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Title: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Phishfan on August 24, 2017, 10:55:46 am
I will be backtracking on my previous statements and will be watching the fight, I am still standing firm and will not be spending any money on it though. I have a friend who hosts a number of large events/parties (every Super Bowl, numerous fights, etc.) and this will be his last bash as he is moving. This is the only reason I have for going to watch this fight as I don't expect it to be very entertaining.

Is anyone else getting it our going somewhere to watch? What are your expectations?


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Sunstroke on August 24, 2017, 11:30:13 am

No plans to watch it...my interest in boxing fell bigly when the heavyweight division died, and I've never had any real interest in MMA.

If I were tossing a blind buck at a wager, I'd say Mayweather in a KO or TKO within the first 3 rounds.



Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: CF DolFan on August 24, 2017, 11:35:13 am
Just out of curiosity ... who is the favorite to win?


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Phishfan on August 24, 2017, 12:44:26 pm
Heavy betting is on McGregor. I've seen Vegas could be in trouble with the payouts if he can win. I've got to think that is just on the odds though. I think Mayweather has to be the favorite personally.


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: masterfins on August 24, 2017, 12:51:28 pm
I wouldn't pay for it, and don't know of any friends that would bother paying for it either.  Maybe I'll check around to see what bars in the area may have it on.


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Phishfan on August 24, 2017, 03:51:56 pm
I just saw a report that Mayweather has been hanging out in a strip club until the early morning hours this week. Sounds like that could be a mistake to me but then again who knows. He isn't scheduled to fight until 9 (I bet at least 30 mins after that before a punch is thrown) and he doesn't drink so I guess he can still be getting plenty of rest.


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: DaLittle B on August 24, 2017, 07:12:17 pm
Nope...I don't even know anyone that is planning to watch it....I even gave up trying to watch the Klitschko's fight... :-\


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Baba Booey on August 31, 2017, 02:57:45 pm
From the numbers released yesterday it shattered the ALL TIME Pay Pay View Record for a fight getting over 6.5 million buys. Which on Pay Per View is an insane number.  Beat the old pay per view record by two million.

This was one of those one events that captures the public to where even non-sports fans wanted to see it and be a part of the spectacle. And the numbers back that up. Kudos to all involved who put on this entertaining fight, a fun night of fights, and gave the public what they wanted and made a lot of money in the process.


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Dave Gray on August 31, 2017, 05:11:15 pm
I think that fights like this are ultimately bad for combat sports.  It's a circus atmosphere, but it doesn't do anything to promote the sport of boxing or MMA. 

Where does McGregor go from here?  Back to a regular contract with the UFC?  For what?


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 31, 2017, 05:19:39 pm
Why do you think it didn't promote the sport of boxing?

- It was literally the biggest PPV fight of all time.
- There were several up-and-coming boxers on the undercard that got some exposure.
- Boxing proved that a top MMA fighter couldn't just step in and win (just as MMA proved when the roles were reversed).
- The main event itself was generally entertaining and exciting for casual viewers.

I can't see any reason why this fight wasn't SIGNIFICANTLY better for boxing than Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, which was the previous record-holder.


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Dave Gray on August 31, 2017, 05:27:35 pm
I don't think that these big PPV fights promote the sport of boxing.  It promotes the celebrity, the circus, the carnival-barking, etc.  But I don't see anyone that wanted to watch that fight with any interest in the sport outside of that one fight.  It creates an atmosphere where these fighters are going to make more money by leaving their respective organizations, making a bunch of noise, creating gimmick fights, and then collecting a paycheck that doesn't further the sport itself.

It's my love/hate with Dana White.  UFC, in my opinion, would do better to legitimize itself and try to become the next NFL than to hype up two meatheads to fight each other at the weigh in, like goddamn WWE.  It's a short-sided promotion.  ...gets people hyped for the fight in front of them, but de-legitimizes the sport as human cockfighting.


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 31, 2017, 05:51:17 pm
I think that objection is more against the sport of boxing as a whole.  At a casual spectator level, boxing is and always has been about the spectacle of This Guy vs. That Guy.  Outside of the Olympics, there isn't laundry to root for in boxing like there is in team sports, so it's necessarily about the competitors.


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 31, 2017, 06:04:03 pm

- Boxing proved that a top MMA fighter couldn't just step in and win (just as MMA proved when the roles were reversed).


