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Title: Miserable For Manning Post by: masterfins on April 27, 2025, 10:57:51 pm I like the heavy defensive picks this year, give those guys a year to mature in the NFL. Probably a lower amount of wins this year, maybe bad enough to be able to draft Arch Manning and some offensive lineman next year. This could be an AFC Championship team in 2027.
Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Downunder Dolphan on April 27, 2025, 11:16:59 pm Miserable for Manning!
I like it. If we're gonna be miserable in 2025 it may as well be for something. ;D :D Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Pappy13 on April 28, 2025, 10:19:30 am Manning may not be ready for the NFL until 2027.
Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: CF DolFan on April 28, 2025, 11:21:46 am Tanking didn't help us 7 years ago so I wouldn't recommend it. The Rams won the Super Bowl, rebuilt and are more competitive overall than we are in the same span.
Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on April 28, 2025, 11:55:02 am Suck for Luck worked out so well for the Colts and the multiple Superbowl wins he led them to
Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: masterfins on April 28, 2025, 05:30:22 pm ^^^ As Mel Kiper ranted "the NFL is a terrible evaluator of QB talent". lol
Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Spider-Dan on April 28, 2025, 07:57:12 pm Hearing people advocating to tank for a QB while a previous tank target is still on the roster borders on insanity.
Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Sibster on April 29, 2025, 08:06:53 am Hearing people advocating to tank for a QB while a previous tank target is still on the roster borders on insanity. IMO, the NFL should be like the NBA and implement a draft lottery for the top three picks in order to discourage tanking. Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: masterfins on April 30, 2025, 02:28:32 pm Suck for Luck worked out so well for the Colts and the multiple Superbowl wins he led them to Suck for Luck worked perfect, Indy got to draft the player they wanted; unfortunately the rest of the team continued to suck. Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: masterfins on April 30, 2025, 02:29:51 pm Tanking didn't help us 7 years ago so I wouldn't recommend it. The Rams won the Super Bowl, rebuilt and are more competitive overall than we are in the same span. That's because Grier is a terrible evaluator of QB talent and drafted the wrong guy. Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Spider-Dan on April 30, 2025, 05:21:59 pm The last team that tanking worked out for was the 1997 Colts.
That's a lot of "terrible GMs" across the league. Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Pappy13 on April 30, 2025, 05:51:39 pm According to this article we don't need any more QB's we already have everything we need. Yeah that was a joke, but I do think the backup QB's we have now are much improved over last year.
NFL Shakeup: Dolphins Zach Wilson at risk after drafting Quinn Ewers (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-shakeup-dolphins-zach-wilson-at-risk-after-drafting-quinn-ewers/ar-AA1DVmn0?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=8985a30a1d1f4ebca2cf49c3bd6b5058&ei=38) Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Downunder Dolphan on May 02, 2025, 06:51:07 am According to this article we don't need any more QB's we already have everything we need. Yeah that was a joke, but I do think the backup QB's we have now are much improved over last year. NFL Shakeup: Dolphins Zach Wilson at risk after drafting Quinn Ewers (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-shakeup-dolphins-zach-wilson-at-risk-after-drafting-quinn-ewers/ar-AA1DVmn0?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=8985a30a1d1f4ebca2cf49c3bd6b5058&ei=38) I don't think we've improved at all. I look at these guys and think it's just the same as the last couple of years, with different nameplates on the Jerseys. Failed Jets QB - check 7th round draft pick - check. When you have an article saying that our 7th round draft pick is a good chance to beat out our second stringer on a good chunk of guaranteed money... where does that sound strangely familiar? We are still all in on Tua being healthy this season, and hoping like hell the most action both these guys see is holding a clipboard gameday. Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: masterfins on May 02, 2025, 03:29:50 pm ^^^^ There are articles I see everyday on the internet, from obscure sources, that are just there for click bait; probably AI generated they are so short. I read one the other day touting Miami's stellar offensive line. lol
Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: CF DolFan on May 02, 2025, 04:41:50 pm According to this article we don't need any more QB's we already have everything we need. Yeah that was a joke, but I do think the backup QB's we have now are much improved over last year. There is no way Wilson isn't back-up this year but next year all bets are off. We guaranteed him 6 million.NFL Shakeup: Dolphins Zach Wilson at risk after drafting Quinn Ewers (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-shakeup-dolphins-zach-wilson-at-risk-after-drafting-quinn-ewers/ar-AA1DVmn0?