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I like the heavy defensive picks this year, give those guys a year to mature in the NFL.  Probably a lower amount of wins this year, maybe bad enough to be able to draft Arch Manning and some offensive lineman next year.  This could be an AFC Championship team in 2027.

Miserable for Manning!

I like it. If we're gonna be miserable in 2025 it may as well be for something.  ;D :D

Manning may not be ready for the NFL until 2027.

Tanking didn't help us 7 years ago so I wouldn't recommend it. The Rams won the Super Bowl, rebuilt and are more competitive overall than we are in the same span. 

Suck for Luck worked out so well for the Colts and the multiple Superbowl wins he led them to

^^^ As Mel Kiper ranted "the NFL is a terrible evaluator of QB talent". lol

Hearing people advocating to tank for a QB while a previous tank target is still on the roster borders on insanity.

IMO, the NFL should be like the NBA and implement a draft lottery for the top three picks in order to discourage tanking.

Suck for Luck worked perfect, Indy got to draft the player they wanted; unfortunately the rest of the team continued to suck.

That's because Grier is a terrible evaluator of QB talent and drafted the wrong guy.

The last team that tanking worked out for was the 1997 Colts.

That's a lot of "terrible GMs" across the league.

According to this article we don't need any more QB's we already have everything we need. Yeah that was a joke, but I do think the backup QB's we have now are much improved over last year.

NFL Shakeup: Dolphins Zach Wilson at risk after drafting Quinn Ewers (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-shakeup-dolphins-zach-wilson-at-risk-after-drafting-quinn-ewers/ar-AA1DVmn0?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=8985a30a1d1f4ebca2cf49c3bd6b5058&ei=38)

I don't think we've improved at all.

I look at these guys and think it's just the same as the last couple of years, with different nameplates on the Jerseys.

Failed Jets QB - check

7th round draft pick - check.

When you have an article saying that our 7th round draft pick is a good chance to beat out our second stringer on a good chunk of guaranteed money... where does that sound strangely familiar?

We are still all in on Tua being healthy this season, and hoping like hell the most action both these guys see is holding a clipboard gameday.

^^^^ There are articles I see everyday on the internet, from obscure sources, that are just there for click bait; probably AI generated they are so short.  I read one the other day touting Miami's stellar offensive line. lol

There is no way Wilson isn't back-up this year but next year all bets are off. We guaranteed him 6 million.

Oh please. You're being much too hard on the Dolphins, especially the QB room. If you think Wilson and White have anything in common other than both being QB's, you don't watch football. Wilson has more arm talent than White has in his entire body. Wilson did about as well with the Jets that Aaron Rogers did considering the WR's he had. While no one will mistake Rogers for the same QB he was a few years ago, he's still a good QB, but everyone looks average in a Jets uniform. I'm not saying that Wilson is gonna be great, but he's a capable starter. White has never been anything more than a backup his entire career and not really even a good one at that. The jury is still out on Ewers. I really have no idea what makes anyone think he can surpass Wilson on the depth chart though, he's a project at best. He might be able to develop into a decent starting QB in the NFL, but that's probably a year or 2 down the road at best, but I'd rather see him start for the Dolphins than White. At least Ewers has the look of an NFL QB if not the playing ability yet, I honestly don't know what anyone saw in White. I had high hopes for him when we first got him, but it didn't take long for those hopes to be dashed as soon as I saw him play.

Arguably the best QB you have had since Marino was a QB you picked up after the Jets cut him.  He was your only significant upgrade and you went from last place in the league to winning the division.

There's no comparision with Chad here. When fit he was already a proven commodity at the Jets, he led them to the playoffs a couple of times and was comeback player of the year. At times he was the NFL's passing rater leader, and completion percentage leader. We bought him in as a starting QB and to tutor Henne.

Wilson was an outright failure at the Jets. He held a clipboard all last season as a third stringer for the Broncos. He's been brought here specifically as a backup option, nothing more.   

