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Title: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: masterfins on November 12, 2017, 11:00:08 pm It would be surprising if McAdoo is the Giants coach past Monday. If your team can't get up to play the winless 49ers he HAS definitely lost the locker room; and looking at their schedule it is very possible they will not win another game this season.
It has to be time for Marvin Lewis to be done with the Cincinnati Bengals. They are 3-6 and are not going to make the playoffs, which always seemed to be his savior that they would make the playoffs. Hue Jackson of the Browns doesn't seem to be getting it done either. Lots of top draft picks (three first rounders this year) and they can't buy a win. Then they take DeShone Kizer with the 52nd overall and are ready to move on from him (trying to sign Garropollo & McCarron) without ever giving Kizer a chance to develop. Goff is playing quite well with the Rams this year after a not so great start last year. They should be able to win some games with the talent they have. Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: Downunder Dolphan on November 13, 2017, 04:12:40 am It would be surprising if McAdoo is the Giants coach past Monday. If your team can't get up to play the winless 49ers he HAS definitely lost the locker room; and looking at their schedule it is very possible they will not win another game this season. It has to be time for Marvin Lewis to be done with the Cincinnati Bengals. They are 3-6 and are not going to make the playoffs, which always seemed to be his savior that they would make the playoffs. Hue Jackson of the Browns doesn't seem to be getting it done either. Lots of top draft picks (three first rounders this year) and they can't buy a win. Then they take DeShone Kizer with the 52nd overall and are ready to move on from him (trying to sign Garropollo & McCarron) without ever giving Kizer a chance to develop. Goff is playing quite well with the Rams this year after a not so great start last year. They should be able to win some games with the talent they have. It's now two weeks in a row where you can see where individual players have quit on opposition touchdown scoring plays in the Giants defense (more specifically Eli Apple). It's getting to the stage where either they are held accountable, or the Coach must go. One thing in McAdoo's favour is that the Giants are a classy and patient organisation, there were a few times Coughlin was in the firing line from the (mainly New York) media, yet they stuck by him netting two Superbowls. That said, they are also smart enough to know when the writing is on the wall: one more week of this stuff and I would not be surprised if McAdoo just happens to resign... The one thing that could save Marvin Lewis is that the Bengals have been patient before and that the whole AFC North division is struggling; it may give them the hope that they can bounce back to win the division next year (like they have before after a sub-par season). The team under Lewis has always been undisciplined, the latest ejections/suspensions should be no surprise. It also doesn't exactly help that Dalton is having just about the worst season in his career, if Lewis does stick around don't be surprised if they pull the trigger at Quarterback... Hue Jackson has no excuses and no leeway. Despite starting at a low ceiling the Browns are still finding a way to regress under his leadership. They showed a bit of fight today, and still managed to lose - if they start getting thrashed he will be gone quicker than you can say "it was about time" Another coach who should be under the spotlight is John Fox of the Bears. That was a clueless challenge today which virtually cost them the game. It's also pretty obvious that the GM/recruiting guys at the Bears do not exactly see eye-to-eye with him considering they seemingly draft players without his knowledge/against his wishes. It's unlikely, but it would not exactly be surprising if he is the first coach fired this season either. Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: masterfins on November 13, 2017, 01:05:22 pm Another coach who should be under the spotlight is John Fox of the Bears. That was a clueless challenge today which virtually cost them the game. It's also pretty obvious that the GM/recruiting guys at the Bears do not exactly see eye-to-eye with him considering they seemingly draft players without his knowledge/against his wishes. It's unlikely, but it would not exactly be surprising if he is the first coach fired this season either. That was a regrettable challenge call, I wonder what his guys in the booth said before hand, if anything. Fox seems to rub management the wrong way, like in Denver, however I thought the Bears were playing better than expected this season. Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: masterfins on November 13, 2017, 07:02:03 pm Another poor coach seems to be Chuck Pagano. The team seemed to play better the other year when he was out for cancer treatments. Indy just seems to underperform, although like the Dolphins and the Giants they have not gotten a decent O-line to protect their QB.
Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: masterfins on December 04, 2017, 12:47:55 pm And the first victim of the year is McAdoo (along with GM Reese). Along with the Dolphins, Colts, and a handful of other teams, failure to fix repetitive O-line problems just kills a teams offensive performance.
Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 04, 2017, 08:56:37 pm I feel my coach is safe.
Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 02, 2018, 12:32:38 am Black Monday comes around again:
Pagano fired, Caldwell fired, Fox fired, Del Rio fired, Arians retired, Lewis has one foot out the door... That's just the head coaches :o Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: bsmooth on January 02, 2018, 02:12:42 am Black Monday comes around again: Pagano fired, Caldwell fired, Fox fired, Del Rio fired, Arians retired, Lewis has one foot out the door... That's just the head coaches :o You forgot McAdoo Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 02, 2018, 05:30:54 am You forgot McAdoo I deliberately left him out as that was well before Black Monday. :P Technically Pagano was before Monday too, but as it was right after the season finished I thought it was close enough to lump it in with the Black Monday bunch. :D The media is now speculating Lewis will stay, the drawn out contract negotiations are in line with previous years and Brown is always reluctant to big changes. It all comes down to Lewis wanting more control over the personnel decisions and if Brown will hand it over - this one could go either way folks. Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: BuccaneerBrad on January 02, 2018, 10:54:58 am I'm surprised Hue Jackson isn't on this list. An 0-16 record is certainly just cause for a firing.
Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: CF DolFan on January 02, 2018, 11:02:04 am 0-16? The guy is 1-31 in the last two years. That is CRAZY bad!! :o
Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: Dolphster on January 02, 2018, 01:28:24 pm You've got to be really well liked by the front office to go 1 - 31 and still have your job.
Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: Baba Booey on January 02, 2018, 05:17:41 pm When they hired Hue they told him they were blowing it up, stockpiling picks, and going with an ultra youth movement. The ownership told him this was going to happen so to fire him wouldn't have been fair and the owner is doing the right thing by Hue.
They literally ripped every talented player not named Joe Thomas from that roster, no coach could have won there Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: Spider-Dan on January 02, 2018, 05:46:48 pm Out of the 8 non-interim coaches CLE has has since returning - Chris Palmer, Butch Davis, Romeo Crennel, Eric Mangini, Pat Shurmur, Rob Chudzinki, Mike Pettine, and Hue Jackson - only 3 (including Jackson) have been brought back for a third year. At some point, you have to stop the carousel, though 0-16 seems a particularly unsavory time to do so.
Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 03, 2018, 12:45:56 am You've got to be really well liked by the front office to go 1 - 31 and still have your job. That's the sort of scenario where we would joke the coach must have some compromising photos of the owner with a goat to still be around... :o ??? Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: CF DolFan on January 03, 2018, 09:55:02 am Out of the 8 non-interim coaches CLE has has since returning - Chris Palmer, Butch Davis, Romeo Crennel, Eric Mangini, Pat Shurmur, Rob Chudzinki, Mike Pettine, and Hue Jackson - only 3 (including Jackson) have been brought back for a third year. At some point, you have to stop the carousel, though 0-16 seems a particularly unsavory time to do so. Like I said ... 1-31 makes it even worse. It's hard to believe anyone in that locker room believes in him as "the guy" to lead the team. 0-6 and Dolphins players had started to quit on Cameron. Hard to believe they didn't just reset the whole thing ... if for nothing else but to have a clean start. Title: Re: Coaches on the Hot Seat (Week #10) Post by: Baba Booey on January 03, 2018, 05:30:40 pm Thing with Cleveland is if they had a "decent" QB, they would have won 6 or so games this year. There defense is ok and solid. Their o-line and running game is decent. They legit don't have a QB. So if they give Hue anyone next year at QB who is just a decent player, they will win a few games. If the new GM they got from KC can bring Alex Smith to Cleveland, they will win a handful of games next year and be like 5-11 or 6-10.
Although it would be such Browns thing to do to open 2018 like 0-3 and then fire Hue Jackson then.....lol |