How is this news?  And in other News: Tom Brady can throw a football better than LaBron James and Tiger Woods can hit a golf ball further than Micheal Phelps.


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 31, 2017, 06:56:54 pm
Over half a billion dollars says that it is, in fact, news.  Because there were a lot of people buying the fight and/or betting on McGregor who thought that the MMA fighter could win.


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 31, 2017, 07:24:18 pm
Over half a billion dollars says that it is, in fact, news.  Because there were a lot of people buying the fight and/or betting on McGregor who thought that the MMA fighter could win.

People we're buying $20 powerball tickets....that didn't mean they thought he was going to win.


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Phishfan on September 01, 2017, 09:36:07 am
Because there were a lot of people buying the fight and/or betting on McGregor who thought that the MMA fighter could win.

They bet on McGregor to win because of the odds. I know several people who mentioned putting money on him (or wanting to if they had the money to gamble) because of the odds, not one said they really thought he would win but they would still take the chance.


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Spider-Dan on September 01, 2017, 11:25:18 am
To reiterate: there were 6.5 million buys of a $100 fight that you guys are claiming everyone knew was a waste of time.  That translates to 650 million dollars.

If Tiger Woods vs. Michael Phelps on a golf course could generate $650 million worth of PPV buys, I submit that necessarily means there are a substantial number of people who believe the outcome is in doubt.


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Phishfan on September 01, 2017, 11:45:27 am
I know there were some who thought McGregor would win. I was simply stating that many of those bets (and the majority I knew of) were odds based.


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 01, 2017, 12:30:42 pm
To reiterate: there were 6.5 million buys of a $100 fight that you guys are claiming everyone knew was a waste of time.  That translates to 650 million dollars.

If Tiger Woods vs. Michael Phelps on a golf course could generate $650 million worth of PPV buys, I submit that necessarily means there are a substantial number of people who believe the outcome is in doubt.

By that logic all the revenue that the Harlem Globe Trotters generate is proof that a substantial number of people believe they will get to see the Washington Generals be victorious.  I would watch a contest in which Rex Ryan challenges Joey Chestnut to a hotdog eating contest purely for the entertainment value not because I doubt the outcome.  And I would drop $10 buck on a bet that gets me $500 if Tom Brady beats LaBron James in a game of one on one basketball even though I would expect to lost my money.


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Baba Booey on September 01, 2017, 11:32:16 pm
To reiterate: there were 6.5 million buys of a $100 fight that you guys are claiming everyone knew was a waste of time.  That translates to 650 million dollars.


Agree and you get it. Some of the posts in this thread are comical. I mean people it's a business and the fact they put on an entertaining night of fights and made a lot of money in the process how can anyone say anything negative about this?  The main event fight was entertaining and McGreggor while I won't say he almost won at least in the early rounds put up a legit fight and showed he could hang and kept it interesting and planted some seeds that hey he is doing well here and ya never know.

This is a business and when 6.5 million people pay $100 for a fight to rip that or say anything negative about that is just beyond the realm of logic. Get a clue people


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Baba Booey on September 01, 2017, 11:34:14 pm

Where does McGregor go from here?  Back to a regular contract with the UFC?  For what?

Yes he goes back to the UFC. Because guys who make $100 million in a night usually spend $120 million in a year and need to keep earning to support their lavish lifestyle. Why did Floyd take this fight? He didn't need the money. But if you want the big homes, the three dozen sports cars and spend like he spends you need to keep earning. So yes McGreggor will go back to the UFC, get more money out of the UFC for his fights and keep earning cause he likes to spend $$$$ like a wild man


Title: Re: Is anyone going to watch Mayweather vs. McGregor?
Post by: Spider-Dan on September 02, 2017, 12:51:39 am
By that logic all the revenue that the Harlem Globe Trotters generate is proof that a substantial number of people believe they will get to see the Washington Generals be victorious.
What a terrible analogy.  People pay to watch the Globetrotters for the same reason they pay to watch Star Wars: entertainment.

You claim that no one thought McGregor had any chance but you have provided no evidence to back up your claim.  In point of fact, of Mayweather's last 10 fights, only two (Pacquiao and Canelo) have been less of an underdog than McGregor was.  Even Shane Mosley (-400) was more of an underdog than McGregor (-350)... and Mayweather's last opponent, Andre Berto, was nearly ten times more of an underdog (-3000) than McGregor was.  So I'm not sure why you see this fight as so unique.  Mayweather outclasses everyone he fights.