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Tua is out three more weeks.

will the rest of the season depend on what happens those remaining three weeks?

If they lose all three games, will they just not bring him back for the season because there would be no point in risking further injury to him when they aren't going to make the playoffs?

If they win, one or two of those games, will they bring him back to see if they can make a playoff push?

The other question is morals.  Even if Tua wants to come back, should Miami just tell him no because they don't want it on their conscience if it happens again?

I don't think the Dolphins have a moral issue.  If the doctors clear him to play and he wants to take the risk and the Dolphins think he helps them, in terms of football, what right (much less responsibility) do they have to disallow it?

This isn't the Dolphins choice, in terms of whether Tua wants to continue playing.  That's on Tua and his doctors.

Three games ain't shit.  So, yeah...if he's back and ready to play, I would play him over whatever backups we got going on, even if we lose the next three.

After that, you make a football decision as to how to proceed for the next year.

Yup agreed. Even if we are 1-5 and he comes back you play him until we are mathematically eliminated from playoff contention .

The goal for the rest of the season is to be in contention if/when Tua returns

We can win enough games to be in the mix until our Quarterback comes back.

If he retires or doesn’t return, you play hard every game but maybe eye a top draft pick and go from there.

An implosion, which is entirely predictable on the basis of having an inadequate QB in conjunction with a team culture that doesn't inspire a rising to the occasion in the face of that adversity on the part of the other players.

I don't know what they're going to do. But in my opinion, throw Huntly in there and see what he can do. Thompson and Boyle aren't the solution to win games. If Huntly does well, we will have a viable backup. If not we haven't lost anything.

Neither is Huntley if McDaniel continues to be a dumbass with his play calling, and Hill & Waddle continue to mail it in.

If you look at the remaining schedule it's really not that tough, they can win 9 of the remaining games.  IMO it's a matter of coaching, play calling, and a bit of execution.

The season is over. Miami just lost to the worst team in the league in embarrasing fashion. It's not even just the offense, the defense looks equally inept. Miami is the worst team in the league now. They will be lucky to win 6 games.

Burn this organization to the ground and start over

Tank

fire everyone from the GM down...

I predict the Dolphins will win just enough games to get into playoff contention, then tank the last couple.  In other words another typical Miami season.

McDaniel has to motivate our elite players to start playing to the level that they should, get creative and more aggressive with the playbook (regardless of who is at QB), and plug the holes we have created for ourselves. Plus fire Crossman and get someone with a working brain cell to take over our special teams.

It's the only way we can look at salvaging something from this season, although I have serious doubts we will do it. Losing half our defensive starters (and arguably our best two offensive linemen) at the end of last season dug us a hole that was always going to be hard to get out from. With the offense misfiring, the task is now even more daunting.

Maybe we should start a poll as to who is the most overpaid/overrated player so far this season?

Tyreek
Waddle
Tua
Ramsey
Jackson
Armstead
Chubb (admittedly still on PUP)

These guys account for a huge chunk of our salary cap.

I said I was done last Monday lol but it’s not over yet. Jets and Bills los, we won. If we can get the running game better and cut down some mental errors we can be in contention still for when Tua comes back and I think we can get back on track.

Either way, I’d rather the dolphins make me cry then not be a fan at all

Nothing has changed with an ugly win against lowly New England (sorry Hoodie). I still think the Dolphins will be fortunate to win 6 games this year. I'll be very happy to admit I was wrong if they make the playoffs, but I just don't see it happening at this point in the season. An awful lot of things would have to change in my opinion least of all would be Tua being fully healthy for the rest of the year. I see too many issues besides QB right now. If things do go south and they win 6 or less, expect big changes in the off season. That could be a coaching change, trades, maybe even a change at General Manager. Hold on because I think we are in for a bumpy ride in 2024 and a potential rebuild for 2025.

Well it’s never easy to get a win against a division rival ( no matter how lowly ) in their home stadium on your third QB.

You may be right, consensus certainly is that Miami is doomed to a bad season.

I think Mostert’s return might help a lot.


We will see.

One other key thing that I think should happen post the break - McDaniel should seriously consider handing over the play calling to the Offensive Coordinator.

Even before Tua got hurt, he had a history of taking way to long to get the plays in which led to problems (especially in hostile territory where there's a lot of noise).

If he's going to persist with this (especially with our back up QBs) then he has to find a way to get the plays in a lot quicker. Maybe that means running a hurry-up offense more often than not which would at least buy our QB a little more time.

