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I never thought I'd live to see it.  What happened today in the oval office was a new level of disgraceful.  You can see how uncomfortable Rubio is, after warning about the dangers of Russia, his whole career -- he finds himself a stooge to a murderous fascist dictator.  America is the worldwide enemy of democracy.  Fucking crazy.

The conservatives are spinning.  They're trying to make sense of it on their news networks and on their socials.  But they'll fall in line and say that up is down and black is white.  Holy shit.  It's over.

Dave, you're not considering that there is some number of people who will weakly object to that debacle, but who also have to weigh that against the fact that you are absolutely triggered right now which is a major goal in and of itself.

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This election is quickly securing its place in history as the worst since 1933.

You guys are stuck in the mainstream narrative. Trump wants to end the war. Zolenski wants to prolong the war and get paid to do it. This started back in the 90s when Ukraine and the US pushed for them to join the UN after agreeing to never do that. things have only gotten worse since then as Ukraine has always been very corrupt ... as the Bidens displayed. The biggest problem with him, as stated by Rubio himself, is Zolanski says one thing to them in meetings and something altogether different in public when he is front of cameras. The actor in him takes over.

Trump wants to "end the war" by Ukraine completely capitulating to Russia, which is an option that was always available from day 1.

This is like "ending" the Korean War by letting North Korea take South Korea.

I guess when Japan bombed pearl harbor and invaded the Philippines and Alaska Trump would have been right there telling America to end the war and just let Japan have what it invaded. Too bad FDR just wanted to prolong the war and get paid to do it. It started way back in the 20s when the world pushed the US to join the league of nations but the senate never ratified that treaty. Things only got worse since the Philippines were always very corrupt, as McCarthur displayed when he evacuated. The biggest problem obviously was that Tojo was saying one thing behind closed doors and another to the press. It's clear if FDR had just let Japan take over, we wouldn't' have lost any soldiers in WW2. What a monster.

Huh?  FDR taking office in 1933 was one of the best in our country's history, he led us out of the Great Depression.

If Trump wants the war over he needs to have the balls to tell Putin to get the fuck out of Ukraine or we'll launch an all out air assault on all foreign troops in Ukraine.  Russia ain't shit anymore, they're bringing in North Koreans to fight because they got not troops willing to fight.

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FDR was elected in 1932.
There's another guy in Europe that won an election in 1933.

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Not sure if you guys have already seen it, but some of these posters have been appearing in the UK on bus shelters.

Apparently Jeremy Clarkson (ex-Top Gear UK) has driven the vehicle, and said a novel feature was the one-way sat-nav to Poland.

Like I said, you guys are stuck on Mainstream Media's take. After so many conspiracy theories proven to be true, it's hard to trust anything being fed to us. Just a week or so ago a couple of dozen Democrat legislatures gave the exact same speech. someone is obviously pulling their strings as they are many Republicans.  

I don't see us as pro Russia or pro Ukraine but it does confuse me as to why we support other countries more than ourselves. Burn our flag and then support Palestine, Iran, Ukraine, Mexico, etc. Seems like an inside job to me.

we support other countries because that's how we bribe them into doing things we want (really our corporations want)

Ukraine has been going toe-to-toe with big-bad Russia for three years. It would be like if America started a war with Madagascar, and couldn't finish them off...

The only weapon Putin has right now is a president in his pocket...

If you ask the people of Ukraine, it's been closer to 11 years fighting since Russia marched into Crimea, and took that for themselves.

It's a complicated issue.. theoretically, if Ukraine gave up the Donbas region (that associates themselves with Russia anyway) it should be an avenue to peace.

