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"Too big of a name to be a clipboard holder" is supposedly why people like Sanders and Ewers fell. Ewers has been the golden boy since his High School days. Coming out of High School, he was the #1 recruit in the country, not the #1 quarterback recruit, but the #1 overall recruit in the United States.

I know Sanders brings a lot of distractions on his own but there are few bigger distractions than having a struggling QB and fans (and players) constantly clamoring for the back up. With that said, I have to wonder if the NIL is making that worse like they said. It is kind of awkward that guys who could be making many millions this year in college are now making less than 1 in the NFL. With NIL running out of control I'm not sure how you fix it at the NFL level.

You don't.   You keep order in your league and let chaos run amok in the other league.

I don't think NIL had anything to do with it.

But being drafted late might be the kick he needed to grow up and become a great QB.  Might not.  But a gamble worth taking with a late pick.  If he went 1st round his ego would be his demise.

It's an interesting theory. I can see it more with Sanders than with Ewers. I actually think Ewers will be quite coachable and will make a very good 3rd string QB to start his career and you can't ask for much better than McDaniels to find a way to use him.

I'm not sure how anyone would see the difference in reactions from Sanders (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/84xb65iCHyk) being drafted and Ewers (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2P6VyeAPkfM) being drafted (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Wdgfj_dw1cA) and think Ewers is the one excited and motivated to come to the NFL and work.  Ewers has the demeanor of someone whose dog was just put down.

Obviously different people respond to news differently, but if we're judging on limited intel, I would see no reason to consider Ewers "more coachable."

Well .... one openly acts entitled so history says that person is likely a struggle to coach. I loved Deion Sanders (I'm also FSU and a Braves fan) so I'm all about personality but he is one of the best ever. His son hasn't ever accomplished anything but acts like he has his daddy's talent. He's not even close.  Reports of his interviews with teams like New York just confirm it. 

I haven't seen anything from Ewers to say he's uncoachable. In fact quite the opposite ...  I watched him on John Gruden's QB show and he took to being tested and coached pretty well. 

I'd say it looks pretty "openly entitled" to respond to being drafted lower than you hoped like it's a death in the family, but that's me.

That's after the fact though even if true.

The truth is I don't agree with that statement for this reason. Most experts pretty much nail the general area where people are drafted ... especially the bigger names.  It was a huge deal Rodgers slid to 24th but a guy who was expected to be picked on day two is not allowed to be disappointed in falling to the 7th round? His agent, like all agents, had been speaking with GMs prior to the draft to gauge interest. That seems pretty extreme to me. There were people saying Sanders would slide before the draft but everyone blew them off as haters. he didn't have a n agent so no one had inside information that agents do. That doesn't mean he would slide like he did, but it does show he had red flags going into the draft that many were ignoring.

i did enjoy mel keiper losing his shit on tv, that was glorious

I would say it depends on how long it lasts.  And what he does with it.  Tom Brady was so pissed at his slide he wasn't even home when the Patriots called his dad lied and said he was in the bathroom when in fact he had taken a walk to blow off steam.  And that guy's career turned out okay.

As long as turns into motivation to improve being pissed off at your draft position is fine.  Many players use being passed by a team as motivation on game day.

The worst thing a player can do is listen to those saying he should have been drafted sooner.  The best thing he can do is hear all the reasons given he wasn't drafted sooner and improve those areas. 

However, with Ewers the worst possible situation could be that having fallen to the 7th round he started putting together his list of where we wanted to go as a UDFA and the Dolphins were on the top of the places he absolutely didn't want to go to.

I saw that too and I thought the same when I first saw it and then I read an article that mentions Ewers had just had oral surgery and could barely open his mouth. When viewed in that light, I think the tears were tears of joy, but he couldn't smile so it looked very strange. Sure, he was disappointed with being drafted in the 7th round, but I don't think he really expected to be the 2nd QB off the board like Sanders. Ewers knew that he was probably going to go in the later rounds and I read that his biggest disappointment was that there were several taken in the 6th round in front of him. He also mentioned that although he was unhappy with falling to the 7th round he was in fact excited about going to the Dolphins where he felt it was a good fit for him.

ESPN: Inside Quinn Ewers' draft process and post-slide motivation (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44902288/nfl-draft-quinn-ewers-miami-dolphins-texas-longhorns)

There was also another couple of articles that spoke with Ewers head coach at Texas and he mentioned how much that Ewers went through this year with Manning backing him up and calls for him to replace Ewers and the injuries that Ewers endured and how none of that got in the way with Ewers season and how much respect he and the Texas players had for Ewers.

And then there's this article that I read today. I think this or something similar is more likely the reason that Sanders was passed over and not simply because he was too big of a name to hold a clipboard. That particular reason was also called BS by the trainer working with Ewers by the way.

Report Shedeur Sanders was pissed at this NFC team after private interview (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-shedeur-sanders-was-pissed-at-this-nfc-team-after-private-interview/ar-AA1EgxXY?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=311ebd71840a4b719b1f4e0176cd50df&ei=50)

The first article has the literal quote in question:

The day after the draft, Slavin said he reached out to "half the league" to find out what happened.

"They thought he was a third- or fourth-round pick, but too big of a name to be a clipboard holder," Slavin said. "Which I think is chickens---."

I think the Browns and Dolphins both made good use of late round picks.  Both players have the potential to become starters and contribute significant to their franchise, both players are on a trajectory to be irrelevant and out of the league in two years. Round 5-7 is the time to select these types of players.  Concern that either could be a bust is unwarranted, particularly with Ewers.  There is NO SUCH THING AS A SEVENTH ROUND BUST.  They aren't expected to do much of anything. 

I had the same reaction watching him get drafted, I immediately regretted Miami drafting him.  If he had just looked a little excited, or at least relieved, then I would have been ecstatic with his pick.  Understandably he was the 14th and last QB drafted (#231), and LV had drafted two QB's at #213 and #215; but someone in his family should have taken him aside and told him how to act.  Sanders, for all his embarrassment in falling, acted like he was chosen first in the draft, I respected that.

I think a season on the bench will give him time to mature, and possibly make him an NFL QB.

In rounds 5-7, you want guys with first round talent that fell due to either injury or off field concerns.   Sanders fits that description, as did Cecil Collins and Rodrique Wright.

I kind of wanted Miami to take a swing on Sanders, I watched a lot of CU games and he is pretty good. The slide was punishment for his ego but I thought we could have used a QB with some cold weather experience.

I think the Ewers pick was fine though and he seems like an alright guy.

I think there is merit to this.

Sanders would be exciting as a flyer in a later round, if you have a QB.  It removes the pressure from the situation.  But if you have a shaky QB situation, now there's a guy and the fans are going to be causing a stink about it.

It would be exciting had Miami taken him, but the minute Tua throws a pick, the fans would be chanting for Sanders.  In our case, my issue with Tua isn't his play, but his ability to stay on the field.  I'm not sure how Sanders would play into that.  I assume if he was playing well, however, you wouldn't put Tua back in, and maybe that's a problem.

I feel like we should have taken a swing on Sanders after how yesterday went.

I'm fine with the swing we took instead. It's not like Sanders has done anything either.

Agreed. Ewers has been in the papers enough, could you imagine what it would be with Sanders on the team? People would already be screaming for Sanders to start this week in New England. We don't need that.