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Title: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Sibster on October 13, 2025, 03:35:40 pm
Took the Titans front office less than two seasons to decide that Brian Callahan is not their guy.   Cam Ward now joins a notorious club that also includes Trevor Lawrence, Bryce Young, and Caleb Williams.   QBs drafted number one overall whose head coaches got fired the same year.

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Title: Re: Titans fire head coach
Post by: Sunstroke on October 13, 2025, 07:02:25 pm

The moral of the story being:  If you coach a team that sucks badly enough to get the #1 pick, that #1 pick might not be able to save you...




Title: Re: Titans fire head coach
Post by: masterfins on October 16, 2025, 02:39:28 pm
^^^ I think that's the problem with the way teams draft players to appease their fan base, if you are bad enough to finish last you have more problems than a rookie QB can fix.  If your team is that bad you need to start with offensive and defensive lines when drafting; suffer through another bad year then you can still have a high draft pick to go after some offensive weapons.  And you need a really good GM that can find some older players that still have ability to play, and want to play.


Title: Re: Titans fire head coach
Post by: Sibster on October 16, 2025, 04:22:58 pm
^^^ I think that's the problem with the way teams draft players to appease their fan base, if you are bad enough to finish last you have more problems than a rookie QB can fix.  If your team is that bad you need to start with offensive and defensive lines when drafting; suffer through another bad year then you can still have a high draft pick to go after some offensive weapons.  And you need a really good GM that can find some older players that still have ability to play, and want to play.

And therein lies the problem with the Titans.   They drafted their franchise QB, but had already traded away their second and third round picks.  They had a mid second rounder that they used on an edge rusher, then went safety in the 4th round.   Very little done to retool the line to protect Ward.   Maybe they were thinking they can get by with his ability to scramble.


Title: Re: Titans fire head coach
Post by: Sibster on November 10, 2025, 03:48:12 pm
Giants have fired Brian Daboll after his team blew yet another multiple score lead in the 4th quarter.


Title: Re: Titans fire head coach
Post by: masterfins on November 12, 2025, 02:10:37 am
Giants have fired Brian Daboll after his team blew yet another multiple score lead in the 4th quarter.

Yeah that was the third come from behind loss for them, prior to losing all three game had them winning in the high 90%ile in the 4th quarter.  Daboll is an offensive guy, so it's too bad the defense let him down.  HC's get locked into their assistants and never want to fire them, seems he should have fired his DC.


Title: Re: Titans fire head coach
Post by: Sibster on November 12, 2025, 09:22:28 am
Yeah that was the third come from behind loss for them, prior to losing all three game had them winning in the high 90%ile in the 4th quarter.  Daboll is an offensive guy, so it's too bad the defense let him down.  HC's get locked into their assistants and never want to fire them, seems he should have fired his DC.

After his team had a 19-0 lead in the 4th quarter in Denver and lost 33-32, I would've gotten rid of the DC right there.  I wouldn't have even let him ride home on the team plane.   That was a defensive meltdown similar to the Oilers-Bills playoff game in 1992.  

And now Jaxson Dart is hurt and Russell Wilson is ineffective forcing the Giants to turn to Jameis Winston.  Not to mention Cam Skattebo is out for the rest of the season after a promising start.   Looking at their 2025 draft picks, it seems they made the same mistake the Titans did.   They drafted who they perceived to be their franchise QB in the first round and then failed to address their offensive line.   They took edge rushers, linebackers and Skattebo.   While it's obvious they need defensive help, if I'm taking my franchise QB in the first round, my next pick is going to be an offensive lineman, preferably a left tackle (or right tackle if said QB is left handed)



Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 06, 2026, 05:26:41 am
A real Black Monday this time... no pissing around, multiple sackings right almost immediately after the last game. McDaniel seems to have survived the purge of 2026.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-coach-gm-live-updates-rumors-firings-hirings/live/

Head coach vacancies

    Arizona Cardinals (fired Jonathan Gannon)
    Las Vegas Raiders (fired Pete Carroll)
    New York Giants (fired Brian Daboll)
    Cleveland Browns (fired Kevin Stefanski)
    Tennessee Titans (fired Brian Callahan)
    Atlanta Falcons (fired Raheem Morris)

General manager vacancies

    Atlanta Falcons (fired Terry Fontenot)
    Miami Dolphins (fired Chris Grier)


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: CF DolFan on January 06, 2026, 09:42:48 am
It wouldn't shock me to see Raheem Morris end up here as DC. He and Mike are very close after working together in Washington and Atlanta. Morris has said that he considers Mike his little brother. 


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 06, 2026, 09:53:57 am
It wouldn't shock me to see Raheem Morris end up here as DC. He and Mike are very close after working together in Washington and Atlanta. Morris has said that he considers Mike his little brother. 

I would love to see Jason Taylor get some kind of defensive line gig here after Joe Rose has gushed over his work with the Miami U defensive front immediately after the last game against Ohio State.

In direct comparison with our guys, they seem to be already at an NFL level knowing how to use their hands to advantage without giving away penalties. That's the sort of coach we need right now with our under-performing defensive front. 


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Dave Gray on January 06, 2026, 11:50:10 am
I'm usually skeptical of great talents being coaches.  I like medium talents as coaches.  I think when you are naturally gifted, you just can't teach that.


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Sibster on January 06, 2026, 01:41:52 pm
I'm usually skeptical of great talents being coaches.  I like medium talents as coaches.  I think when you are naturally gifted, you just can't teach that.

A handful of  star players have gone on to become great coaches.  But you're right.  More often than not, great coaches were bench warmers.


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 06, 2026, 08:26:55 pm
John Harbaugh just got fired by the Ravens!