The problem is that Putin ordered a full invasion of Ukraine, and a direct attack on Kyiv to topple it (including an order to assassinate Zelenskyy and his whole family, and by chance, balls, strength and intelligence, he's had the galll to survive that) and instead of it folding immediately, it's dragged out to three years of mortal combat. So bad that Russia has dragged in expendable prisoner scum for hire (via the Wagner Group), and now that's been exhausted, North Korean conscripts. It's embarrassing for Putin. When he's embarrassed, he wants blood - just ask the family of Alexei Navalny, or anyone else opposing him who has mysteriously died.

Sadly this his won't stop until Zelenskyy is dead, or Putin is dead, because when the latter is embarrassed, he too small a man to admit when he has lost. That should sound a little familiar over there.  

Bruce Lee always remarked in his movies about the best being prepared for defeat, and acknowledging it with honor. There is nothing in Trump or Putin that has the remotest thread of that. There is no self sacrifice for others, or even their own dignity.

When Trump (mistakenly) referred to Zelenskyy as a Dictator (which is total bullshit given that there is no national interest for an election under martial law, plus the opposition doesn't even want to go to an election under the circumstances - maybe he should ask his friend from Israel, Bibi the Butcher about how that works), Zelenskyy has said he would resign immediately if there was a genuine truce and security for Ukraine's sovereignty. Something that Trump to date has not come close to guaranteeing.

There are genuine questions about Trump's closeness to Putin, as to if he is compromised. I think he sucks Putin's cock twice a week.

As to that wannabe Nazi Elon Musk... he can suck my cock twice a week. I sincerely hope everyone bails out of Tesla and runs that company into the scorched earth, leaving that Fascist motherfucker penniless.

Fuck Putin.  Give him nothing.  The entire world needs to keep him at bay.  There needs to be a cost to him at the loss, for all of our own safety.

And if you need a hint he was a felon who before being elected attempted to overthrow the government.  Was known for lying and scapegoating minorities.  Exploited political position for personal financial and political benefit.  Attacked the media. Engaged in tax evasion.

Are we still talking about 1933?

I wish we had the power to do this. As I understand, they were skirting the economic sanctions by selling their oil to China and India (their BRICs brothers) who'd re-sell the stuff on the international market.

I wish President Putin cared about the young men in his country, but he doesn't. To him, their deaths are no loss. Even moreso with other countries' peoples (see DPRK).

The international order has a multitude of 'bad actors'. Best we can do for now is peace, IMO. I hate that but until and unless China and India join the G-7 or NATO or ally with us militarily and politically otherwise, (or, I guess unless there's another Sino-Soviet split, or India backs out of BRICs) then it's impossible to totally reign them in at this stage.

What I think *will* happen though, is that with the extreme decline in Asian and Russian birthrates, China and Russia will be largely depleted of their power by the end of the century. You can't have an army if you're having .6 children per woman. America's not out of the woods on that issue either but at least we have people who actually want to come to this country.

Peace just means surrendering and letting him keep the land, right?

Yeah.  Does this remind you of someone else?

Trump was supposed to end the war in Ukraine on day 1 presumably with the strategy you just mentioned - let Russia have whatever they want - but that was just another lie, like his lie about lowering grocery prices on day 1.  It turns out that the only day 1 promise he actually meant was terrorizing brown people and fucking over the working class.

Apparently you haven't noticed but egg and fuel prices have gone down so that's something. BTW ... just last night Trump said he was upset with Putin and may put tariffs on Russia depending on how things move on from here.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-angry-putin-zelenskyy-iran-sanctions-rcna198729


By the numbers: The average wholesale price of a dozen eggs was $3 Friday, down 8% from $3.27 on March 21, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data released Friday.

It's down 63% from a record $8.15 in the Feb. 21 report.
https://www.axios.com/2025/03/28/easter-egg-prices-go-down




Gas prices fell for the fourth straight week on Monday and are likely to continue sliding below $3 per gallon, according to experts.

The average price of a gallon of regular gas is currently $3.078 across the U.S. as of March 18, according to AAA data. This is down from $3.081 a week earlier; $3.161 last month; and $4.367 last year.