I didn't watch the NE game, but my understanding is that the ball was being snapped with plenty of time to go, so the plays were getting in much quicker.

I would agree he's gotten better at getting the plays in quicker, but he should still not be calling all the offensive plays.  If McDaniel wants to be an OC then he should go do that and step aside from being a head coach.

McDaniel isn't the problem really. His play calling is fine, the problem is that this team is so soft in the trenches. They will never be able to hold a lead. He takes blame for part of that because he helps construct the roster. Next draft they should draft nothing but offensive and defensive lineman, but I don't have much faith they would be able to pick the right guys anyway so it probably wouldn't matter.

Forget this season. It's over.

We're through the softest part of our draw and we're 2-5.

We've got to win something like 8 of the last 10 to be a chance at a wildcard. Hell, if we do it, we would have earned it... but this is the Phins who struggle to win in December.

McDaniel is a major part of the problem. The team is soft and selfish because of his personality and philosophies. It can't protect a lead when it counts, it never could.

He needs to have a serious look in the mirror and find a mean bone, and bring it to the team next season.

Well this season is over, there's no way they win in Buffalo next week.  They need to look at trading some players before the deadline in a week.  They need to accumulate as many picks as possible and start the re-build now.  That means trading some players with high salaries now, and trading any players with upcoming high salaries.  This re-build is over and there's no point in dragging it out trying to salvage what isn't there.  Need to start rebuilding the offensive and defensive lines and maybe in 2 or 3 years they may be able to compete.

Can we feasibly do that much? Before the recent contract restructures Tyreek, Tua, Waddle and Ramsey may have been attractive to some team in need, but I can't see them offering much in the way of a trade and now be lumped with all that guaranteed money to pay out. Speaking of which... how much dead money would we be possibly up for?

We are in an awful predicament with Chubb - no sign of a return soon from injury, and I read that he alone is slated to take up 10.5% of the total team salary cap next season!

So who's left to trade that a team would want? Or on the other had, who else do we let walk out this time when their contract's up? Holland? Achane? Phillips?

It seems like some teams are expressing interest in Calais Campbell, who has been a good acquisition this season.

It's only a one year, $2M contract, so would we be better keeping him around as one of our better players on defense to help Chop Robinson continue to improve before the end of the season? Or will there be a pick good enough to let him go?

It would have been a huge mistake to let Calais Campbell leave. He's been one of the bright spots in a rather disappointing season. I'm actually Ok with Miami standing pat through the trade deadline. Looking back at the last 3 drafts, I'm actually ok with most of what has happened. The biggest thing that hurt us was losing 1st and 3rd round picks for tampering. They've traded away a lot of picks but they've brought in some good players with those trades. Pick some beefy guys for the offensive line and front 7 on defense next year and make this a team that can hold up in December and they might actually be a decent team next year if Tua can stay healthy.

I agree. He's one of the rare few who have played at a consistently high standard this season, and we're better off with him than a token draft pick in return.

Last week I said Achane would be miles ahead of everyone in the team MVP race, but on reflection Campbell would be close... after those two, there should be a lot of daylight though.

The plan for the rest of the season is to continue to underachieve because the team is being led by someone with a personality only slightly different from Pee Wee Herman's.

And I sounded that alarm way back when he was hired.

Apparently, they were very close to letting him go for a 2026 5th rounder. I am glad they came to their senses and didn't do it.

https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-hc-mike-mcdaniel-nixed-calais-campbell-deal-to-ravens-ahead-of-nov-5-trade-deadline

Let's not get too ahead of ourselves... the last two wins were against two of the top four tanking for the highest pick in next years draft.

https://www.tankathon.com/nfl

Next week on the road at Green Bay will be a massive test as to whether we are any chance or none. Drop that, and we honestly don't deserve one.

^^^  I agree; beating a team as bad as the Patriots at home is nice, but nothing to get too excited about.  Miami did that all last season but when the tough matches came at the end of the season the offense didn't show up.  Now if they can go to GB on a short week, for a cold night game, then that would be a significant win.  A win like that carries over and gives the organization the confidence they can win tough games.

If SF and HOU continue their slides, then no matter what happens for the rest of the season, MIA can (at best) only beat "one good team" this year (even if they win out).  That, in turn, would mean that unless they beat a #2 seed as a #7 seed (which could very well mean trying to be the first team to beat the Chiefs in the playoffs in 3 years), this will be just yet another late season collapse.

