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1) Who is to blame for it?  Is it Biden's fault for opening our borders?

2) Is this a political ploy by Biden to ensure he gets more votes in 2024?  After all, letting millions of people into this country means that they will all likely vote for him.  

This is what I am talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk4ab2QmDkA

We are literally spending billions of taxpayer money on these people to allow them not to work and get free stuff from the government.  

This leads to my question of whether Joe Biden is trying to buy votes from these people by giving them lots of free stuff.

Do you really think the borders are "open"?  Like do you believe anyone can just mosey on up to the US border and walk in without a passport or paperwork?  

What do you think is actually happening at the borders?  What "crisis" are you speaking of?  Does this include Canadian borders or do we only care about Mexicans?

It seems like you need to get your news and information from less-biased sources.

No issue is that simple.

But if you are looking for *one* person....

Ronald Reagan bears the most blame for the refugees coming from Central America.

If you are looking for modern politicians....the Republican governors that who make the problem worse with stupid stunts that appeals to the dumbest of their supporters

According to NBC ... The number of undocumented immigrant crossings at the southwest border for fiscal year 2022 topped 2.76 million, breaking the previous annual record by more than 1 million, according to Customs and Border Protection data
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/migrant-border-crossings-fiscal-year-2022-topped-276-million-breaking-rcna53517

I'd say 2.76 million is pretty "open" but maybe you have a higher number in mind? This year is looking to be more so maybe we will hit that number.

It's no secret our border lacks being secure because of Democrats. It used to not be that way but current Democrats have decided that an open border is somehow a good thing.

^^^^^^The headline and use of the data is false and misleading.

The number of people who entered the country is unknown.  The data being reported is the number of people prevented from entering the country. 

That's great! Since the numbers aren't an issue then sanctuary cities like New York, DC, Philly, and others shouldn't have any issues housing them.

Your article, not mine:

"For the 12 months ending Sept. 30, 2022, CBP stopped migrants more than 2,766,582 times, compared to 1.72 million times for fiscal 2021, the previous yearly high."

So tell me again how CBP STOPPING MIGRANTS at the border, to you, means that the border is "wide open."  Just because more people are TRYING to cross the border doesn't mean that they are able to.  Stopping people from coming in is the direct opposite of what you're claiming it to be.  In fact, i'd say that they STOPPED a record number of people, so the borders are more secure than they have previously been.

Number of people stopped at the border goes down?  "Biden has ended enforcement, the border is wide open."
Number of people stopped at the border goes up?  "Immigrants are overwhelming Biden's CBP, the border is wide open."
Heads they win, tails we lose.

how are florida building and farming industries doing nowadays ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOWZj6y0QSg

Just curious.

LMAO … not that it’s true but it’s nice that you think allowing illegals in should be based off low wage jobs. I’m still looking for construction companies going under because of Florida enforcing laws. I see them on edited YouTube videos but haven’t come across them in the Orlando area.

Man they can’t just get here and up and vote next year that’s a process that takes a long ass time. They’ll be paying taxes and contributing to whatever communities they end up in long before they can vote.

They are by and large people fleeing criminal violence political instability and crippling poverty, who’s to “blame”?  Capitalism? Society? War? Human Nature? Drugs? God? Who knows it complex.

Let them in one of the beautiful ideas about this country as that everyone has a chance here no matter where you’re from.

I don't believe that unchecked migration is good.

But I do that that immigration, in general, is good.  We need their spirit, their work ethic, and their contribution to the economy.  But you have to do what you can to make the influx sustainable and predictable and I don't think this is anything but a losing battle that you just have to keep fighting.  There isn't a set answer.

We haven't truly addressed this policy for many many decades, though. 

The reason why the United States is the most successful and powerful country in the world is specifically and explicitly because of our melting pot status.  Our diversity is literally our strength.

^ It's literally what makes us great.

For all the guff that America gets and deserves for various reasons, we really are unique in that we have American exceptionalism.  I truly believe it's because of immigration.  It's literally what gives us a leg up over any other country in the world.

Back then, we were not gripped by an entitlement mentality

This is a bumper sticker quote with no tie to reality.

It sounds like you got it off of talk radio.  Get an original thought.