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=8985a30a1d1f4ebca2cf49c3bd6b5058&ei=38) Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Pappy13 on May 04, 2025, 11:43:00 am Failed Jets QB - check Oh please. You're being much too hard on the Dolphins, especially the QB room. If you think Wilson and White have anything in common other than both being QB's, you don't watch football. Wilson has more arm talent than White has in his entire body. Wilson did about as well with the Jets that Aaron Rogers did considering the WR's he had. While no one will mistake Rogers for the same QB he was a few years ago, he's still a good QB, but everyone looks average in a Jets uniform. I'm not saying that Wilson is gonna be great, but he's a capable starter. White has never been anything more than a backup his entire career and not really even a good one at that. The jury is still out on Ewers. I really have no idea what makes anyone think he can surpass Wilson on the depth chart though, he's a project at best. He might be able to develop into a decent starting QB in the NFL, but that's probably a year or 2 down the road at best, but I'd rather see him start for the Dolphins than White. At least Ewers has the look of an NFL QB if not the playing ability yet, I honestly don't know what anyone saw in White. I had high hopes for him when we first got him, but it didn't take long for those hopes to be dashed as soon as I saw him play.7th round draft pick - check. When you have an article saying that our 7th round draft pick is a good chance to beat out our second stringer on a good chunk of guaranteed money... where does that sound strangely familiar? We are still all in on Tua being healthy this season, and hoping like hell the most action both these guys see is holding a clipboard gameday. Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on May 04, 2025, 02:11:01 pm Failed Jets QB - check Arguably the best QB you have had since Marino was a QB you picked up after the Jets cut him. He was your only significant upgrade and you went from last place in the league to winning the division. Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Downunder Dolphan on May 04, 2025, 10:14:53 pm Arguably the best QB you have had since Marino was a QB you picked up after the Jets cut him. He was your only significant upgrade and you went from last place in the league to winning the division. There's no comparision with Chad here. When fit he was already a proven commodity at the Jets, he led them to the playoffs a couple of times and was comeback player of the year. At times he was the NFL's passing rater leader, and completion percentage leader. We bought him in as a starting QB and to tutor Henne. Wilson was an outright failure at the Jets. He held a clipboard all last season as a third stringer for the Broncos. He's been brought here specifically as a backup option, nothing more. Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Sunstroke on May 05, 2025, 02:01:43 am There's no comparision with Chad here. When fit he was already a proven commodity at the Jets... Even when fit, his arm was a proven noodle...he couldn't throw the ball 40 yards if he was standing on the roof of a very tall building. Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Downunder Dolphan on May 05, 2025, 06:03:32 am Even when fit, his arm was a proven noodle...he couldn't throw the ball 40 yards if he was standing on the roof of a very tall building. Yeah, but he made completions with amazing accuracy, and he won games... enough to make two playoff series, even with his arm reduced to a noodle. Arm strength isn't everything. Unfortunately for Wilson, so far it's about the only thing he has going for him. Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: CF DolFan on May 05, 2025, 07:58:40 am Chad Pennington benefitted mightily from having Ricky and Ronnie and the Wildcat. No way he takes us anywhere without that sensational running game. Once people caught up to the wildcat, Pennington wasn't very effective. I'm not a Pennington hater but it always seems like he gets way more credit than deserved. We were nothing before the Wildcat that season. In fact, we were 0-2, Penny had like a 50% passing completion rate, and we were averaging 12 points a game. I will say that players really supported the guy and called him one of the best leaders they have played with so there is that.
Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Sibster on May 05, 2025, 01:06:13 pm Yeah, but he made completions with amazing accuracy, and he won games... enough to make two playoff series, even with his arm reduced to a noodle. Arm strength isn't everything. Unfortunately for Wilson, so far it's about the only thing he has going for him. When you dink and doink your way down the field with runs and short passes, your accuracy is going to look that much better. Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Denver2 on May 16, 2025, 07:42:16 pm Suck for Luck worked out so well for the Colts and the multiple Superbowl wins he led them to Had they been able to protect him it likely would have worked out well. He had some really good seasons. Not giving him protection has to be one of the biggest failures of the modern era. I wish Matt Moore didn’t win all those games that year and Miami landed luck but who am I kidding, we couldn’t protect Ryan Tannehill. Still odd that Tanny is arguably the second most successful QB from that draft. Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Denver2 on September 07, 2025, 02:14:00 pm Soo is he gonna go pro after this year?
Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Sibster on September 07, 2025, 05:11:01 pm Soo is he gonna go pro after this year? I wouldn't if I were him. Did you see him play against Ohio State? He looked awful. Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Denver2 on October 09, 2025, 06:00:30 pm I wouldn't if I were him. Did you see him play against Ohio State? He looked awful. F up for Fernando then? Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Sibster on October 10, 2025, 10:40:16 am F up for Fernando then? Tough call. I like the kid from South Carolina better. That being said, Arch Manning is terrible. He stands in the pocket too long, then heaves up ducks that get picked. That's what cost Texas the game against Florida. Texas was the preseason top ranked team in the nation. They have yet to beat a P4 team. Title: Re: Miserable For Manning Post by: Sunstroke on October 10, 2025, 01:31:21 pm Tough call. I like the kid from South Carolina better. I agree completely. I had Sellers as my top QB in this class to start the season. I just don't think his supporting cast is as good this season as last year. Still...I'd take him in a heartbeat. |