Title: South Florida Housing Market Post by: Dave Gray on February 27, 2023, 02:15:58 pm I think the solution is to disallow (or severely tax) any corporation purchasing a residential home that they aren't living in.
We have to stop looking at homes we don't live in as assets where you exploit someone else's living situation for profit. That's what apartments are for; they are zoned differently. If you want to have a home, fine. Low taxes. If you want a 2nd home, fine. More taxes. But you can't have big LLCs buying 100s of units up to flip for profit. And you can't have foreign investment of any kind, as they will crash our economy. Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: Spider-Dan on February 27, 2023, 03:26:28 pm "if you want communism, move back to California"
Sorry to say it Dave, but if you're looking for government regulation to solve your problems in Florida, you're gonna have a bad time. CA also has ridiculous housing prices, Sacramento is much more amenable to regulatory solutions than Tallahassee, and even we have problems getting new housing regulations past all the NIMBYs who want to protect their assets. Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: Dave Gray on February 27, 2023, 04:31:26 pm I don't have any faith that it will happen, but it's the solution, I think.
I'm a capitalist for the overall economy, in general. But for things like this that are required to live, like housing, we can't leave it up to the free market because people will get chewed up and spit out. You have to intervene and make it only for people who are trying to live and not for those trying to make a buck on someone else's desperation. Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: DenverFinFan on February 27, 2023, 04:43:45 pm 1. Build
2. Ban AIRBNB 3. Build some more 4. Some form of rent control Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: pondwater on February 27, 2023, 06:09:59 pm These type issues work themselves out over time. It's happening in the used car market right now. These companies are overbidding regular buyers in an already overvalued market. When the bubble eventually pops they won't be able to flip them for profit and their balance sheet will look like shit, just like Carvana. You're supposed to buy low and sell high, not the inverse. The whole business model is unsustainable over time.
Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: Phishfan on February 28, 2023, 03:03:51 am I'm pretty sure we already tax a homestead different than investment property. You need to come to the table with more Dave because you aren't really proposing anything there. How do you identify "foreign investors ".
I get your frustration but I see no solution for the problems mentioned and I think you missed some. I am a transplant but that is our biggest issue. We need to stop residents of other states moving here. Prices are inflated because demand is high. Simple economics Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: Spider-Dan on February 28, 2023, 03:14:04 am We need to stop residents of other states moving here. I know you don't literally mean this, but such an act would be highly illegal (and explicitly unconstitutional).Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: pondwater on February 28, 2023, 08:39:51 am I know you don't literally mean this, but such an act would be highly illegal (and explicitly unconstitutional). Well, I'm not sure if this would have any legal restrictions or if it would somehow be illegal. But you only get a state income tax exemption after a certain number of years as a full resident of the state. Everyone already a resident is grandfathered in at no state income tax. Everyone else pays state 10% state income tax for a specified period.But then again, I'm sure that the state government actually wants people moving here and aren't too worried about the housing bubble that will eventually pop Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: CF DolFan on February 28, 2023, 08:46:42 am But then again, I'm sure that the state government actually wants people moving here and aren't too worried about the housing bubble that will eventually pop Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: Fau Teixeira on February 28, 2023, 09:46:42 am This is one of the reasons that i moved to CT. My mortgage is less than my rent was in Boynton Beach .. it wasn't even in a fancy neighborhood or anything.
Governmental solutions can only work if there is political willingness to make it happen. Assuming that actually happens (it won't), the solution I'd see working is the following: - Tax any vacant properties at 20% of the home value / year, if it's empty for 5 years, you forfeit the house to the government. - Tax rental incomes 50% for any amount 30% over the mortgage/tax/insurance payment of the property. - Increase property tax 10% for every home after the 1st someone (or corporation) owns, you own 11 homes, you pay 100% more property taxes. Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: Brian Fein on March 01, 2023, 12:03:06 pm Corporate housing buyers are the biggest problem in my community. These companies swoop in and overbid on every property that goes up for sale, leaving people to have no choice but to rent from them. They won't stop until they own the entire community. They just sit back and collect rent. They don't care about who they rent to, they don't care about the property or community. Meanwhile, anyone who wants to buy a home for their family to live has to either overpay or find another place to live. And, the community goes to crap because they generally neglect the home and have no pride of ownership that a homeowner would.
Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: SlothVomit on March 01, 2023, 12:27:54 pm I was renting a 3br/2ba in lake worth in May 2019 for $1800/month with a buddy. I was forced to move out because by the end of my lease, May 2021, they wanted $2800/month. This was a corporate housing company that bought up half, if not more, of the community I was in. At the time I was single so living by myself was and still is impossible. I now live in a condo with my better half in WPB, but rent has nearly doubled here as well. We have decided to move north. We are scouting TN because land is cheaper and we are looking into modular homes. We just want a good chunk of land and build from there. We can't get that in south Fl. You couldn't pay me to stay here. Zero lot lines, HOA, traffic and folks here are miserable SOBs.
Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: Spider-Dan on March 01, 2023, 12:46:38 pm Zero lot lines What does this mean?Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: Fau Teixeira on March 01, 2023, 12:56:58 pm What does this mean? it's where the home wall touches the lot line .. so you have no land that you own in between you and neighbors lot Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: Spider-Dan on March 01, 2023, 01:17:43 pm Does this mean the homes touch, like row houses?
Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: Fau Teixeira on March 01, 2023, 02:39:19 pm That's one example .. another would be that a house may have a small strip of grass on one side and the neighbor house is right next to this stop of land.
so you may have windows that are about 4 feet from each other across a strip of grass (or concrete) (https://i.prcdn.co/img?regionKey=rEwZqI54wosg4XucEQXTyg%3D%3D) Title: Re: South Florida Housing Market Post by: Spider-Dan on March 01, 2023, 03:45:08 pm New housing developments in CA are similar. You have a "backyard" about the size of a small bedroom, and on one side of the house you could reach out a window and touch your neighbor's house.
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