Even when fit, his arm was a proven noodle...he couldn't throw the ball 40 yards if he was standing on the roof of a very tall building.

Yeah, but he made completions with amazing accuracy, and he won games... enough to make two playoff series, even with his arm reduced to a noodle.

Arm strength isn't everything. Unfortunately for Wilson, so far it's about the only thing he has going for him.

Chad Pennington benefitted mightily from having Ricky and Ronnie and the Wildcat. No way he takes us anywhere without that sensational running game. Once people caught up to the wildcat, Pennington wasn't very effective. I'm not  a Pennington hater but it always seems like he gets way more credit than deserved. We were nothing before the Wildcat that season. In fact, we were 0-2, Penny had like a 50% passing completion rate, and we were averaging 12 points a game. I will say that players really supported the guy and called him one of the best leaders they have played with so there is that.

When you dink and doink your way down the field with runs and short passes, your accuracy is going to look that much better. 

Had they been able to protect him it likely would have worked out well. He had some really good seasons. Not giving him protection has to be one of the biggest failures of the modern era.

I wish Matt Moore didn’t win all those games that year and Miami landed luck but who am I kidding, we couldn’t protect Ryan Tannehill.

Still odd that Tanny is arguably the second most successful QB from that draft.

Soo is he gonna go pro after this year?

I wouldn't if I were him.   Did you see him play against Ohio State?  He looked awful. 

F up for Fernando then?

Tough call.  I like the kid from South Carolina better.   That being said, Arch Manning is terrible.   He stands in the pocket too long, then heaves up ducks that get picked.  That's what cost Texas the game against Florida.   Texas was the preseason top ranked team in the nation.  They have yet to beat a P4 team.

I agree completely. I had Sellers as my top QB in this class to start the season. I just don't think his supporting cast is as good this season as last year. Still...I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Time to resurrect this?

Dolphins definitely need to take a QB next year. Whether that's as their 1st round pick or later is still to be decided, but there's no way they shouldn't take a QB next year even if Willis appears capable. You should always have a backup QB just waiting for his chance in my humble opinion and currently the starting QB is getting his chance.

JES said he would draft one every year. Which round will likely be determined by how Wills is playing later in the season. As it stands, we are pretty much guaranteed a top 3 pick as the Titans and Browns are horrible.

It’s going to be an interesting race to the bottom this year.

Manning sucks

It's a long season. This Ohio State thing could launch him. If not, someone else will step up just like most other years. 

Manning’s had flashes and that game might propel him but we’ll see.

Regardless I think there’s a lot of QB talent this year to find our guy finally.

Things that worry me about guys like Manning (and Shedeur Sanders etc) is they never had to prove themselves the best.  They simply needed to be not obviously worse than the other kid.

If you are coaching peewee football in South Florida and Dan Marino tells you that his nephew is a really good QB and you should play him at QB and there is another kid who also wants to play QB that other kids needs to blow Dan's nephew out of the water for any chance to play.  if they are equal or if the other kids is only slightly better Dan's nephew is going to be your QB. 

Granted Eli and Peyton had that same edge growing up in New Orleans and they did turn out to be worth the hype. 

Drafting someones entire family doesn't always work out too good.  (Ginn Jr.)

:D :D :D

That game was a microcosm of last season for him.   He sucked at first but came on strong in the later half.

Forget about Manning.  I'd love to see Trinidad Chambliss in a Dolphins uniform next year.   He torched LSU's secondary

Chambliss looks great.

What do we think of Mensah?

Who knows, but either one can be had for later in the first round.   I think if you end up with the top pick, you may want to consider a trade down.   

Confidently stating where a player will be drafted only two weeks into the college football season is the sign of some who knows nothing about football while claiming to be smart.  Even the professionals won't be speculating on player draft order until later in the season.

Claiming a player is a late round pick rather than an early round pick this early doesn't make you look smart, it just proves how stupid you are