The average price for a gallon of gas is also currently below $3 in 34 states, according to GasBuddy.com, which monitors gas prices across the U.S..
https://www.newsweek.com/gas-prices-plummeting-under-donald-trump-fourth-week-aaa-gasbuddy-2046238

Nobody expected any of this to happen on day one.   Not even the extreme Trump haters.

I don't know about eggs but you posted about gasoline too late. Since that article the national average went to $3.13 last week and $3.17 this week. The President doesn't really have much to do with that anyway.

"Everybody knew Trump was lying when he promised to lower grocery prices and end the war on day 1, especially his supporters"

It the summer and people are moving around more so it goes up. That's pretty typical and for what it's worth, I know it didn't happen because of the Trump changes. 

They have been supplementing the farmers who killed all of their chickens because of supposed bird blue. I say "supposed" because apparently it didn't affect any other birds.

Trump says a lot of exaggerated things that most of us realize it political BS.

"When Trump says the economy will be better under him than under the Democrats, we know he's just bullshitting, but we vote for him anyway"

Keep going!

Look at the economy when Trump left office as opposed to the one when Biden left office.   If you think you were better off after four years of Pedo Joe and the Boxer Droppin Hoe, I don't know what to tell you.

the economy was better on jan 21st 2025 than it was jan 21st 2021, no question, not even close

The hell it was.    Look at the prices of gas on 1-21-21 compared to 1-21-25.   Look at the prices of groceries, housing, and insurance.   Everything skyrocketed.

Oh I'm sorry i thought you said the economy .. not the price of gas at a single day. My bad.

We're going to get the economic equivalent of "If Global Warming is real, why is it cold today?"

Also, dig deeper -- this isn't a worldwide issue.  It's self-inflicted with these dumb-ass tariffs.  Our growth as compared to the world economy is in the world position since the 1980s, all directly related to what's happening now.

Give me a fucking break would ya??  That is basically the economy.   Prices of necessity goods/services skyrocketed to an out of control point under the previous administration after Trump fought for four years to prevent that. 

The economy when Trump came into office was booming.
The economy when Trump left office was in tatters, due largely to his world-worst mismanagement of COVID; Trump is literally the only President on record to have a net job loss over his term.
The economy when Trump came into office the second time was booming, again.
I expect a similar outcome.

The "price of gas" was low in January 2021 because people had been scared to leave their homes for nearly a year, due to Trump's world-worst mismanagement of COVID!  Of course gas prices went down during the pandemic, but the rest of the economy was totally obliterated!

Which tariffs are directly affecting you because I haven't seen an effects from any. I easily see plenty of people panicking about it but then again, they would gladly support it if Obama was supporting it. Pretty much any whining and complaining these days is political in nature. Hell, A democrat just spent 24 hours talking nonsense to hold up politics and people are hailing him a hero. Absolutely no one thinks it actually made a difference.

So far, just the tanking of my stock portfolio.  I've lot about 13% in the past 18 months.

But many of the tariffs were taken off.  They will go into place today.

Are you suggesting that the tariffs will not be damaging?  Do you support the tariffs?  Be clear.

I support the tariffs if they work out for us in the end. I honestly have no idea if it will work but I do know Trump wins a lot more business deals than he loses. I personally think this will be a short term issue as in the past. I buy mostly American, and have so for many years, so I can't see too many things being too affected for me.

Considering prices have been ballooning for the past three years it will be hard for me to notice the tariff affect but I will try.

Apparently they have already begun working so its not all bad.

The countries who already folded to Trump's ominous tariff threats ahead of Liberation Day event: Live updates

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Absolutely clownish summary, CF.

To elaborate on exactly what "folding to Trump's tariff threats" entails (https://twitter.com/ThomasSowell/status/1907438386303963242):  "Ontario Premier Doug Ford says they are willing to drop all tariffs against the U.S. if President Trump is willing to do the same."

