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Title: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: masterfins on May 16, 2025, 11:35:06 pm
https://youtu.be/xQtL0SMKzYQ

I came across this pre-draft discussion with Colt McCoy and Jay Gruden reviewing Ewer.  Gruden seems to be on the money IMO.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: CF DolFan on July 25, 2025, 02:34:12 pm
Ewers has been getting praised by many of the beat writers. Hopefully it is true because I think he is our future. This  is a Chris Perkins article but I saw that Omar and David Furones saying it too. 


Dolphins camp: QB Quinn Ewers is the star; plus stock up, stock down

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2025/07/25/dolphins-camp-qb-quinn-ewers-is-the-star-plus-stock-up-stock-down/

— Quarterback Quinn Ewers had a nice sideline throw to wide receiver Andrew Armstrong. Ewers later had a nice throw to wide receiver Theo Wease Jr. Later Ewers stepped up in the pocket to avoid pressure and completed a pass to tight end Tanner Conner. Through OTAs, minicamp and training camp, Ewers has seemed to learn quickly and not make the same mistake twice.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Pappy13 on July 28, 2025, 02:19:05 pm
Zach Wilson has received some praise of his own. I feel much better about the backup QB's this year than I did in the previous couple of years. I'm glad the Dolphins addressed that position, it's not just insurance in case Tua goes down, it also helps the team prepare when the backup QB's actually have command of the offense especially for 2nd and 3rd string players. I'm excited to see what the pre-season looks like when Tua's not in there.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: CF DolFan on July 28, 2025, 02:57:08 pm
Seems like Zach's has just recently been happening but yes, he has made some pretty good throws the last couple of days. While we have some issues it does appear our back-ups have been upgraded. Last year Tua sat out the start of training camp and both back-ups did not impress causing Mike White to get cut.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on July 29, 2025, 03:27:18 am
While we have some issues it does appear our back-ups have been upgraded. Last year Tua sat out the start of training camp and both back-ups did not impress causing Mike White to get cut.

It's probably worth keeping in mind our defensive secondary is severely downgraded this preseason compared to last season (between personnel changes and injuries).

I'm not saying this years backups so far aren't better than last preseason... but equally, they may not be if this is what's making them look better.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: CF DolFan on July 29, 2025, 09:04:30 am
I get that and have thought the same but am kind of looking for the glass half full on something with this team. Hahahaha

In all honesty if the QBs are picking up the offense already it is a plus because we've heard all too often how difficult it is learn.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Pappy13 on July 29, 2025, 10:44:49 am
It's probably worth keeping in mind our defensive secondary is severely downgraded this preseason compared to last season (between personnel changes and injuries).
Severely downgraded? I don't agree with that assessment and I think that probably stems from the difference in the way we see last year's defensive secondary. I personally was not impressed with neither Holland nor Ramsey last year. I don't think it's a stretch to think that Minkah is an upgrade over Holland. Losing Ramsey is a hit, but it remains to be seen how big of a hit. Kohu is injured right now, but the reports out of camp have been that the secondary has been holding their own. The fact is the Miami's secondary was not good last year and may not be that good this year either, but the hope is that the pass rush will be much improved to compensate. Hopefully we'll get a good look at the pass rush and secondary in preseason and we can make our own assessment.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: CF DolFan on July 29, 2025, 02:31:56 pm
They weren't good last year but are worse this year. It looks like we lost a safety today as projected starter Ashtyn Davis went out with a lower leg injury. The latest pick-ups seemed to be doing ok so we will see but so far the group hasn't been very good.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on July 29, 2025, 10:00:26 pm
It's probably worth keeping in mind our defensive secondary is severely downgraded this preseason compared to last season (between personnel changes and injuries).

I'm not saying this years backups so far aren't better than last preseason... but equally, they may not be if this is what's making them look better.

Camp reports tend to be written with rose colored glasses, rather than saying the secondary sucks they will talk about how good the WR is at getting open, rather than say the O line is inept they talk about how improved the pass rush is. 

This is true for all 32 teams


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on July 30, 2025, 01:44:30 am
Camp reports tend to be written with rose colored glasses, rather than saying the secondary sucks they will talk about how good the WR is at getting open, rather than say the O line is inept they talk about how improved the pass rush is. 

This is true for all 32 teams

One thing I have read is that there have been a lot of pre-snap penalties flagged (at all of the sessions to date).

It's something we really need to tidy up and eliminate before game 1 this season, because we don't need that same baggage that plagued us all last year.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on July 30, 2025, 11:31:38 am
One thing I have read is that there have been a lot of pre-snap penalties flagged (at all of the sessions to date).

It's something we really need to tidy up and eliminate before game 1 this season, because we don't need that same baggage that plagued us all last year.

They can't sugar coat everything. 


