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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Dolphins are gauging the price to trade up for the No. 3 overall pick for an offensive tackle.

The nonsense is coming hot and heavy now, might as well make it's own thread for it. The idea that we want to trade up to #3 is very reasonable. However, the idea we will do that for an OT when we will probabyl have first crack at one at #5 if we don't want a QB? Hysterical. Might as well say we will draft a punter.

I would spend a 7th round pick on Punter Braden Mann from Texas A&M and cut Haack as a salary move and upgrade at Punter.  Oh wait, that isn't a BS rumor.  That is just something that I would actually do.  ;D

I agree with the OP's take on the Fins moving up to #3 for an OT though. 

Why move up to #3 to grab an OT when you are at #5 and odds are have the first crack at any of them? Redskins going with Chase, Lions going for the CB and Giants going for Simmons. MAYBE they take Andrew Thomas but if so, select one of the other 3 studs. This of course is assuming we have no plans to improve from our 38 year old journeymen QB.

Yeah, this trade up for an OT talk is nonsense.  There are 4 almost sure fire franchise tackles in this draft, with many others as possible franchise tackles with the right coaching.  To give up precious draft capital for any of those OTs is smokescreen to the max.

What they may be trying to do is move up to #3 without giving up #5 which will get them a franchise OT and a QB.  That I can see them doing.  

I assume the price for that is the 18th and 26th pick. That's a steep price for the best LT when you can still get a franchise LT at #18 or maybe even McKinney at Safety with 18. If we can get the #3 pick with or 26th pick and a 2nd rounder, then maybe it's worth it. All depends on price.....and hoping that the Giants don't take him at #4. We would have to take Tua at #3 just to play it safe, can't pick Thomas at #3 and then the Giants trade down with the Chargers and we're screwed.

Moving to #3 to take an offensive tackle would have to be considered Trubisky-like in its idiocy...

It's only okay if we somehow keep the 5th pick and only lose our 18th and maybe a late 2nd rounder, but the Lions would be dumb to take that. So, this is why it's nonsense.

Yes, I was agreeing with you that they should not move up to #3 in order to take an OT when they will have one of the top 2 available to them at #5 and that it was a ludicrous draft rumor that they would do that. 

This is what they are supposedly doing. The other flip to this is possibly packaging the 3 & 5 to Cincy.

The other big rumor is Miami is looking to trade for Joe Thuney from New England. He is under the franchise tag but the Dolphins would be looking to sign him.

Either way Miami is heavy into the rumors today.

If we get the 3 and 5, I would keep them. That's way too steep a price to pay for Burrow. While the 3 & 5 would be awesome, I would be terrified of picking Thomas first in case some team trades with the Giants for Tua, then what do we do? On the flip side, you pick Tua first to secure him and there is a decent chance the Giants pick Thomas. Then what? Do we love any of the o0ther OL guys so much more than who we could've gotten at 18?

Probably not a B.S. rumor here but Adam Scjefter is reporting that Miami has tried in recent weeks to get the #1 pick from Cincinnati and the Bengals are basically refusing. So, that should be that. I don't see any team with even the ammo to make an offer better than ours so Cincy is staying put.

There isn't a tackle worth a top-5 pick in this class, imo... Miami would be better off staying where they are, grabbing Tua at 5 and then whichever of the tackles slips to #18...and yes, at least one of the top-5 OTs will slide to #18.

Even if they don't, we can grab McKinney at 18 and still get a good Tackle at 26.

Most drafts have the LTs going quick since they are a typically a solid pick. The top few are predicted to be elite and then there is a large drop off.

Based on that writer's opinion, at least...  I think folks are sleeping a little bit on guys like Ezra Cleveland and Isaiah Wilson, who, imo, are a half notch below the big-5 this year.

Bottom line...if Miami really wants to add quality O-line in this draft, they can, and they really don't have to sacrifice the QB they like (whomsoever that may be) to get it.

