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Title: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Dolphster on August 03, 2021, 06:32:42 pm
Given the news coming out of the New York Attorney General's office today, you would think that Cuomo and Trump would get along a lot better since they seem to share a particular interest in the "hobby" of sexual molestation.  As I have said here many times, politicians of the two parties are just opposite sides of the same slimy coin. 


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: pondwater on August 03, 2021, 06:53:46 pm
Given the news coming out of the New York Attorney General's office today, you would think that Cuomo and Trump would get along a lot better since they seem to share a particular interest in the "hobby" of sexual molestation.  As I have said here many times, politicians of the two parties are just opposite sides of the same slimy coin.  
In b4 the "it's just not the same" crowd shows up with their delusional world views and cornball opinions.


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 03, 2021, 07:53:06 pm
Given the news coming out of the New York Attorney General's office today, you would think that Cuomo and Trump would get along a lot better since they seem to share a particular interest in the "hobby" of sexual molestation.  As I have said here many times, politicians of the two parties are just opposite sides of the same slimy coin. 

Not a huge difference between Trump and Cuomo.  Both are scumbags that belong in jail.

However, huge difference between how the democrats are reacting to Cuomo and how republicans reacted to Trump. 


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Dave Gray on August 03, 2021, 08:03:54 pm
Yeah, Cuomo sounds like a real bully and shithead from not just this story, but also from what I've heard before.


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Dolphster on August 03, 2021, 10:05:53 pm
Not a huge difference between Trump and Cuomo.  Both are scumbags that belong in jail.

However, huge difference between how the democrats are reacting to Cuomo and how republicans reacted to Trump. 

I don't say this often, but i agree with you.  I've not heard any Democrats (yet) trying to make excuses for Cuomo.  And I was disappointed in how many Republicans tried to victim shame and generally downplay some of Trump's sexual assaults.


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 04, 2021, 03:30:27 am
While I don't personally support Cuomo and I didn't vote for him in the gubernatorial primary, I agree with his policies.  And I have to say that it is personally satisfying to see someone finally fight back against the conservatives that have constantly attacked us on the left for the last few years.

I would say the difference between the liberal response to Cuomo and the conservative response to Trump should be instructive, but it's not instructive at all because it is the most boring and predictable outcome ever.


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: CF DolFan on August 04, 2021, 03:31:53 pm
I don't say this often, but i agree with you.  I've not heard any Democrats (yet) trying to make excuses for Cuomo.  And I was disappointed in how many Republicans tried to victim shame and generally downplay some of Trump's sexual assaults.
Democrats are literally making a living off of going after masculine men with no excuses. The progressives eat it up. See Al Franken as an example of them throwing a guy under the bus just because. He's not even in my political party and I don't think there is any way he should have been pushed to step down.


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Sunstroke on August 04, 2021, 03:35:26 pm
Democrats are literally making a living off of going after masculine men with no excuses.

Sexual harassment, in your opinion, is what makes up masculinity?

Do any females actually understand your position on this?





Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 04, 2021, 04:38:20 pm
Democrats are literally making a living off of going after masculine men with no excuses. The progressives eat it up. See Al Franken as an example of them throwing a guy under the bus just because. He's not even in my political party and I don't think there is any way he should have been pushed to step down.
Wow, that's a surprising take.  But points for consistency with your new world view, at least!

I guess the old saying is true: if you pretend to believe something for long enough, you eventually believe it genuinely.  I just never thought I'd see the day when you apply The Trump Standard to politicians in the Democrat Party.


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Dolphster on August 04, 2021, 04:43:46 pm
Democrats are literally making a living off of going after masculine men with no excuses. The progressives eat it up. See Al Franken as an example of them throwing a guy under the bus just because. He's not even in my political party and I don't think there is any way he should have been pushed to step down.

I assume that I'm not interpreting your comment correctly.  So please do correct me if I'm wrong.  But that reads as if you are equating molesting/sexual assault of women with masculinity.  

And to say that Al Franken was thrown under a bus "just because" is hopefully made because you just don't know about his story.  False accusations can always be made, but the reason he resigned was because it is pretty hard to refute a picture of him looking at the camera and smirking a "look at what I'm getting away with" smile while he is grabbing the tits of a sleeping woman on a plane.  That is essentially the same thing that conservative talk show host Leann Tweeden accused him of doing to her BEFORE that picture was ever made public.  Do you think that is just a guy being masculine?  I always gauge my own reaction to things by using the "how would I feel if this was my daughter/son/wife.  So let me ask you, if your daughter or wife that was sleeping on the plane and being molested while sleeping, would you still consider it him just being masculine and that he shouldn't have been "thrown under the bus" for what he did?

If I am completely misunderstanding your post, then I apologize.  But it really reads badly.  