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: masterfins on July 30, 2025, 10:39:02 pm
I'm just hoping Tua gets his career ending concussion (because it's not if but when) within the first five games of the season; in order to determine if Zach Wilson or Quinn Ewer is a viable long term starting QB.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: CF DolFan on August 02, 2025, 05:49:12 pm
I’m not saying he’s the next big thing but wanted to share some Ewers throws so far.


https://www.instagram.com/reel/DM3YAOwSCj-/?igsh=ZTl6MWNwcDAyOHZq


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 02, 2025, 07:10:40 pm
I’m not saying he’s the next big thing but wanted to share some Ewers throws so far.


https://www.instagram.com/reel/DM3YAOwSCj-/?igsh=ZTl6MWNwcDAyOHZq

Either your wide receivers are really good or your secondary is really bad. 


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 03, 2025, 12:20:35 am
Either your wide receivers are really good or your secondary is really bad.
Over the past three years, I have seen endless commentary on how Miami's weapons are so amazing that any decent QB could lead the league in passer rating or yardage, so I guess it's the former!


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on August 07, 2025, 03:58:43 am
Since the pads have been worn, I've been reading reviews that the defense (specifically the pass rush) has got the better of the offense, especially the last couple of sessions.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: CF DolFan on August 07, 2025, 08:57:17 am
They are supposed to be really good but we will see this week as they practice and play against Chicago. The Bears have revamped their O-line and are supposed to be pretty good.

Keep an eye out for second year edge rusher Grayson Murphy as many are bragging on him including Bradley Chubb and Jaelan Phillips. Phillips said “Grayson is probably the best pure pass rusher on the team in my opinion.”
 


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Denver2 on August 10, 2025, 03:20:11 pm
Yeah Ewers ain’t gonna be the future of this team lol


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Pappy13 on August 10, 2025, 09:26:45 pm
Keep an eye out for second year edge rusher Grayson Murphy as many are bragging on him including Bradley Chubb and Jaelan Phillips. Phillips said “Grayson is probably the best pure pass rusher on the team in my opinion.”
He might be good rushing the passer but he's absolutely horrid against the run. Saw more than 1 play where he basically watched as guys ran past him.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Pappy13 on August 16, 2025, 03:44:19 pm
I've seen enough of Zach Wilson this preseason, I'd let Quin Ewers have the entire 3rd preseason game. He seems further along than Wilson in my humble opinion. If I had to fill out a depth chart right now, I'd have Ewers behind Tua and Wilson behind him and it pains me to say that as I thought Wilson would be leaps and bounds better. Wilson looks like a rookie and Ewers looks like the 3 year veteran.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Denver2 on August 16, 2025, 03:45:56 pm
I've seen enough of Zach Wilson this preseason, I'd let Quin Ewers have the entire 3rd preseason game. He seems further along than Wilson in my humble opinion. If I had to fill out a depth chart right now, I'd have Ewers behind Tua and Wilson behind him and it pains me to say that as I thought Wilson would be leaps and bounds better. Wilson looks like a rookie and Ewers looks like the 3 year veteran.

Wilson wasn’t terrible today but I agree Ewers had a great game.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 16, 2025, 04:26:20 pm
Let's not forget Preseason MVP Skyler Thompson before we start elevating day 3 picks to QB2 over veterans.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Pappy13 on August 16, 2025, 05:17:58 pm
Let's not forget Preseason MVP Skyler Thompson before we start elevating day 3 picks to QB2 over veterans.
Agreed, but then it's not so much how good Ewers is playing but rather how bad Wilson is playing. He looks scared to throw the ball. He's late with getting it out of his hand, has to see the receiver break open before he throws it. He takes too many sacks. This guy has had dozens of starts in the NFL and he's looked terrible in 2 preseason games now. Maybe his confidence is completely shot? I don't know what it is, but he doesn't look good at all. Again, it's not that I think Ewers has been that impressive, it's been how underwhelming that Wilson has been through 2 preseason games. That's why I'd give Ewers the entire 3rd preseason game to continue his growth. Maybe just tell Wilson he's the backup and can take the 3rd preseason game off to give Ewers more reps. I like what I have seen so far from Ewers and granted he needs a bunch more time to develop, but he's headed in the right direction, Wilson has stagnated or perhaps is even regressing.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: CF DolFan on August 18, 2025, 08:13:23 am
Let's not forget Preseason MVP Skyler Thompson before we start elevating day 3 picks to QB2 over veterans.
I don't disagree with what you are saying but Ewers does have more reasons to believe in the possible upside.

To start with, Ewers is more accurate than Skyler was. He played in a major conference and has played in some really big games. He led the Longhorns to the College Football Playoff in his last two seasons and secured the 2023 Big 12 title. He also held off the most propped up college prospective QB I can remember in Archie Manning. Mentally and skills, he is far ahead of where Skyler started.

I would keep things as they are but if this season goes south I'd expect he would get to play.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on August 18, 2025, 08:42:32 am
I would keep things as they are but if this season goes south I'd expect he would get to play.