I made it up that quote and it's 100 percent true.

That's why Trump wanted to reform our immigration policy.

That's why Trump wanted to secure our borders

That's why Trump wanted to reform our entitlement programs.

He had the presidency and both houses of congress and the supreme court and he didn't do any of those things.

He did try to overthrow the government, though, so that was a thing.

He cut SNAP funding

He protected our borders.  Don’t know if any migrants overwhelming our schools during his presidency

And it will eventually be our downfall. They should shut down all immigration with the exception of people who have something significant to offer. We're full, there are 194 other countries for them to choose from. Build a great wall of China on the southern border and man it with sniper towers and anything else that will stop people from invading.

We're not even remotely close to "full."
Furthermore, most of the countries who like to say stuff like "We're full" are facing a looming retirement crisis because their population is too old.  This is - again - one of America's strengths: as families gain generational wealth and have fewer children on average, we keep importing new immigrants who have larger families.  This is important and necessary in economically-developed nations.

If you say so. We'll just disagree LMAO

I've noticed that this seems to be a recurring response from you:




Is this so you can have the last word without actually having to say anything of substance? If not, why even bother clicking Reply for that?
Under no metric is the United States of America even remotely close to "full."

You notice because you simply want to argue with your circular logic, deflection, and spin. It's what you thrive on. We simply disagree which is fine with me. I'm not here to jump through your hoops or win a debate. It's simply not worth my time. If you don't like my posts, no one is forcing you to reply with passive aggressive posts.

This country has enough problems to deal with and we don't need to add to it. In my opinion the left just wants to add to their voter base.

Taking you at your word that you believe immigrants would add to the left's voter base, "I don't want any more immigrants that might vote against my political preferences" does not mean the same thing as "The country is already full."

I mean, I don't want any more insurrectionist cultists breeding and raising uneducated fundamentalist zealots, but that's not really the same thing as "We're full, we need to change the laws to limit the number of children."

Legal citizens having children isn't illegal. Illegal aliens are by definition illegal. There's a difference between internal and external problems we need to solve. We're full, they can go somewhere else if they don't like where they're at, that's my opinion on what should happen.

There's no point going round and round with this. You're not convincing me otherwise and I'm not convincing you otherwise. You'll have to win your virtue signaling brownie points with someone else.

It is if you outlaw it. But more importantly, as gun control and the drug war have shown, you don't have to completely outlaw something to regulate it heavily.

1) The majority of "illegal aliens" in the US arrive legally by air or sea and then illegally overstay their visa (like Melania Trump did).  Building "sniper towers on the southern border" is just virtue signaling to racists in America that we're trying to keep the brown people out.
2) The US is a signatory to international treaties providing for legal asylum for undocumented immigrants.

Let's not pretend that "legality" is the reason y'all want lethal force at the southern border (and always just the southern border).

LOL cool story bro

I deleted a message that was simply a YouTube link with no comment. That is against forum policy.

I find this youtube link funny and pertinent to the situation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I47FenYRrG0

Your gnorance of how our immigration laws, and Constitution, is profound.

Only U.S. citizens can vote in federal elections...period. Not a single person coming across the border during Biden's administration will be voting for him or any House or Senate Democrats.

That laundry list of benefits that conservative sites and pundits use to anger the uninformed is propaganda. It is almost impossible to qualify for all the local, state, and federal benefits that they list. A large majority of those immigrants are working here, which is why they came. They either send money home, or they start lives here, but either way, they are paying taxes and purchasing goods, and services here. They are coming here because businesses and corporations, the backbone of the GOP, want super cheap labor to maximize their profits.

The majority of people coming in are seeking asylum and making credible fear claims. To qualify for this, they have to surrender themselves immediately to CBP and process.
Then they have to wait to get their asylum application adjudicated by USCIS, or go to court to get their asylum claims heard by an Immigration Judge. Either way, they are looking at years until that process go through.
After that, they can look at applying to become a permanent resident.
Years after that, they can consider applying for naturalization, and then they can finally register to vote after taking the oath.
If they come in illegally and have a child here, they have to wait until their USC child turns 2q before that child can petition for their parents to start the multiple year process towards naturalization.
But please keep regurgitating false narratives and talking points.