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 04, 2021, 04:57:20 pm
locker room antics, boys being boys, etc.

What kind of a country do we live in when honest, genuine masculinity like this is somehow criminalized?

(https://images.thestar.com/tXvCmLyM-t7P9vSLEN8sXxCCz8c=/1086x1022/smart/filters:cb(1614856280984)/https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/opinion/star-columnists/2021/03/02/cuomo-photo-the-metoo-that-i-and-millions-of-other-women-have-put-up-with-forever/commo.jpg)


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 04, 2021, 06:06:03 pm
Okay, well them.  At least CF is consistent, that is more than I can say for most republicans who defend Trump but attack Cuomo. 

Let’s just call Trump, Cuomo, Frankin, Gaetz, Hasterd, etc the pro sexual predators caucus.


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 04, 2021, 06:48:11 pm
At least CF is consistent, that is more than I can say for most republicans who defend Trump but attack Cuomo.
There is also another aspect to this.  I'm sure you've seen me mention this saying before:

Today's conservatism is the opposite of what liberals want today: updated daily.

So since liberals are united in calling for Cuomo's resignation...


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Dave Gray on August 05, 2021, 11:03:52 am
I agree with CF insofar that I don't put Franken in this camp.  I think he was done dirty.


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Dolphster on August 05, 2021, 11:31:00 am

Let’s just call Trump, Cuomo, Frankin, Gaetz, Hasterd, etc the pro sexual predators caucus.

I am picturing a political debate.
Moderator:  Candidate A, what is your stance on sexual harassment?"
Candidate A:   I'm all in favor of it. 


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 05, 2021, 02:19:35 pm
I am picturing a political debate.
Moderator:  Candidate A, what is your stance on sexual harassment?"
Candidate A:   I'm all in favor of it. 

Are you willing to confirm a S.Ct justice with serious allegations of sexual harassment, because you agree with him politically? 



Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Sunstroke on August 05, 2021, 02:36:14 pm
I am picturing a political debate.
Moderator:  Candidate A, what is your stance on sexual harassment?"
Candidate A:   I'm all in favor of it. 

Moderator:  Candidate B, what is your stance on sexual harassment?"
Candidate B: Usually right behind her, knees slightly bent...



Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Dolphster on August 05, 2021, 02:50:39 pm
Are you willing to confirm a S.Ct justice with serious allegations of sexual harassment, because you agree with him politically?  

I'm a little confused by your asking me that question.  I was taking your comment about the "pro sexual predators caucus" and making a joke about what the debate would sound like with a candidate from the "pro sexual harassment caucus"

But to answer your question, given the exact wording of your question being "serious allegations", I am going to take that as meaning serious equates to enough specific information being available to give the allegations credence and the fact that you said allegations plural meaning that there are multiple credible allegations.  So under those parameters, I would definitely not be willing to confirm a Supreme Court justice until the investigative process ran it's course.  Regardless of whether I agreed with him politically or not.  But the accusations would have to have some face value merit because it is certainly not beyond the scope of possibility for opponents of a Supreme Court nominee to find someone willing to make false allegations in order to try to prevent the nominee from moving forward in the process.  Of course what  constitutes "face value merit" could get into some gray areas.  

I should probably add that I don't look at the political beliefs of Supreme Court nominees nearly as much as I look at their documented history of interpreting laws in a manner which shows an allegiance to intent of the law that far exceeds their own political beliefs.  Ideally, I want a Supreme Court justice to be apolitical in that they don't make rulings based on political philosophy, but on case law and unbiased consideration of the case before them.


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Dolphster on August 05, 2021, 02:51:57 pm
Moderator:  Candidate B, what is your stance on sexual harassment?"
Candidate B: Usually right behind her, knees slightly bent...



We should team up to write Saturday Night Live skits.  Especially since the show hasn't been funny in 30 years (yeah, I'm one of those SNL sucks now people).


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Sunstroke on August 05, 2021, 03:00:18 pm
We should team up to write Saturday Night Live skits.  Especially since the show hasn't been funny in 30 years (yeah, I'm one of those SNL sucks now people).

I  was never a big SNL fan. Actually, the last time I watched a full SNL show, I'm pretty sure Belushi was involved.   ;)




Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on August 05, 2021, 03:24:25 pm
I  was never a big SNL fan. Actually, the last time I watched a full SNL show, I'm pretty sure Belushi was involved.   ;)

John or Jim?   If John, you definitely go way way back.   I remember the Dolphins drafting a tackle that looked almost exactly like him.  Unfortunately said tackle didn't pan out.


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Dolphster on August 05, 2021, 03:33:52 pm
John or Jim?   If John, you definitely go way way back.   I remember the Dolphins drafting a tackle that looked almost exactly like him.  Unfortunately said tackle didn't pan out.

