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Title: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: Dave Gray on July 08, 2016, 01:55:29 pm Just getting a feeling on how people are reacting...
Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: Fau Teixeira on July 08, 2016, 02:14:10 pm on one hand it sucks .. and i feel badly that i won't watch him next season
on the other hand, i'm really glad we didn't give him a kobe sized contract and handicap the team giving 50 mil to a 35 year old with bad knees i'm way happier giving tyler johnson 4/50 than wade 2/40 Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: Spider-Dan on July 08, 2016, 02:23:30 pm Riley should have paid him. That 50 mil isn't just about what Wade has done, or will do... it's about advertising to other teams that the Heat brass will take care of players that sacrifice their own pay for the team; this is exactly the reason the Mavs just paid off Nowitzki. And you can't buy that kind of cred.
The next player that the Heat front office asks to take less money in the name of paying better free agents will look long and hard at how the Heat treated Wade. Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: Dave Gray on July 08, 2016, 02:26:38 pm I don't think it's about money, though. The HEAT offered 41.5/2 years, which is all their cap would allow, I think. Also, with no state tax, I think Wade actually made more to stay.
It was about Wade not being featured and built around, I think. Respect for him. I think that there is still bad-blood fallout from Lebron leaving and Wade not being involved in that. Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: Spider-Dan on July 08, 2016, 02:41:52 pm Heat had Bird rights to Wade, so they could have signed him to a max deal if they felt like it. Mavs went over the cap to re-sign Nowitzki.
Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: Phishfan on July 08, 2016, 03:54:54 pm There are also rumors that we need to look back to James leaving Miami. I have heard talking heads (I think it was Stephen A.) saying that behind the scenes Heat management felt that Wade knew all along James was leaving and he never spoke up. it seems the relationship was fractured and Wade just felt it was time to move on.
Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: Sunstroke on July 08, 2016, 10:01:17 pm I agree with Spidey on the Heat organization missing an opportunity to show some solid character. I really don't have any problem with a veteran player wanting to end his career in his hometown. If Wade had gone to some team like Sacramento or Charlotte, teams with no chance of winning anything, just for a little extra cash...I likely would have thought a little less of him for that. Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: EDGECRUSHER on July 10, 2016, 05:04:25 pm Wade did a ton for that team in terms of paycuts and they did not repay his loyalty. Looks very bad on the organization and you can bet the next time they ask a superstar to take a paycut, that guy will laugh in their faces.
Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: masterfins on July 11, 2016, 10:58:08 am Steph Curry is earning $12M per year, so I don't see how $20M+ per year should be viewed as an insult. Tom Brady is making $20M per year and IMO he is a much more valuable player for his team than Wade will be in the upcoming two years.
Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: Dave Gray on July 11, 2016, 11:23:19 am There are also rumors that we need to look back to James leaving Miami. I have heard talking heads (I think it was Stephen A.) saying that behind the scenes Heat management felt that Wade knew all along James was leaving and he never spoke up. it seems the relationship was fractured and Wade just felt it was time to move on. This seems true, from rumors I've heard, as well. It's as if Wade knew Lebron was leaving and played coy and stayed out of it. (Sided with Lebron over the organization.) It's not terrible that it happened that way, but it was pretty bad that the HEAT didn't know about it and had no contingency plan. Then, it came for Wade to be coddled and treated as family and the HEAT treated it as business. I am not angry at either side, but I think the organization did the right thing. I think the Bulls are foolish, but I'm also sad to see Wade gone. I wish it had played out differently. Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: Spider-Dan on July 11, 2016, 11:33:37 am Steph Curry is earning $12M per year, so I don't see how $20M+ per year should be viewed as an insult. Tom Brady is making $20M per year and IMO he is a much more valuable player for his team than Wade will be in the upcoming two years. Steph is wildly underpaid (he's the 4th highest paid player on the Warriors) so he is not a good point of comparison.Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: Dave Gray on July 11, 2016, 11:49:12 am You just can't compare contracts signed in different years.
Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: Phishfan on July 11, 2016, 01:03:41 pm You just can't compare contracts signed in different years. Especially contracts that are signed this year. The NBA bumped the cap so much that mediocre players are getting big money this offseason. Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: Spider-Dan on July 11, 2016, 01:07:11 pm In particular, Steph signed his current contract when he was still struggling with ankle injuries and had yet to break out. GS gave him a fairly generous contract because they believed he would improve, and it paid off for them big time.
He'll be a max player next year. Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: DZA on July 26, 2016, 08:30:05 pm It sucks that he left for 7 million more. I think he felt disrespected that he was not getting his pay day. But to be on the HEAT side of things, they was not going to pay him KOBE money to cripple the franchise for 2 years. Its sad to say, all the fans like "OH he deserves the money" which maybe True, but at the end of the day. He's in the late of his career, He is maried to an A-List actress in Gabrielle union, He make millions in endorsements SO WAS THIS REALLY ABOUT MONEY!!!
Im glad for the yyears with the heat but I follow the team and not individual players. Thank you D-WADE .. Funny You dont see Duncan or Dirk wanting more money at the latter stage of their careers. These players these days always want to think about money and not building a team. Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: Spider-Dan on July 26, 2016, 11:53:12 pm It sucks that he left for 7 million more. I think he felt disrespected that he was not getting his pay day. But to be on the HEAT side of things, they was not going to pay him KOBE money to cripple the franchise for 2 years. They probably should have, because he took less money to help bring them two more titles.I personally think that showing the entire league that you will take care of your franchise players that have sacrificed to help bring in better talent... that is worth more than the few million you saved, or the difference between a 3 seed and a 6 seed. But that's me. Quote Funny You dont see Duncan or Dirk wanting more money at the latter stage of their careers. That would be a stronger argument if the Mavs didn't just go over the cap to give Dirk a final payday. And it's not like the Heat are in the Spurs' position, where they are a legitimate title contender and every dollar/every signing can make or break a title run. MIA is in the same position as DAL: neither team has a realistic shot at the title right. This is the PERFECT time to make a symbolic gesture and pay the player that has defined your franchise.Mark Cuban understands something that Pat Riley and Micky Arison do not. Title: Re: How do you feel about Wade leaving the HEAT? Post by: Phishfan on July 27, 2016, 10:04:54 am That would be a stronger argument if the Mavs didn't just go over the cap to give Dirk a final payday. Don't forget the Duncan portion where the Spurs have decided to officially waive him and that means they will be paying his salary for next year as a parting gift (while having it count against their salary cap) even after he announced he would retire. |