In short: the premier of a Canadian province has offered to drop all tariffs if the US does the same, i.e. ignore everything Trump has said about tariffs in the first place and return to the status quo ante.  Not only is this NOT folding, but a premier of a province (which is the Canadian equivalent of a US state governor) has zero authority to enact such a deal!  This is no different than Gavin Newsom offering to drop all tariffs on Canada if they do the same for the US.

How is Trump going to react when Governments don't react, but people do?
 
There's a groundswell in Canada before any possibility of retaliatory tariffs were proposed by the Government. Liquor stores removing whisky, etc.

Our Government in Australia knows that (especially in a situation we import more than we export to the USA) tariffs are pointless so they won't retaliate directly, but the public here are pissed off and are already talking about a boycott of imported USA products.

My attitude is FUCK THE USA TODAY! in response. This is the way you treat a loyal ally? While you kiss the asses of the most evil, repressive governments on earth?

JD Vance is an especially nasty piece of shit. So all of the UK, Australian, and other allies who went into battles with the USA in Iraq and Afghanistan with no questions asked and sacrificed lives lives alongside the USA means nothing to him? I hope Prince Harry (who actually saw real combat unlike that douchebag) punches the shit out of him on sight.  

American goods will go up.  It's simple supply and demand.

The demand to buy American goods will be higher -- there will not be more American goods to buy.  Costs go up.


...not to mention that American good is such a nebulous term because even when things are assembled here, parts and materials are rarely 100% local.  This is a disaster.  Conservatives were all about free trade.  It was libs who supported tarriffs (and even then, they were cut out with a razor to punish things like human rights violations...not blanket tariffs on the world.

This is a tragedy for the American economy.  He also doesn't have the legal authority to do it -- he declared a fake war to give him the power.  Congress can check it but Mike Johnson did some bullshit to technically call the remaining congressional session "one day" so that he doesn't have to hold a vote on it.   ...a vote where many Republicans would side with Democrats to end this.


Trump doesn't give a shit about the economy, America, legacy, voters -- any of that.  He likes the power that comes with being able to do whatever he wants to whomever he wants.  He can reward and punish.

You are going to eat his shit, CF.  I'm looking forward to hearing your excuses about how good it tastes.

It is literally batshit crazy stuff. It ends up being a 10%+ tariff on everything the USA buys... because there just isn't the investment in industry there. Even after this, there won't be the investment there to start it up again. You're all just paying extra into Government coffers for absolutely no reason, because at the same time they are gutting the services they provide to you.

It still ends up being cheaper for a USA corporation to pay a sweatshop overseas to make the goods, or to find a tax loophole to work their way around it. In the end the poor pay for the tax cuts for the rich. That's what's Trump intended, and you dickheads voted for it.  

Did you see the list of tariffs we pay and the countries we are placing them on? I mean ... we are basically only charging half of what each country does. Why is it ok for them to charge us? The whole purpose of this is to have them drop their tariffs which will save everyone in the end.

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Those "Tariffs charged to USA" numbers are completely made up.  Total bullshit.

People have already figured out what those numbers actually represent (https://fortune.com/2025/04/03/trump-tariff-formula-calculation-trade-deficit/), and how Elon's child-idiots came up with them:

Trump’s tariff numbers appear to have been calculated through a simple math formula, which works with every single country on the list

The formula used to calculate President Donald Trump’s new batch of tariffs announced Wednesday is based on dividing the U.S.’s trade deficit with a given country divided by their total exports to the U.S. A memo from the office of the U.S. trade representative acknowledged this was the methodology used because it was too “complex, if not impossible” to calculate the full extent of each country’s U.S. trade policies. [...]

To calculate the tariffs it decided to impose on countries around the world, the White House used a formula that focused on trade deficits and total exports. The formula didn’t include an assessment of tariff rates for specific products in individual countries, or take into account other trade barriers that weren’t tariffs.  