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ravens-fire-john-harbaugh-baltimore-coach-nfl/


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Sibster on January 07, 2026, 08:53:28 am
John Harbaugh just got fired by the Ravens!

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ravens-fire-john-harbaugh-baltimore-coach-nfl/

This is a surprise.   Two Super Bowl rings (and got cheated out of a third), multiple playoff appearances, and his team had a down year because Lamar Jackson was hurt for a good period of it, and they fire him??

The Dolphins should fire McDaniel and bring this guy in.   Instant improvement.


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 07, 2026, 09:07:44 am
This is a surprise.   Two Super Bowl rings (and got cheated out of a third), multiple playoff appearances, and his team had a down year because Lamar Jackson was hurt for a good period of it, and they fire him??

The Dolphins should fire McDaniel and bring this guy in.   Instant improvement.

(https://i.imgur.com/PfbQXhE.gif)


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Pappy13 on January 07, 2026, 11:09:46 am
Harbaugh wouldn't come to the Dolphins. If the Dolphins fire their HC, they are probably well down the list to get a top HC like Harbaugh. I wouldn't be surprised if he took a year or 2 off from coaching.


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Dave Gray on January 07, 2026, 03:51:57 pm
I am firmly against swapping McDaniel for Harbaugh.  It seems like a lateral move, at best.


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: masterfins on January 07, 2026, 04:33:59 pm
Stefanski and Harbaugh are both great head coaches.  Teams will be fighting to get these two.  I think McDaniel was promised another year back when Grier was fired, that's probably why he was giving so many young players playing time.

But it would be great if Stefanski joined Miami as the Offensive Coordinator.


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 07, 2026, 07:06:59 pm
This is a surprise.   Two Super Bowl rings (and got cheated out of a third) [...]
THIS is a surprise.  When did John Harbaugh get a second Super Bowl ring, and how did he get cheated out of a third?


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Sibster on January 08, 2026, 12:08:26 pm
THIS is a surprise.  When did John Harbaugh get a second Super Bowl ring, and how did he get cheated out of a third?

I meant to say one ring and got cheated out of a second.   The 2011 AFC Championship game.  Prior to that missed field goal, Joe Flacco completed a pass to Lee Evans for the winning TD.   Evans caught the ball in the end zone, put his feet on the ground, turned and then Sterling Moore came and knocked the ball out of his hands.  The officials ruled the pass incomplete.


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Sunstroke on January 08, 2026, 12:51:09 pm

^^^ And you call that "getting cheated out of a Super Bowl."

So, basically, every team that loses a game gets cheated.



Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Sibster on January 08, 2026, 01:17:59 pm
^^^ And you call that "getting cheated out of a Super Bowl."

So, basically, every team that loses a game gets cheated.

That was a touchdown catch.   He had possession of the ball in the endzone and his feet on the ground.

The problem is, the TV networks and the officials were in bed with Brady/Belichick at the time.


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 08, 2026, 03:14:44 pm
You don't get a Super Bowl ring for winning the conference championship.

Given that the team he lost to didn't even win the Super Bowl, I fail to see how a bad call in the AFCCG means Harbaugh was "cheated out of a ring."


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Sibster on January 08, 2026, 03:29:48 pm
You don't get a Super Bowl ring for winning the conference championship.

Given that the team he lost to didn't even win the Super Bowl, I fail to see how a bad call in the AFCCG means Harbaugh was "cheated out of a ring."

Because the 2011 Ravens would've run roughshod over the 2011 Giants in the Super Bowl.   The Patriots did not match up well against the Giants.  The Ravens did.


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Dave Gray on January 08, 2026, 03:31:27 pm
This conversation is stupid.  We can't be crediting wins to games that coaches didn't even play in...what the hell are we talking about here?  This is a circular convo.


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Sunstroke on January 08, 2026, 04:00:51 pm
This conversation is stupid.  We can't be crediting wins to games that coaches didn't even play in...what the hell are we talking about here?  This is a circular convo.

Aw, come on, Dave.. I was just about to join this crystal ball analytics conversation and declare (vigorously) that Kyle Shanahan should have 8 Super Bowl rings at this point.  I was even going to get D4L to swear on a stack of bibles that it was the referees that screwed them...

...or was it the kicker?

I forget.




Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 08, 2026, 04:31:50 pm
This conversation is stupid.  We can't be crediting wins to games that coaches didn't even play in...what the hell are we talking about here?  This is a circular convo.
The Lions had a Super Bowl ring stolen from them in 2014 when the refs picked up the Pass Interference flag in their wild card playoff game against the Cowboys.
Had they won that game, they certainly would have gone on to beat the rest of the teams in the playoffs.


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Sibster on January 19, 2026, 09:43:01 am
Sean McDermott is out in Buffalo.


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 19, 2026, 10:23:07 am
Bills and Raven who the hell do you think you are gonna get that is better than who you fired


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: CF DolFan on January 19, 2026, 01:01:22 pm
Bills and Raven who the hell do you think you are gonna get that is better than who you fired
hahahaha ... my sentiments exactly. I have a best friend from Baltimore and he was happy when they fired Harbaugh. I told him welcome to mediocrity. I feel the same way about Buffalo.


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: Sibster on January 19, 2026, 01:02:06 pm
hahahaha ... my sentiments exactly. I have a best friend from Baltimore and he was happy when they fired Harbaugh. I told him welcome to mediocrity. I feel the same way about Buffalo.

Word is, Buffalo is interested in Brian Daboll.   Watch their defense end up in the crapper if they hire him.


Title: Re: Head coaches already getting fired
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 28, 2026, 12:24:19 pm
Denver fired OC Joe Lombardi.