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Looks like this isn't the only one.  And notice it's been happening more often in the border states (Arizona, New Mexico, California and Texas).   Here's a tip.   Don't employ illegals and you won't have to worry about being short staffed due to ICE raids.


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/17-old-mexican-chain-closes-003700975.html

This immigration policy is both cruel and economically stupid.

We are hurting people and going to end up spending way more money, while having places close down.

It's a disaster.

I don't think its the disaster the extreme left thinks it is. Every single president and many top leaders have said they would do this if elected but never did. Obama, Clinton and wife, Biden, Bushes, etc are all on video saying this. If it wasn't Trump and extreme liberals trying to stop them they would be celebrated. We've gotten to this point because no one would ever actually do it. There is no sense in trying to establish a better system of citizenship until you get all those who circumvented the process in the first place. Rewarding illegals only encourages others to do the same nad it pisses off those who did it the right way. 

There's the right way to do things, and there is the wrong way.

ICE is wrong...in pretty much every way.

1) False.  None of them are on video promising MASS DEPORTATION NOW, or Muslim bans, or saying immigrants are from "shithole countries," or any of the many other racist and xenophobic positions Trump regularly serves up.
2) Even if were true, "promising" to do something and actually doing it are two very different things!
For example, Trump promised to make Mexico pay for the wall, and to end the wars in Ukraine and Gaza, and to lower the cost of groceries immediately, and to bring Epstein's collaborators to justice, and he hasn't done any of it!

If you seriously think that Democrats would celebrate a masked goon squad snatching people off the street explicitly because of their race (https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/blog/supreme-courts-decision-racial-profiling-immigration-raids/) - but only if it were Kamala Harris ordering it - you are hopelessly lost in the Fox News koolaid; one small step from "White people are the only remaining victims of racism in this country."

That's exactly what I said. Yep, you got me. Hahaha BTW ... with all the crap Trump does and says why do you make stuff up? He never issued a Muslim ban ... ever. It was a country ban. In fact he is in favor of allowing a Muslim country to build an Air force base here in Idaho.

I completly get it. If you support them it doesn't matter whaty they say.

This is bullshit.

He issued bans to only countries that were predominantly Muslim and it was colloquially called "The Muslim Ban".

Here is his direct quote:

"a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on."



Immigration cannot go unchecked.  You need a border that it's secure.  However, immigration, as a concept is a US strength.  It makes our country better, cheaper, and more economically viable.  This policy is mean, cruel, racist towards non-white immigrants, and it's economically stupid and you're going to get hurt in the wallet because of it.  And the services you receive will suffer.  Good luck

LMAO ... so you're saying they were asking religions at customs? Thaty just silly. It's no secret terrorist countries tend to be Muslim and almost any country sending terrorists to the US are Muslim. We didn't ban peaceful Muslim countries so those Muslims were free to move about just like the rest of the civilized world.

I get liberal views although I don't agree with many as I used to be liberal myself. What I can never understand is the mindset that we have to be politically correct regardless of the detriment of society that Muslim. Even mor if you're gay. It says in the Koran either you follow Allah or you die with the rest of the infedels.   

Trump explicitly campaigned on a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States (https://web.archive.org/web/20190327091100/https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/07/donald-trump-calls-for-total-and-complete-shutdown-of-muslims-entering-the-united-states/?utm_term=.0e799cb9cf2c).

When asked how it would work, he said the following (https://web.archive.org/web/20160817064328/https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/08/donald-trump-explains-how-his-ban-on-muslims-entering-the-u-s-would-work/):

"They would say: 'Are you Muslim?'" Trump said.
"And if they said, 'yes,' they would not be allowed in the country?" Geist asked.
"That's correct," Trump said.

After he later reframed his Muslim ban as a "territory ban," he was asked if this was a rollback of the Muslim ban, to which he said (https://web.archive.org/web/20160801145151/http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/trump-i-m-running-against-hillary-not-rest-world-n615581):

"I actually don't think it's a rollback. In fact, you could say it's an expansion. I'm looking now at territory. People were so upset when I used the word Muslim. Oh, you can't use the word Muslim. Remember this. And I'm okay with that because I'm talking territory instead of Muslim," he said.

Trump later went to Rudy Giuliani and asked him (https://web.archive.org/web/20170129233559/https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/29/trump-asked-for-a-muslim-ban-giuliani-says-and-ordered-a-commission-to-do-it-legally/?utm_term=.1fd6c6eec4a0) to put together a commission to figure out a way to legally enact a Muslim ban.

Trump unquestionably promised a Muslim ban, and enacted it under a paper-thin pretense of being a "territory ban."  It is no different than the Jim Crow voting laws that didn't ban voting based on race - heavens no! - but instead required you to jump through a bunch of ridiculous hoops in order to vote, but only if you didn't have a grandfather that voted before 1860.  Which has nothing to do with "race," my friend!

That was literally the plan Trump campaigned on!
Of course, like the wall that Mexico is paying for, that was just another lie.

