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Does this mean the end for him?

If it does he sure had a wonderful career.

Even if he had not won the Super Bowl in 2006 it would not taint his career at all.

Here are some of his defining games

2003: 21 point comeback on MNF against the Bucs

2006: 18 Point comeback in the AFC championship game against the Patriots

2009: 20 point comeback against the Patriots

2012: 24 point comeback against the Chargers on MNF

He has an injured foot and rib cage. Has a lot to do with his poor play.

Probably his last year anyway, he will be 40 by next season

NFL Network reporting Manning hasn't talked to Brock Osweiler all week. Hasn't attended 1 meeting, 1 practice, or tried to help the kid out in any way. He hasn't even had 1 conversation with him.

This is the real NFL and why I always laugh when people say bring in a Vet to mentor the young guys. Few if any vet's want to help any young player take their job.

Like in every workplace...some do, some don't.  Peyton never mentored in Indy either.  Farve is on the record stating that mentoring Rodgers was not part of his job. On the other hand Brady has mentored his backups and talked frequently with Cassel the year he was on IR.  Pennington and Testiverte from what I understand were both great mentors.   Randy Moss despite all his other issues was a great mentor to WR and DBs a like. 

Different people have different personalities. 

From what I recall, Cassell had a very good season that year.

Manning looked like he had lost a lot of zip on the ball even last year.  I hope that he can get past the injuries and get it together for the remainder of what will be his last year.  People don't realize how hard it is to hang it up when your skills are starting to diminish.  Usually, the player is the last one to really grasp that reality and it can lead to some really sad endings to great careers.  I remember as a kid watching the great Wille Mays during his last season when he went back to NY to play for the Mets.  The guy couldn't get around on a fast ball, could barely run, looked pained even when walking. I think he hit like .225 or something his last year.  That is no way to end great sports career.  I hope the same doesn't happen to Manning. 

you know what they say ... Better to leave one year early than one year late.

No doubt.  Being an over the hill, has-been of an athlete (obviously not at the level of these guys though) myself, I can attest that coming to the realization that you can't hack it anymore is a tough one.   

You know, unless you're making $20 million per season, and then it's better to leave 3-4 years too late. ;)

Touche'.   ;D

Yeah, I'm sure it's pretty easy for Brady to mentor people who have absolutely no chance of taking his job.  I would be surprised if 1999-era Favre didn't have some words of wisdom for Matt Hasselbeck, but it's quite the different situation when your team is 1-7 immediately after they drafted a first-round QB.  Favre was feeling the heat almost from the moment Rodgers stepped off the plane.

No doubt your own level of confidence in yourself is a major factor. 

But there was no guarantee that if Matt Cassel had a great year in 2008, that Brady would be with the team in 2009.  Belichick is pretty ruthless and if he had confidence in a younger, uninjured  Cassel with a smaller cap space hit and a nice offer of 2 first round draft picks he might have sent Brady to KC instead.  I doubt Brady was worried that he would be out of work in 2009, but if MC did well enough Brady could have been out of NE. 

If Brock wins tonight vs the Pats you might have seen Peyton Manning play his last snap in an NFL game

even if the pats win we might have seen Peyton's  last snap. Actually outcome of the game almost doesn't matter.  If Peyton can't play, he can't play, if he can and Denver goes with BO Peyton will play for another team.

The outcome totally matters. If Brock wins no way they can go back to Peyton this year no matter what. Not even up for debate.

If Pats win, then at some point Manning will be under center for this team when he is healthy. And nothing Brock can do, with a loss tonight, prevents that. Brock can win every game except the Pats game and they are still gonna go back to Peyton at some point when he is healthy.

And Peyton ain't playing for another team, this is his final year as a player in the NFL.

Offered for debate...filed under N for "No Matter" and cross referenced with "What":

* Brock Osweiler beats the Patriots. After the game, whilst partying with his teammates, Brock Osweiler chokes on a Mezcal tequila worm and dies. The Broncos, after a suitable period of mourning that lasts 45 minutes, go back to Peyton at QB.

* Brock Osweiler beats the Patriots. After the game, whilst walking to his car, Brock Osweiler is abducted by aliens (everyone knows that extraterrestrials are Patriots fans) and flown through a wormhole to a galaxy far, far away. The Broncos, after consulting with Agent Mulder, go back to Peyton at QB.

* Brock Osweiler beats the Patriots. After the game, Brock goes cheapskate on his choice of hookers and contracts a freakish sexually transmitted flesh-eating virus. The Broncos, after notifying the Center for Disease Control, go back to Peyton at QB.

417,152 additional "No Matter What-Busters" available on request.

two flaws, 1 manning isn't giving up if he is physically capable of playing he is playing ifa team will have him.  He is more likely to play next year than this.

2. If denver wins while  brock throws 4 ints, he won't win the job permanently.  If denver loses a shooting match 49-48 because the kicker missed a pat, he will have won the job.  Has more to do with his play than win lose

Win, lose or draw, when Peyton is healthy he WILL BE the starter. It's not even up for debate. Bank on it 

I heard the same thing about Bledsoe.   BO can play well enough to win the job given hown poorly Peyton played b4 the injury.

Well he led a comeback tonight that appears like it is going to fall short

This report seems to show either Manning has come to accept that he is on the bench for the time being or the earlier reports were wrong. Manning came to the locker room with notes for halftime adjustments last night.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/30/osweiler-credits-peyton-for-halftime-adjustments/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs