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Title: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: CF DolFan on January 09, 2016, 11:55:32 am
Ryan Tanehill was recruited as a QB. He chose to play WR instead of being a back up. They don't call QBs who sat the bench unitl they could play QB benchwarmers turned QB so why do they call him a WR? I just don't understand that other than ignorance in knowing the situation.


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: Tenshot13 on January 09, 2016, 01:34:46 pm
Exactly. Ignorance.


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: Run Ricky Run on January 09, 2016, 04:19:57 pm
because he wasn't good enough to start on a college team that was 1 game over 500 while he was there?


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: fyo on January 09, 2016, 07:59:32 pm
because he wasn't good enough to start on a college team that was 1 game over 500 while he was there?

He started 20 games at quarterback in college, including all of his final season. That's low, but far from unheard of for quarterbacks drafted in  the first round.


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: Run Ricky Run on January 09, 2016, 08:13:19 pm
And how many of those qbs who only had 20 starts had a team that was only one game over 500. Not exactly like he couldn't get on the field w a national contender


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: Pappy13 on January 09, 2016, 08:29:00 pm
And how many of those qbs who only had 20 starts had a team that was only one game over 500. Not exactly like he couldn't get on the field w a national contender
Here, I'll say it again for you since you seem to be a bit slow catching on. He started 20 games.


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: fyo on January 09, 2016, 08:33:51 pm
^ hahah, the Mike Sherman years at Texas A&M weren't exactly stellar (for the school).

Anyway, not sure how valid the comparison is, but I don't think I'm going to go through every first round qb in the past 20 years in any event.

Purely as a fun fact, I do recall that Matt Cassell never started a game in college.

I also seem to recall that Pat White started rather many games in college (and did reasonably well).


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: Run Ricky Run on January 09, 2016, 08:49:08 pm
Matt castellated couldn't get I the field for a team that lost 3 games his soph Jr. and sr year vs Tannehill who couldn't get on the field for a below avg team.


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: EKnight on January 09, 2016, 09:04:26 pm
Ryan Tanehill was recruited as a QB.
Yes he was. Absolutely correct. What position did he actually start off playing though?

He chose to play WR.

I honestly don't see how there is any confusion, let alone discussion. He- by your own statement and by point of fact- played WR, and then played QB. The assessment that Tannehill is a WR turned QB is accurate.


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 10, 2016, 12:25:20 am
Tannehill had switched back to QB in college, and has played every game of his 4 NFL seasons as a QB.

So it's pretty ridiculous to characterize Gase's job as "converting Tannehill from WR."  That's like saying that Bill Callahan's job, upon taking over the Raiders from Jon Gruden, was to "convert" Charles Woodson from a WR to a DB.


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: CF DolFan on January 10, 2016, 09:21:51 am
^ hahah, the Mike Sherman years at Texas A&M weren't exactly stellar (for the school).

Anyway, not sure how valid the comparison is, but I don't think I'm going to go through every first round qb in the past 20 years in any event.

Purely as a fun fact, I do recall that Matt Cassell never started a game in college.

I also seem to recall that Pat White started rather many games in college (and did reasonably well).
Matt Cassel also played TE, WR and half back to get on the field. He just wasn't as successful as Tannehill.


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: Pappy13 on January 10, 2016, 09:46:04 am
I honestly don't see how there is any confusion, let alone discussion.
Your thoughts on Ryan Tannehill are well known and have nothing whatsoever to do with rational thought.


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: EKnight on January 10, 2016, 11:25:31 am
Yes, because drafting him 8th overall and giving him a $96 million contract when he has yet to produce a winning season- THAT's rational.


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: CF DolFan on January 10, 2016, 11:46:16 am
Yes, because drafting him 8th overall and giving him a $96 million contract when he has yet to produce a winning season- THAT's rational.

LOL ... Are you stating that you have have no obligation to make any sort of rationale argument because the Miami Dolphins may or may not have given Tannhehill a justified contract? That's one of the most rediculous  "it's their fault I'm being childish" resonse I have ever seen. At least own up to the fact you hate the guy/organization or whatever and feel the need to troll people to feel better.  Don't patty cake it.


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: EKnight on January 10, 2016, 01:09:30 pm
I'm not patty caking anything. It's a pot/kettle situation. No one that still blindly defends Tannehill's play and excuses his lack of development by pointing fingers at other offensive players should be calling me out on a lack of rationality. There's an entire thread with metrics demonstrating that his poor play is much more on him than his Oline, and through 13 pages of it, you guys still believe what you want. That's the exact opposite of rational thought.

Re. this thread, I pointed out the flaw in your original stance. Like it or not, Tannehill IS a QB who played WR. It's a pointless debate.


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 10, 2016, 09:30:41 pm
I think the real unreasonable action is to expect rational, unbiased anaylsis from a person who declared the player in question a proven bust at halftime of his first game in week 1 of his rookie season.


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: Rich on January 11, 2016, 09:02:54 am
There's an entire thread with metrics demonstrating that his poor play is much more on him than his Oline, and through 13 pages of it, you guys still believe what you want.

Correction: there is one guy posting the metrics he cherry picks to get you to think what he wants and ignoring other metrics that show differently... such as the fact that this offensive line has been bottom half of the league, and often times bottom 5, according to the metrics.


Title: Re: Why does everyone call Tannehill a WR turned QB?
Post by: CF DolFan on January 11, 2016, 09:15:28 am
I think the real unreasonable action is to expect rational, unbiased anaylsis from a person who declared the player in question a proven bust at halftime of his first game in week 1 of his rookie season.
This is true. Dolfanalyst is a dream come true for his confirmation bias.