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Title: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Dave Gray on February 23, 2016, 01:11:47 pm I have to eat some crow.
I predicted that Deadpool wouldn't do well financially. Partly, because the self-aware humor would be foreign to general audiences and the R-rating would hurt the pull. I based this off of previous Internet darlings like Watchmen and Scott Pilgrim vs. the World playing to their bases, but not pulling in the masses. Also, anecdotally, when I saw the trailer play in front of The Revenent, the crowd was crickets. And then you have general superhero fatigue, where there are a bunch of superhero films every year...people just get tired. But clearly, I was wrong. Deadpool killed it and has raked in a ton of cash for a movie that, while entertaining, I didn't find to be very groundbreaking. But I've heard some movie critics predicting Deadpool, specifically, as the film before the crash. The fear is that Hollywood is going to take the R-rated hero concept and run it into the ground, making each movie darker and ruder and more adult, until the skin the sheep. Are you getting tired of superhero films yet? Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Spider-Dan on February 23, 2016, 01:33:37 pm It's ironic, because (arguably) the first "comic book" movie in the current era was an R-rated movie that came out in 1998: Blade.
Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Tenshot13 on February 23, 2016, 01:57:50 pm ^^^and most people don't even know it was based on a superhero...a lot of people think Iron Man was the first of the current era.
To answer Dave's question, "Nope. Keep 'em coming." Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Sunstroke on February 23, 2016, 02:08:01 pm I'm with Tenshot13 on this one...keep them coming! And, for the record, I seem to really like the R-rated versions. I really enjoyed Deadpool, and I consider both Watchmen and Scott Pilgrim to be phenomenal movies that have both received multiple viewings. Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Tenshot13 on February 23, 2016, 02:11:04 pm I'm with Tenshot13 on this one...keep them coming! Have you seen Super with Rainn Wilson? It is similar to the Kickass movies, but better IMO.And, for the record, I seem to really like the R-rated versions. I really enjoyed Deadpool, and I consider both Watchmen and Scott Pilgrim to be phenomenal movies that have both received multiple viewings. Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Phishfan on February 23, 2016, 02:12:47 pm I find I am fading on some but happy to see others. I quit watching X-Men movies and avoided Fantastic Four but went to see Deadpool and can't wait for Civil War.
Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Spider-Dan on February 23, 2016, 02:29:48 pm ^^^and most people don't even know it was based on a superhero...a lot of people think Iron Man was the first of the current era. I think you mean X-Men in 2000? There were already 3 Hugh Jackman X-Men movies and 3 Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movies by the time Iron Man came out in 2008, which were what gave Marvel the funding to open their own studio in the first place (Iron Man was the first Marvel Studios movie).Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Tenshot13 on February 23, 2016, 02:39:52 pm I think you mean X-Men in 2000? There were already 3 Hugh Jackman X-Men movies and 3 Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movies by the time Iron Man came out in 2008, which were what gave Marvel the funding to open their own studio in the first place (Iron Man was the first Marvel Studios movie). Yeah, I was in the mentality of the first to start the Marvel Studios movies, which wasn't my point. I'm discombobulated. Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: DaLittle B on February 23, 2016, 02:47:01 pm I get it,I'm probably not the demographic,but about 90-95% of them bore me to tears.I have a hard time "rooting for" or feeling empathy for characters in these type of movies,you know the hero is going to to win,because there have to be sequels.
For me some of them have a good story,sort of despite being a superhero movie.I like seeing the make ups,and some of the special effects,but that's not enough for me to want to see a movie (even at $2.15 for a redbox rental) I liked the Batman remakes,after watching them more,and more.I liked Antman a little bit,(I saw it once,I'm good),because it was a little different.Loved the Hellboy series,I'm not sure it's a superhero movie really. Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Sunstroke on February 23, 2016, 02:49:55 pm Have you seen Super with Rainn Wilson? It is similar to the Kickass movies, but better IMO. To be completely honest, not only have I not seen Super, but I haven't seen Kickass either. Guess I should add both of them to my Solar watch list... ;D Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Fau Teixeira on February 23, 2016, 03:12:58 pm It isn't just super hero movies .. because you had Batman as a movie in the 90s and you had superman in the 70s and you had xmen in the 2000s etc etc etc.
2008 iron man was different in that it didn't stop at 1 main character .. the difference was the ensemble cast of heroes .. and the different movies that all built upon each other while combining for a large collaborative movie in the end. That's what's changed Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: VidKid on February 23, 2016, 03:21:44 pm Let's not forget The Crow. I believe that was '93-'94 and rated R.