If things go far enough south that Ewers is starting, it's likely that Tua is out injured, the season is basically over, and McDaniel is packing his bags or is already out the door.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Pappy13 on August 18, 2025, 12:11:39 pm
If things go far enough south that Ewers is starting, it's likely that Tua is out injured, the season is basically over, and McDaniel is packing his bags or is already out the door.
Tua being injured this year might not be the death knell it's been the last couple of years for a couple of reasons.

1. I think Wilson and Ewers are major upgrades over what was here the last couple of years. I'm not expecting Tua like performance from them if Tua does go down, but perhaps they can be effecient in the offense (see point 2).
2. I think the run game is going to be the key to the offense this year. The offensive line has been rebuilt and there's reason to believe that not only are they better as pass protection but better at opening up the holes for running backs. There's a little bit of a mean streak in the guys they have now that was lacking in years past in my humble opinion. The season hasn't started yet, but I'm optimistic. If both of those things are true, Wilson and Ewers might be good enough to win games they should win which hasn't been the case in the past.
3. The defense I think might be improved as well. This is going to be tricky because obviously the backfield is missing some big pieces (Kohou getting injured really hurt), but the defensive line could be stout and not give opposing RB's much room to run or opposing QB's much time to look for open receivers. Could be a bit of feast or famine with the D, but even if they give up some big plays, they could produce more turnovers and also force some 3 and outs and give the offense better field position to work with. It's tough to score starting from inside your own 30 every series.

It's a long season so don't expect it to look great from the jump, but lets hope that come December/January things are looking better than they have in the past. If that's the case, I can live with that.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 18, 2025, 04:04:11 pm
I don't think Wilson or Ewers are an upgrade over Teddy Bridgewater or Tyler Huntley.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: CF DolFan on August 18, 2025, 04:50:56 pm
I don't think Wilson or Ewers are an upgrade over Teddy Bridgewater or Tyler Huntley.
I'm not sure what you think happened but Huntley did very little but run and Teddy never amounted to much of anything here in Miami. Tyler played in 5 games and had 3 TDs and 3 INTs with a 64% completion rate. Bridgewater played in 5 games, threw 4 TDs and 4 INTs with a 62% completion rating.  They both seem to be on par with Zach Wilson's career and Ewer's keeps getting better with minimal snaps like you would expect a rookie to do.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 18, 2025, 05:46:56 pm
Oh, I'm not saying that Teddy or Snoop played well in Miami.  I'm saying that Wilson and Ewers would probably be worse.

Both Teddy and Snoop have played better as professionals than Wilson, and Ewers' preseason has been worse than Skyler Thompson's preseasons as a Dolphin.


Title: Re: Quinn Ewer - Pre Draft Analysis
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on August 18, 2025, 07:45:54 pm
Tua being injured this year might not be the death knell it's been the last couple of years for a couple of reasons.

1. I think Wilson and Ewers are major upgrades over what was here the last couple of years. I'm not expecting Tua like performance from them if Tua does go down, but perhaps they can be effecient in the offense (see point 2).
2. I think the run game is going to be the key to the offense this year. The offensive line has been rebuilt and there's reason to believe that not only are they better as pass protection but better at opening up the holes for running backs. There's a little bit of a mean streak in the guys they have now that was lacking in years past in my humble opinion. The season hasn't started yet, but I'm optimistic. If both of those things are true, Wilson and Ewers might be good enough to win games they should win which hasn't been the case in the past.
3. The defense I think might be improved as well. This is going to be tricky because obviously the backfield is missing some big pieces (Kohou getting injured really hurt), but the defensive line could be stout and not give opposing RB's much room to run or opposing QB's much time to look for open receivers. Could be a bit of feast or famine with the D, but even if they give up some big plays, they could produce more turnovers and also force some 3 and outs and give the offense better field position to work with. It's tough to score starting from inside your own 30 every series.

It's a long season so don't expect it to look great from the jump, but lets hope that come December/January things are looking better than they have in the past. If that's the case, I can live with that.


From what I've read of during the preseason practices and trials, I'd pretty much disagree with all of the above.

McDaniel is still well and truly hitched to the Tua/Tyreek/Waddle or bust train. Full stop.

The running game doesn't work without the deep threat, and take any of these guys out and the offense won't function. We've already seen this preseason nothing has really changed if the opposition stack the box, we still cannot run at will against it. Our O-Line still has no depth, the right side (Tua's blind side) looks porous without Jackson, and Brewer isn't a power blocker to open running lanes. We're gonna have the same problems as last year (including pre-snap penalties).

With our own D, I think our pass rush (should) be vastly improved with the addition of Grant and Jordan Phillips, along with the return of Chubb & Jaelan Phillips, plus a solid linebacker core... but our secondary is very suspect (even with Minkah back). It's gonna be feast or famine, and if Weaver makes the best of of it again, he should be a head coach somewhere next season.