LOL, I would like to hear who that DT was if you can remember.  It would be pretty funny to look him up and compare.


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 05, 2021, 06:50:30 pm
I'm a little confused by your asking me that question.  I was taking your comment about the "pro sexual predators caucus" and making a joke about what the debate would sound like with a candidate from the "pro sexual harassment caucus"

But to answer your question, given the exact wording of your question being "serious allegations", I am going to take that as meaning serious equates to enough specific information being available to give the allegations credence and the fact that you said allegations plural meaning that there are multiple credible allegations.  So under those parameters, I would definitely not be willing to confirm a Supreme Court justice until the investigative process ran it's course.  Regardless of whether I agreed with him politically or not.  But the accusations would have to have some face value merit because it is certainly not beyond the scope of possibility for opponents of a Supreme Court nominee to find someone willing to make false allegations in order to try to prevent the nominee from moving forward in the process.  Of course what  constitutes "face value merit" could get into some gray areas.  

I should probably add that I don't look at the political beliefs of Supreme Court nominees nearly as much as I look at their documented history of interpreting laws in a manner which shows an allegiance to intent of the law that far exceeds their own political beliefs.  Ideally, I want a Supreme Court justice to be apolitical in that they don't make rulings based on political philosophy, but on case law and unbiased consideration of the case before them.

Basically I was implying that anyone who voted to confirm Kavanaugh is a member of the pro-sexual harassment caucus.  That would be the moderator’s question, not a question to you.


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Phishfan on August 05, 2021, 07:00:26 pm
LOL, I would like to hear who that DT was if you can remember.  It would be pretty funny to look him up and compare.

He was an offensive tackle. I can't remember his name because I kept referring to him as Bluto. As Artie said, the guy didn't pan out. Probably never find him without the name. Google wasn't helping me.


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: pondwater on August 05, 2021, 07:51:11 pm
Basically I was implying that anyone who voted to confirm Kavanaugh is a member of the pro-sexual harassment caucus.
Those weren't anywhere close to credible allegations. Anyone who thinks they were is retarded LMAO


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Dolphster on August 06, 2021, 07:24:45 am
Basically I was implying that anyone who voted to confirm Kavanaugh is a member of the pro-sexual harassment caucus.

Ah, okay.  Now I understand.  Thanks for clarifying. 


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on August 06, 2021, 09:47:04 am
LOL, I would like to hear who that DT was if you can remember.  It would be pretty funny to look him up and compare.

He was an offensive tackle. I can't remember his name because I kept referring to him as Bluto. As Artie said, the guy didn't pan out. Probably never find him without the name. Google wasn't helping me.

Joe Toledo was his name.  I remember reading in the Miami Herald from one of the Dolphins beat writers that he had a striking resemblance to John Belushi.  I think it was in 2007.


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Sunstroke on August 06, 2021, 10:01:14 am
^^^ I was a big Joe Toledo fan when we drafted him...really thought he could be pretty good. I never noticed it before, but maybe a little similarity in coloration and the chubby cheek action.


(https://phinphanatic.com/files/2007/08/37911.jpg)


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Dolphster on August 06, 2021, 10:59:17 am
Ha, I remembered the name when I read it.  But I don't really recall anything about him as a player. 


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 10, 2021, 04:49:56 pm
And Cuomo is out.
Nice that we have actual standards of behavior on the left.

It will be fun to note how many conservatives currently wet with crocodile tears about the death of masculinity were also screaming about Joe Biden holding a child's shoulders at a public ceremony.


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Tenshot13 on August 10, 2021, 05:18:53 pm
And Cuomo is out.
Nice that we have actual standards of behavior on the left.

It will be fun to note how many conservatives currently wet with crocodile tears about the death of masculinity were also screaming about Joe Biden holding a child's shoulders at a public ceremony.
You mean pinch a little girl's nipple

https://youtu.be/uSRqaO6DXcA (https://youtu.be/uSRqaO6DXcA)


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: Dolphster on August 10, 2021, 10:35:57 pm
And Cuomo is out.
Nice that we have actual standards of behavior on the left.

It will be fun to note how many conservatives currently wet with crocodile tears about the death of masculinity were also screaming about Joe Biden holding a child's shoulders at a public ceremony.

You don't see me crying about the death of masculinity.  Women half my age are watching me throw big weight in the gym while the girlie men their own age are adjusting their boi buns and taking selfies to see if their asses look tight enough.  The pussification of America is working out just fine for me thank you very much.  LOL


Title: Re: Cuomo/Trump
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on August 10, 2021, 10:52:12 pm
Cuomo's new theme song (sung to the Eagles Take It Easy)

Oh I'm running down the road, trying to loosen my load
I got seven women on my mind
Four who wanna sue me, two who wouldn't do me
One thinks I should do hard time