Instead, the reciprocal tariff rate applied to each country was: their trade deficit divided by exports to the U.S., divided by two.

If the country has a trade surplus with the U.S., or the number resulting from the above formula was less than 10%, then a flat rate of 10% was applied.

For example, the U.S. has a $235.6 billion trade deficit with the European Union, which exports a total of $605.8 billion to the U.S. Based on the White House’s formula, $235.6 divided by $605.8 equals 0.388, which divided by half is 0.194. That number gets rounded up to 0.2, which leads to a 20% tariff rate.

"The blind application of such a simple formula ignores so much nuance," Dominic Pappalardo, chief multi-asset strategist at Morningstar Wealth, told Fortune in an email.

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Notably, these knuckleheads completely neglected to consider all trade in services, only counting trade in goods.  For example, the US has a trade deficit with the EU in goods, but a trade surplus in services.  Doesn't matter to these clowns!  Math is for nerds, and Strong Men Take Action.

More importantly, a trade deficit is not a tariff.  I purchase more items from Home Depot than they purchase from me, but that does not mean Home Depot is levying a tariff on me.

These fucking morons are going to destroy the nation's economy out of pure ignorance, while 30% of the country is cheering and clapping wildly from their cardboard boxes under the nearest bridge.

He is lying to you.

Either he is stupid or he thinks you are stupid.

We are not tariffed 90% to Vietnam.  None of these are correct.

The price of gas in Texas hasn't been over $3 in years. It goes up and down by around 20 cents a gallon from time to time but it's stayed under $3 for a very long time, at least in Dallas. Can't speak for all of Texas.

Trump slapped a tarrif on an uninhabited island in antarctic

It's also just a fundamental misunderstanding.

Like, we don't.....we can't....grow coffee in the US.  We have some small places in Hawaii, but in general, we don't have a coffee industry, but we drink a lot of coffee.  Tariffs on those industries doesn't level anything.  It just means we pay more for coffee.

...or diamonds or whatever else.

Now, a tariff is a tool and if you wanted to scalpel out specific portions of industries with specific countries, paired with a greater economic support plan -- like if you were trying to bring automotives back to Flint, MI so you had very targeted tariffs and incentives for X amount of the production happening here, paired with rebates or whatever....sure, let's have that talk.  But across the board....just dumb.

I'm hearing some "actually crashing the economy is good for the economy" talk from some bozos, so I think we just gotta let this fever break.

And now a couple days after Trump's tarriffs, the gas prices in Dallas have just gone over $3 dollars for the first time in a very long time. Long before Trump became President.

And at the same time, Vietnam and Switzerland have folded and agreed to mutually rescind tariffs with the U.S. until after deal can be reached and 50 more countries have also reached out wanting to make a deal

That's the point: every country needs to come to Trump and personally ask for his mercy.

Will "the deal" be any better than we had before?  Will it make up for all that we've already lost in, say, collapsed 401k value?  Who cares!  The only point is for a line of international leaders, corporate CEOs, and the like to make their way to the White House and pay fealty to Trump.

I really wouldn't call it folded. 

Vietnam has agreed to exempt the US from tariffs on a bunch of items - none of which are produced in the US.

Switzerland already has abolished most tariffs but will explicitly exempt the US from their nonexistent tariffs.   

Everyone of Trumps so called "victories" have been countries announcing longstanding policy will remain in place. 

I am sure when Brazil announces that they won't charge a tariff on bananas imported from the US and Columbia won't charge a tariff on coffee imported from the US it will be called a great victory by Trump but it won't actually change trade. 

Man, all that talk last year about Bidenflation and how no one can afford anything, yet only now do we find out that Actually, Money Doesn't Even Matter:

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If you think the mere inconvenience of a devastated economy will be enough to shake the Trumpists from their cultish devotion to their orange god, you are mistaken.  We are not in 2008 anymore.

^ For the cristofascists, sure.

But I think the tech-bros are starting to turn.