think the Helmet Catch was a much better play than the fake spike... particularly if you consider all involved.

I can see why a Patriots fan might not hold that play in equally high esteem.


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: Phishfan on January 12, 2015, 03:54:51 pm
I don't think the helmet catch really counts in this conversation. We are talking about the genius of drawing up a play. Not the physical abilities (or pure luck) of a play.


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 12, 2015, 04:16:31 pm
I don't think the helmet catch really counts in this conversation. We are talking about the genius of drawing up a play. Not the physical abilities (or pure luck) of a play.

exactly.  Wildcat, & edlemamans pass would be part of the class of plays I am talking about, the helmet catch and hail marys are not


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: Brian Fein on January 12, 2015, 05:15:40 pm
I was waiting for that. 

The Edelman pass play is a play that is run by thousands of drunken frat boys in every intramural flag football league across the country.  Let's stop short of calling it "ingenious" unless you're considering the pledge captain of Phi Eta Kappa* to be an offensive mastermind.

*Before you jump on my ass, I don't know if Phi Eta Kappa is a real fraternity, I just made up 3 Greek letters for the purpose of making my point.


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 12, 2015, 05:31:01 pm
Note to brian, I didn't rank the eldman pass nor the wildcat above the fake spike and ineligible receiver for that very reason.


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: Phishfan on January 12, 2015, 06:27:28 pm
Rest at ease Brian. I looked it up, Phi Etta Kappa is a local fraternity at the University of Maine. I was really hoping you had something exciting in those small letters.


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: Pappy13 on January 12, 2015, 07:10:19 pm
I have always said the single greatest nfl play of all time was the fake spike play.

I have decided that nep ineligible receiver play edges that out slightly as even more ingenious

granted that is just one persons opinion and some with an obvious ne bias
Nope. If you can run the same play 3 times on the same drive and it works all 3 times, it doesn't compare with the fake spike. :)


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 12, 2015, 07:18:32 pm
Nope. If you can run the same play 3 times on the same drive and it works all 3 times, it doesn't compare with the fake spike. :)

Even a jets coach isn't stupid enough to fall for the same trick 3 times  ;D


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: Fau Teixeira on January 13, 2015, 01:24:43 pm
Even a jets coach isn't stupid enough to fall for the same trick 3 times  ;D

if i remember right the dolphins abused the pats with the wildcard more than 3 times in the same game i think it was 6


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: Dave Gray on January 13, 2015, 01:31:57 pm
I've been sick the last few days, so I've just been sleeping or on drugs.  I saw this explained on PTI or something, but I didn't understand what happened.  Can someone break it down to me like I'm 5?


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: Phishfan on January 13, 2015, 01:46:35 pm
^^^ Easy to understand right here. The NEP lined up with 4 regular lineman. The rules say there have to be 5 ineligible receivers on the line of scrimmage. They sent out a player with a receiver number in an ineligible receiver position (he does not have to be in the group of lineman, just on the line and ineligible). They confused the Ravens because with a quick enough start they can still be fumbling around to determine which guys are lined up as eligible receivers.

The NEP did this three times using the ineligible player in multiple spots in their formation.


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: Brian Fein on January 13, 2015, 01:47:45 pm
My understanding was that Shane Vereen declared himself ineligible, and then lined up in the slot as a receiver, and drew coverage, and ran a little roll out to the flat to take defenders out of the play covering an ineligible receiver.

Someone supplement my description if there's more to it than that.


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: fyo on January 13, 2015, 05:48:18 pm
^ Yup, that's pretty much it. All the other technical (and, IMHO, ridiculous) line rules were followed to the T.


Title: Re: marino play drops to #2 in my book
Post by: Pappy13 on January 16, 2015, 06:11:42 pm
He said like he's 5.

They used a WR as a lineman which is allowed as long as he reports that he is ineligible to the refs prior to the play. Baltimore was confused as to who were lineman and who were the WR's.