MIA has beaten good teams; they've beaten BAL, BUF, DAL.  If you're going to continue to find reasons to dismiss every win they get against a good team, you'll continue to be disappointed.

Everyone in that dolphin locker room should be excited for the opportunity on Thursday, to shed some narratives and to get back to .500 and make a statement.


If Miami can pull this off Thursday I see no reason we can’t go on a run and surprise some people.

If there is one game on the schedule we can lose and still squeak in by winning the rest this is it.

I’m hoping for a good game game, I think we can win it.

Huh? Miami is 1-10 against Buffalo going back to 2019, that ONE win came in Sept 2022.  Yes they beat Baltimore in 2021 and 2022 (Baltimore had a losing record in 2021 at 8-9 and was 10-7 in 2022), but got walloped in their most recent meeting by a score of 56-19, a game on 12/31/23 which was kinda important for their playoff seeding.  As for Dallas I did not dismiss that win, in fact I have said more than once that was one of their best wins last year.

Going back to 2022 to find wins against Baltimore and Buffalo isn't a very strong argument

MIA had a winning December record in 2023, 2021, and 2020, yet y'all will happily chant annual December collapse.

It's done for this season now. Forget it.

Forget about the "mathematical chances" brought up until we are officially eliminated from contention.

We ain't good enough. Tonight proved it.

I repeat what I said last month about McNugget. He has to hand over the play calling duties to the OC. Probationary time is over.

These delay of game penalties at the most crucial times are killing us. It's happened way too much now. One should be unforgivable now. Enough!

Ps. That isn't an autocorrect or autofill. It's a deliberate slur.

That initial rush of protein, fat (and something very similar to MSG) are over with now... it's becoming boring and monotonous.

The new plan is... the preseason for 2025-26 starts right now.

Every player and coach is told where they stand right now until the rest of the season. This isn't good enough.

Don't care how long your contract is, or how much guaranteed money there is. This isn't good enough.

Every person should be on notice. This isn't good enough.

The play calling wasn't the problem tonight it was the execution. The plays were there, we just weren't making them and the Packers made every play they needed to make. That was an average team trying to play against a good team and just being outplayed. Had nothing to do with play calling and everything to do with lack of execution.

Those delay of game penalties were avoidable. Tua wasn't paying attention to the game clock and getting the snap off in time. Sure it helps to get the play in faster, but the QB's job is getting guys to hurry up and get into position to get the play off. It's not like the clock ran out when they breaking the huddle. That's on the QB. Tua missed several open players too. I think he was overthrowing the ball in the first half trying to get a little extra on the ball and it was sailing on him. He settled in better the 2nd half but the game was already out of reach by then.

The Dolphins just didn't match up tonight, that's it. They were overmatched. The announcers touched on it all night long and they were right. The team is still too much finesse and not enough meat and potatoes. There needs to be more balance. More size and strength and less quick twitch guys. Not saying get rid of all of them, but you have to have leaders that resemble both and we don't. All our best players are small and fragile. We need more guys that are big and can withstand the pounding that a full season takes. We don't need to blow it up, we just need to focus the attention on the guys in the trenches more. That's where this team doesn't stack up.

Another three delay of game penalties again in the first half. With Tua, the supremely intelligent anointed one at QB, and not a dumb, slack backup.

Just because McNugget decided to bite off more than he could chew, and refuses to admit it's a mistake.

Grier (or Ross) has to grow a pair of balls and say this has to change. It's got beyond a joke, and will cost McNugget his job if this continues.

^^^ Reading the last bunch of posts from ya, Downunder, I'm reminded of the phrase "Some people just aren't happy unless they're unhappy."  And, since I believe that everybody deserves to be happy, I guess I'm happy for your unhappiness. I think...


I initially gave "McNugget" a solid 5 score out of 10 on the humorous wordplay scale (I'm generous like that)... but then you lost 2 of those points when you quoted your own joke in bold, so that folks recognize when they should laugh.

 ;D

Haha, I'll give you that.

It's pretty easy to be tired and emotional when our hopes are yet again built up, only to be torn down. Given we've all gravitated to a forum called "The Dolphins Make My Cry", it should probably be expected.

One of the most frustrating things about this whole regime is that they don't seem to learn from repeated mistakes. Until they do, we're all stuck on the same hamster wheel.