This was never going to happen, Miami is not trading up for an LT without getting a QB, that's just pure nonsense. If anything, they're also trying to acquire the #3 pick which I am against since it would cost us our 2 extra first rounders and then some. Thomas is better than whoever we can get at 18 or 26, but not so much better he is worth all of that draft capital. Let's not be Bill O'Brien over here.

Really looking forward to the draft. Mainly the Dolphins' picks, of course, but also how it will work out technically. I wouldn't be the least surprised if the whole thing breaks down and everything gets delayed.

In somewhat draft related news, the Dolphins cut 5 players I've never heard about: LB Jake Carlock, LB/DE Jamal Davis II, WR Andy Jones, WR Terry Wright, CB Linden Stephens. and DT Gerald Willis.

Okay, I kinda remember Jamal Davis from one of the horrible early games last season Willis rings a vague bell as well. (The Packers picked up both.)

They've been doing mock drafts for awhile now under the new system, so I think it should run smoothly. It won't be very technical, just basically pick the player you want to draft and hit send. I think there are backups in place too like if you miss your 5 minute window the league will make sure it wasn't a technical error. Or, if you draft a punter 13th overall they may give you a ring and make sure you actually meant to destroy your franchise.

As long as Miami gets Tua at 5 or doesn't trade away the world to move up and get him, I will enjoy the rest of the draft.

Pro Football Talks' Mike Florio reports the Dolphins are attempting to acquire the No. 3 pick in order to make the Bengals a Godfather offer for the No. 1 pick.

I am 1000% against this. To acquire the #3 pick in the draft would cost us the 18th, 26th and 39th pick at the minimum. We are going to give the Bengals 4 1st rounders and multiple 2nd rounders for one guy when we have so many holes? Absolutely not, terrible idea. Going to make the Bengals a contender overnight with that draft haul, I hope this is just smoke.

What if they got the #3 pick and got Isiah Simmons? I'm on board with that depending upon the pricetag. I agree that getting the 1st pick is too high of a price to pay.

We need a tackle more than a hybrid defensive player and we won't be able to get one of the better ones if we move up to #3 for Simmons. The best plan is to really stay where we are and have backups for each pick. I don't think any GM wants to put his career on the line for Tua unless the Lions and Giants do something insanely dumb and move down 10 spots for just a 2nd rounder.

I just can't wait for tonight to start already so I can stop hearing reporters saying "My sources are telling me....." which translates to "Here is some BS that I just made up in the hopes that I get more air time."   

Willis was the five star Gators transfer to the Hurricanes. Played well with Miami and was projected to be a third round pick entering last year's draft. Went undrafted and ended up with Miami.

Would it be unacceptable if Miami did a trade down from #5 to #12 and drafted Jerry Jeudy or Henry Ruggs III?

Some of the BS reporting is starting to repeat itself again:

Trading for Burrows is heating up again.  Miami trying to acquire 3 and 5 and trade it to Cinci for 1 overall in a "Godfather" trade.

Miami drafting Tua is looking unlikely

Miami is trading up to 3 for Andrew Thomas

That would be unacceptable.  WR is a luxury right now for Miami.

Would either one be willing to play QB?

Trading up to 3 for Thomas is perhaps the most laughable smokescreen we have put out so far. To think we would sacrifice that so many first rounders and picks just to draft a Tackle in a drfat loaded with them is so insane I don't know why any beat writer even bothered to report our lies.

For some reason that comment reminds me of when the Dolphins said they didn't just draft Ted Ginn, they drafted the entire Ginn family.   His Aunt Cora was a beast in press man to man coverage. 

You got an iced-coffee nostril snort on that one...very nice.

Omar just said to Crowder and Hochman that all signs he's hearing point to them going offensive line and drafting a QB in the second or third round. Said Flores and "the Patriot way" is running this draft. I post this so we can look back and see. For the record Omar has been on the Tua bandwagon for quite some time and claims he prays he is wrong but that's what he is seeing.

Other local writers are now throwing out Jordon Love as the possible pick. SMH

These better be smoke screens because "the Patriot way" only works when you have TOM FUCKING BRADY as your QB.