Great movie. I like the direction the movies have taken. The ensemble casts, the building of a universe. In the end, I was a comic book nerd before and I'll be a comic book nerd when its done. Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Spider-Dan on February 23, 2016, 03:28:24 pm I think Superman and Batman barely even qualify as comic book movies. Both of them were already incredibly famous from television shows, to the point where millions of people who had never picked up a comic book could describe the Joker, Catwoman, Lois Lane, etc.
X-Men was probably the first pure "comic book movie" success, in that X-Men was one of the top comic book titles but not too well known outside of that medium. Iron Man took that to the next level. Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: DaLittle B on February 24, 2016, 08:56:31 am I know the topic is specifically Superhero movies,but I'm curious if the influx of superhero T.V. shows might hasten the mainstream interest in the genre. Supergirl,the Flash,Gotham,agent of shield,agent carter?,green arrow still (I'm not sure it's still on?) on T.V. now,and probably more in the works.
Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Tenshot13 on February 24, 2016, 09:29:56 am I know the topic is specifically Superhero movies,but I'm curious if the influx of superhero T.V. shows might hasten the mainstream interest in the genre. Supergirl,the Flash,Gotham,agent of shield,agent carter?,green arrow still (I'm not sure it's still on?) on T.V. now,and probably more in the works. Don't forget Daredevil, Jessica Jones, DC's Legends of Tomorrow and upcoming shows Marvel's Most Wanted, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, The Defenders, Powerless...too many to count.Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Sunstroke on February 24, 2016, 10:04:08 am green arrow still (I'm not sure it's still on?) Yep, the show is called "Arrow," and it basically exists in the same world and crosses over with both The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow. Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Dave Gray on February 24, 2016, 11:04:56 am I'm still interesting in the movies, though not foaming at the mouth for them like I used to.
I have completely soured on TV, though. I no longer watch Flash, Arrow, Gotham, Agent Carter, or Agents of SHIELD. It just got to be too much and all I had to watch was superhero stuff all the time, so I stopped. Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Sunstroke on February 24, 2016, 01:52:42 pm I have completely soured on TV, though. I no longer watch Flash, Arrow, Gotham, Agent Carter, or Agents of SHIELD. It just got to be too much and all I had to watch was superhero stuff all the time, so I stopped. I haven't "completely" soured on Superhero TV, but I have dropped a few like Flash and Arrow. Gotham, Agent Carter and AoShield are definitely staying on my must-watch list though. On a non-superhero note, I haven't watched a single episode of The Walking Dead yet this season either. Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: DaLittle B on February 24, 2016, 01:53:55 pm I was so worried that someone was going to say,dude that show has been off the air for 5 years that I screwed up what I was saying... :-[ ???
I meant to say....I know the topic is specifically Superhero movies,but I'm curious if the influx of superhero T.V. shows might hasten the fatigue the mainstream population interest has in the genre. I think much like monster,aliens,space movies there will always be a place for the superhero genre.They've made man batmans,superman's,spiderman's,etc, through the years (as previously mentioned.) That probably wont stop,but I think will slow when enough of them start making less money. Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: VidKid on February 24, 2016, 05:04:05 pm Quote I haven't "completely" soured on Superhero TV, but I have dropped a few like Flash and Arrow. Gotham, Agent Carter and AoShield are definitely staying on my must-watch list though. I would put Flash back on the list and not worry about Agent Carter (which is probably done unless Netflix picks it up). Arrow has gone down a bit, but Flash has gotten ridiculous. Following the graphic novel storyline.. sort of... but making it crazy and i'm diggin' trying to put it all together. Really enjoy it. Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on February 24, 2016, 05:11:57 pm I am convinced I might be one of the few people in America who doesn't give a shit about the Superhero movies and I can honestly say I have not watched a single one. All of my friends talk about it and even my kid was trying to convince me to go see Deadpool this past weekend as it was "really good Dad". He knows I don't care and still tries to convince me to see them lol. If it is selling well, which it appears to be the studios will ride that horse until the legs fall off. This is nothing new they have done this for years. For those who do enjoy them I am sure it is the more the merrier!!!!!
Title: Re: Superhero Fatigue Post by: Tenshot13 on February 24, 2016, 07:33:06 pm I would put Flash back on the list and not worry about Agent Carter (which is probably done unless Netflix picks it up). Arrow has gone down a bit, but Flash has gotten ridiculous. Following the graphic novel storyline.. sort of... but making it crazy and i'm diggin' trying to put it all together. Really enjoy it. Loving the Flash right now. Superspeed +Time travel+Alternate realities=endless possibilities. |