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Now that the Texans shit themselves in Kansas City, our draft order is final. We were very unlucky this year with these two teams having so many one score wins, could've really had 3 Top 15 picks in this draft but it is what it is. Onward and upward.

Would have been nice if HOU had lost last weekend (BUF shit themselves more), but no too bummed about it.  I believe, from what my kid said, we have 5 picks in the 1st 56 picks of the draft?  I love that, almost 1 pick for 11 picks

Hopefully, our talent evaluation is top-notch in April.

Frankly we need to draft better this coming season than we did last year.  Outside of round 1, it wasn't a good draft.  

Any rebuilding team needs to nail their draft. If we whiff on this draft and free agency then it's another decade of darkness at the very least. It's just easier to do well with your 1st rounder than your 5th rounder so we are in a good position thanks to the stupidity of the Texans. I think their pick next year will be in the #15 range.

The only straight up bust was Prince, everyone else was okay or better.  Have to give credit for finding Preston Williams, Laird and Neeham as undrafted free agents too.

Your second round pick was a bust, too.

I'll say he's a bust if he can't get on the field next season.  Like I've said, he didn't lose his rocket arm, but if he can speed up his decision making he could still be good.  Premature to say he's a bust, although it isn't looking good for him.  Sitting for a year may have helped him out.

Appears to be so but it's hard to say when they wouldn't even let him play. It's obvious that Flores just wanted to win as many games as possible this season so he didn't even afford Rosen to learn on the job. Not looking great for Rosen's future but he still can make something of himself in this league if he is allowed to play.

This isn't flag football where kids are "allowed " to play.  If Rosen doesn't earn it he stays on the bench.

It was a total rebuilding season, we played tons of kids who didn't "earn" anything. You just play them so they get reps and see if they can amount to everyday contributors. Rosen should've been no different, or at least for more than 3 games. You give more of a leash for a player you spent a 2nd rounder on.

Who played just to get reps?  By that who played while a more capable vet sat on the bench? 

Seriously Edge ... I typically agree with you but I think you are crazy about Rosen. The truth is no one has seen enough to give him another shot. From what I hear if it wasn't for the front office he wouldn't have gotten the first one.

I'm not saying that he is the answer, but if you are going to blow a 2nd rounder on a QB and you need a franchise QB, would it have really killed to have Rosen start at least 6 games before officially pulling the plug? He had one bad game, one okay game and one horrendous game. We lost the next few games with Fitzpatrick anyway. I just don't like any lingering thoughts that he could've been something. We already got that with Tannehill this season.

I would say quite a few people just based on the fact that this was a rebuilding year. We had a bunch of undrafted free agents and misfit toys who played when we could've spent a little money and gotten better veterans on the market. I'm glad we didn't as I was glad we found a few decent players that are young and cheap.

That is different.  Not talking about using cap space to bring someone in or trading.  Talking about benching a guy on the roster that the coach feels give the team the bet chance of a win in favor of giving a weaker player experience.

Hard to watch Burrow and not want us to throw everything at Cincy to get him. I keep telling myself Jameis Winston, Cam Newton, Matt Leinart, and Danny Wuerffel looked pretty good too. Oh well ...  the guessing game continues.

I really want Burrows too, but not at the risk of draft capital when Tua is just as good (although with injury concerns).  I did a mock draft simulator yesterday, and no QB was taken until Dolphins at 5, so who know what could happen on draft day.  Burrows a Dolphin?  Maybe, but doubtfully.

I know but we have so many holes that the astronomical cost isn't worth it. Cincy wants him so you have to pay for the #1 pick AND for Cincy to forgo their franchise QB. In all honesty, we're talking all of our 2020 1st Rounders and probably next year's too plus some other stuff.

It's also hard to watch him and realize that we won 5 games by a combined 24 points and we wouldn't really be a worse team if we went 24 points in the other direction.

Who says Cincy will take Burrows?  They can say one thing and do another.  In the end it all depends on what their GM wants; he can be just as much in love with Tua and take him knowing they don't need to play Tua in 2020.  Or, Cincy knows they suck and could put off picking a QB until next year.  Cincy is in Ohio, look at the crazy QB decisions Cleveland has made in the last 5 years.

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True. His presence on the field and command of that offense is impressive.  HOWEVER, NFL defenses and schemes are definitely notches above CFB.

My boy says he is very hesitant for guys who have one breakout season and then go to the NFL right from ther.  I personally hope he does well cause I hate to see the "bust" title attached to someone, especially going if a team that doesn't provide him with the support (ie, good coaching, good OL, etc)

He can throw the ball for sure.

Un-drafted isn't drafted. 

Miami HAS to hit on close to everyone in the first four rounds next season to turn this around.

Absolutely, we need starters across both lines. Can't get a Pro Bowler out of every spot but every first round pick has to have an impact in 2020 or the future in the case of Tua who will probably sit most of 2020 for us if we draft him.

Disagree. Irrelevant. If you miss on a few draft picks but find a superstar UDFA it makes up for it.  Cameron Wake was a good pick up for you.  Doesn't matter that you didn't draft him. 

That has more to do with luck than anything else. They chose to come to you and try out. I completely agree with Maine. We failed at identifying talent and selecting them and that's where we have all our bullets for our future.

Both high round drafts and late rounds/UDFA involve luck and skill.  And the ability to be better than other teams is critical to a successful NFL team.

First and second round drafting is not about finding great players as much as it is about avoiding bad players. 

The Colts assessment of Peyton Manning wasn’t the important factor.  What was significant was that they knew to avoid Leaf.

OTOH, the Cowboys getting Romo was about seeing potential nobody else saw and capitalizing on it. 

Granted you should have a better success rate with first round draft picks than UDFA.  But being better than other teams at finding the hidden gems is just as important as solid drafting.  Also finding an all-pro UDFA  makes up for a first round bust.

For once I agree with the Patriots fan

I would say you pretty much hit the nail on the head.   I saw an interview once where it was said that the Colts were actually enamored with Leaf, but he didn't want to play there and blew them off at the combine interview and pissed them off.  Who knows if the story is true or not.   But I agree with everything else you said. 

I did my first mock draft on draftnetwork.com and this was the first round. They had Chase Young going first which left both Burrow and Tua for us at 5. I took Joe Burrow at 5, A.J. Epenesa from Iowa at 18, and OT Andrew Thomas from Georgia at 26.

Man I'd be pretty happy if that played out.
 

I know the Bengals are a poorly run franchise but they're not THAT poorly run where they pass on Burrow. Even if by some miracle they did, some team would trade up with the Skins to take him.