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Title: Shame of the Game - at Bills
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on September 19, 2025, 02:59:27 am
I'm really, really tempted to give it to Tua after that back breaking INT at the end...

Ultimately I have to pin it on Zach Sieler. Invisible for most of the season, and then he commits the roughing the kicker penalty that changed the momentum of the game when things were going our way.


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - at Bills
Post by: Dave Gray on September 19, 2025, 08:36:45 am
There were three plays that, if you make the all, you probably win the game:

- Tyreek Hill drop on ball downfield that hits both hands cleanly.  Ended up punting and cost us points.
- Zach Sieler RTK penalty that ends with 7 Bills points.  I don't even understand why were were stacking the box there.  We didn't need a block; it's not like the Bills were backed up.  The risk/reward didn't make sense to even attempt that.
- Tua INT on the late drive to tie.

Ultimately, I think it's Sieler, because the defense was bad in general and Sieler hasn't been great.  But also, it came at a time in the game where it seemed like momentum was flipping and we could take the lead.

Tua is going to get a lot of crap, but he played fine to well.  He missed some throws, but most were on 2nd down and he made the 3rd down right after it so he masked his own stink.  Yes, the pick was bad at the end, but we always seem to put him in a position to have to come back to win at the end because we didn't do what we should be doing prior to that.  Realistically, even if Tua makes that play, by that point, there's no way we were winning that game; the Bills were just going to come kick an easy FG with the time left. 

The Sieler play feels like the most singular of the three that you can point to that actually lost you the game.


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - at Bills
Post by: Sibster on September 19, 2025, 09:08:53 am
I'm giving it to Seiler as well.   As much as I want to give it to Turnover Tua, the offense did enough to win the game.   The defense/special teams did not.


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - at Bills
Post by: Denver2 on September 19, 2025, 10:50:06 am
I will fourth, Sieler.

How come when we pay people we are rewarded with crap play?


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - at Bills
Post by: Dave Gray on September 19, 2025, 10:58:31 am
Our defense is terrible.  We have given up over 30 points in every game and I think we have played 2 bad teams.


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - at Bills
Post by: Sunstroke on September 19, 2025, 05:05:01 pm

When Sieler ran into the punter, I said to my TV screen..."congratulations on your impending Shame of the Game award."




Title: Re: Shame of the Game - at Bills
Post by: masterfins on September 19, 2025, 09:54:04 pm
Tough to decide between Seiler and Tua, but have to go with Seiler because that's an unforced error.

Tua throwing the pick was another example of him not being great when the game is on the line.  He's had years to become a great 4th quarter QB and still plays like a rookie or sophomore.


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - at Bills
Post by: dolphins4life on September 21, 2025, 12:41:16 am
Sieler