In other news of Democrats being Trump ... here is Biden calling for us to go directly after the Narco terrorists and tsake them ourt before they get here.

https://youtube.com/shorts/lNWgZImWuD0?si=JPhQc7ObQDQQMCYA

Yes, calling for an international cooperation in tackling drug trafficking is the EXACT SAME THING as changing our policy from incepting, boarding and searching suspected drug boats followed by arresting people if drugs are found and releasing those people who don't have drugs to blow up any ship suspected of carrying drugs and shooting any survivors in the water and losing absolutely all of our international cooperation. 

I'm not arguing in bad faith anymore.  It was my resolution years ago and I've stuck with it, which is why I haven't really argued on this board as much in the last several years.

But everyone knows that fighting the drug was doesn't mean blowing up boats without proper process.  This is just killing people.  They may be drug dealers.  They may not. They may not be bringing the drugs to the US in the first place.  Who knows.  This is just murdering people and it goes against what I fundamentally believe.

Trump just calls things other things and he thinks that allows him to break the law.  Drug traffickers are not terrorists.  Drugs are not weapons of mass destruction.

In theory, I wouldn't be upset if a president, in good faith, blew up a boat coming to the US that had an atomic weapon on it.  That's not what this is.

Everything he does is bad.  It's like he's trying to destroy the country, but in reality, he just doesn't care -- he doesn't care the cost -- power and control.  About 65% and growing have figured that out, but we still have a ways to go and then you can pretend you never supported him and that you're a good Christian who loves your neighbor.

That's just it. Everything he does isn't bad. Being a Christian means selecting a president that best aligns with your values. We aren't ever going to get a respected Pastor elected. No one looks to Trump for Christian values and some of the Christians he surrounds himself with are not resepected by much of the Christian community. I can guarantee you many, if not most, Christians were looking to others prior to Trump winning the Republican nomination. 

According to AI ...
"Provisional data from the CDC suggests approximately 76,500 total drug overdose deaths occurred in the 12-month period ending in April 2025."

I have to ask, if any other group of people were responsible for 76,500 American deaths in one year would you not want them eradicated? Personally, I think all drug dealers are terrorists if they are dealing things like opioids and crack. They are killing people.

How many of those 76,500 are directly or indirectly because of prescription drugs?

I'd wager it's way more than half.

The real mass murderers in this country are the Sackler family.

And you have.  Well done.

Bravo, sir!  Never have the words "well done" been done so well...

Especially if they lace those drugs with fentanyl. 

So if people killing themselves with drug overdoses justifies illegal murder of random people on boats, as well as international war, huge tariffs, and anything else Donald Trump pleases, then surely 27,000 deaths from gun suicide justifies drastic lethal action against gun manufacturers and resellers.

(https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2025/03/SR_25.03.05_gun-deaths_2.png?resize=420,440)

Makes zero sense... as usual. Can't compare to legally purchase items by people who developed mental illnees to the illegal drug trade. Besides ... we'd have to go after all the automakers and take all autos off the road due to the number of DUI and other traffic related deaths if we were being held to that standard. 

In other words, if we decriminalize drugs, then the federal government can care as little (and do as little) about deaths from drug overdoses as they currently do about gun suicides.  A win for the taxpayer, I suppose.

Among the many flaws with that comparison, the most immediate is that there aren't tens of thousands of people killing just themselves (and not others) with cars every year.

No, but many innocent people are killed by drunk drivers every year or criminals fleeing from arrest. Botrh of these are "choices" they make with their autos much like the suicide victims. Besides, it isn't like there aren't numerous other ways to off oneself. The only thing creating the sucide is mental illness. The gun is just a tool that was used.

Again, you see people killing themselves with guns as a non-issue that we should take no meaningful action to curtail, yet people killing themselves with drugs apparently justifies the government committing multiple crimes.

No, I just don't see your idea as a way to curb people from killing themsleves. It's a mental health issue. I've been there myself (It's how I found Jesus) and also have lost two people who I'm close with that chose to do it. Neither used a gun nor did they display any signs they were headed in that direction. In fact, two of the most positive guys I knew. One litterally just had asked me for a raise (that I said yes too) and informed me of their plans to advance the program he headed as director. He was very excited as to the future. A week later he checked himself into a local hotel and slit his wrists while his wife thought he was a doctors appt. The other was bouncing back from a divorce and had established a relationship with his first love. She went to meet him at his house and found him hanging in the garage. Taking guns from innocent people won't change that any more than making drugs illegal stopped people from getting them. I can't fopr the life of me undersatnd how any rationale person buys into that theory. Criminals don't follow laws and if people want to cause destruction they typically do one way or the other.

I repeat: you see it as an issue that we should take no meaningful action to curtail.  Your only solution to gun violence suicides is Thoughts & Prayers.

It is ironic that you are arguing "Criminalizing guns won't work any better than criminalizing drugs" at the same time you not only support the criminalization of drugs, you endorse our government committing crimes to enforce such criminalization.