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Title: Xavien Howard is the lone Dolphin selected to the Pro Bowl
Post by: Spider-Dan on December 21, 2020, 11:35:27 pm
Obviously X deserved it.  Is there an argument for anyone else?

Ogbah is third in the AFC in sacks.   Sanders has the second most FGs made in the league, but I think his two misses in the last two weeks killed his shot.


Title: Re: Xavien Howard is the lone Dolphin selected to the Pro Bowl
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 22, 2020, 08:26:57 am
I would've added Ogbah or Sanders but when you have been bad for so long, deserving players don't get noticed as much.

Howard was the only slam dunk to me.


Title: Re: Xavien Howard is the lone Dolphin selected to the Pro Bowl
Post by: Dave Gray on December 22, 2020, 01:45:57 pm
Sanders came to mind, but that's kinda it.


Title: Re: Xavien Howard is the lone Dolphin selected to the Pro Bowl
Post by: Tenshot13 on December 22, 2020, 01:56:23 pm
I heard our punter won the fan vote, but they chose the New England guy instead.


Title: Re: Xavien Howard is the lone Dolphin selected to the Pro Bowl
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on December 23, 2020, 07:30:15 am
Xavien was the most confident and obvious choice from the team for the year, as highlighted by the first team choice status - easily best in the AFC, and arguably NFL this year.

Sanders was probably slotted in until the last couple of weeks, those misses were the difference.

Ogbah was excellent, and maybe a little unlucky - with Wilkins being double teamed every play it gave him the opportunities and he well and truly took them. I guess an argument could have been made for Wilkins too under the circumstances, but as it turns out neither got the nod.

Parker may have been the other roughy for a Pro Bowl spot - he will probably play the actual game when somebody inevitably drops out.


Title: Re: Xavien Howard is the lone Dolphin selected to the Pro Bowl
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on December 23, 2020, 09:32:17 am
Parker may have been the other roughy for a Pro Bowl spot - he will probably play the actual game when somebody inevitably drops out.

Nobody is going to drop out because they are not going to have a Pro Bowl this year.  They are just picking the rosters for the sake of recognizing players and giving out bonuses. 


Title: Re: Xavien Howard is the lone Dolphin selected to the Pro Bowl
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 23, 2020, 09:56:38 am
Nobody is going to drop out because they are not going to have a Pro Bowl this year.  They are just picking the rosters for the sake of recognizing players and giving out bonuses. 

The Pro Bowl is such a joke that no one cares about, we should probably just keep it this way. Fly these guys to Honolulu for a vacation as a reward but leave it at that.


Title: Re: Xavien Howard is the lone Dolphin selected to the Pro Bowl
Post by: CF DolFan on December 23, 2020, 10:11:25 am
I’m not surprised. It will take a couple of years before the casual fans know Miami’s big players. X is at the top of the stat board so he’s a little easier. Hell ... they even brought him up during the Pittsburgh- Cincy Monday night game.


Title: Re: Xavien Howard is the lone Dolphin selected to the Pro Bowl
Post by: Pappy13 on December 23, 2020, 10:15:21 am
The problem with the Pro Bowl election is never who didn't get in that should have, the problem is always with who got in that shouldn't have. 9 times out of 10 if someone shouldn't have gotten in it's because they have been voted in multiple times already and just gets in on name alone despite the year they are having. I haven't looked at this year's roster but I'll bet you can find one or 2 in that category, happens every year.


Title: Re: Xavien Howard is the lone Dolphin selected to the Pro Bowl
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 23, 2020, 01:05:03 pm
The problem with the Pro Bowl election is never who didn't get in that should have, the problem is always with who got in that shouldn't have. 9 times out of 10 if someone shouldn't have gotten in it's because they have been voted in multiple times already and just gets in on name alone despite the year they are having. I haven't looked at this year's roster but I'll bet you can find one or 2 in that category, happens every year.

Bill Parcels said something to the affect of “it takes most guys three years too long to get selected and the stay 3 years longer than they should “.


Title: Re: Xavien Howard is the lone Dolphin selected to the Pro Bowl
Post by: David Fulcher on December 25, 2020, 04:26:27 am
Ogbah should've made it over Frank Clark from KC, for sure, from what I've read.  Kinda weird, too, though he made his hay with the 'Hawks and certainly was good last year as well, but I wouldn't necessarily consider Frank Clark a "household" name".  I guess more than Ogbah, though, but yeah, definitely would seem that Ogbah is having a better season statistically than Clark, and Miami's defense overall better than KC's (not positive on the advanced stats-front, but from a basic #'s game, esp. for the PA/game, which I consider more important than YA/game as well, and pretty certain Flores and Boyer feel the same way as well).

I think Sanders indeed screwed himself the last 2 weeks with consecutive misses unfortunately, which is crappy luck for him because he was so money the first 12 weeks with just the 1 miss, that itself seemed to be a bad snap and/or hold that he had to adjust for and seemed to mess up his follow through, or rushed it one, off the top of my head.  But even I was a little miffed when he missed that damn one before halftime against NE that was well within his typical range even at 50+.  I even think Haack has an argument on AFC side for punter (tons of kicks downed inside the 20 and even 10, with very few touchbacks), though I know that Charles Davis and the other dude for CBS for Sunday's game really enjoyed talking the Patsies' punter up a lot.

But I'd say Ogbah was the obvious slight to me.  Also, since we're talking about the Pats--other than name recognition, how the hell they end up with 3 (or was it 4??!) Pro Bowlers??  Bunch'a hogwash, I feel like they're even worse than their record, but maybe it's b/c it's just been so long since they've actually been bad, that their level of current mediocrity/badness gets exaggerated in my own mind.   ;D  I'll take it, though!! 
I feel like Matthew Slater could play the minimal required games every season and he'd still somehow get voted to the PB squad every season....


Title: Re: Xavien Howard is the lone Dolphin selected to the Pro Bowl
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on December 30, 2020, 09:54:37 pm
Parker may have been the other roughy for a Pro Bowl spot - he will probably play the actual game when somebody inevitably drops out.

Nobody is going to drop out because they are not going to have a Pro Bowl this year.  They are just picking the rosters for the sake of recognizing players and giving out bonuses. 

Haha, I keep on forgetting how things have changed this year. F*cking Covid!


Title: Re: Xavien Howard is the lone Dolphin selected to the Pro Bowl
Post by: Dolphster on December 31, 2020, 07:24:20 am
Bill Parcels said something to the affect of “it takes most guys three years too long to get selected and the stay 3 years longer than they should “.

That is a pretty accurate statement in most cases.