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Even if he never pans out, he'll cost you next to nothing and if he does pan out then I don't mind paying him $60M. If they picked this guy up in the draft rather than signing Willis, I would have been totally on board. 6-6 and 227. Sign me up. You can always teach him to play the position like they did with Josh Allen.

Dolphins host intriguing QB with legendary combine for draft visit (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/dolphins-host-intriguing-qb-with-legendary-combine-for-draft-visit/ar-AA1ZWb4p?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=69cda711804d4eab80baa00c628bea47&ei=18)

The player in question is QB Taylen Green from Arkansas, since Pappy didn't mention it.
From the cited article:

A savvy reader might wonder, "Who was the #1 QB all-time in this metric?"  That would be Anthony Richardson of the Colts, drafted 4th overall in 2023.  And if you'd rather have the best combine QB (instead of the 2nd-best), Richardson is probably available for whatever pick you would spend to get Green!  Why is that relevant?  Well, as the article continues...

I grant that it is entirely possible that Green will be unlike almost every other questionable passer not named "Josh Allen" and develop into an elite passer at the pro level.
But it's probably not likely.

But it only costs you a draft pick and rookie contract to find out and in my opinion the chances that Malik Willis turns out to be elite passer at the pro level are about the same despite what the Miami current brain trust thinks. Anthony Richardson has already had plenty of chances to show what he can do in the pros and he's been proven to be inadequate. That being said, if Richardson would want to sign a 1 year minimum salary to play for the Dolphins in 2026, I wouldn't have had a problem bringing him in to compete either, but I certainly wouldn't trade a draft pick for him.

Don't get me wrong, now that they have Willis, it doesn't make sense to spend a draft pick on Green or bring in Richardson for that matter in my humble opinion, but if they didn't it would have.

An athlete playing QB.   A lot of guys who fit that description come to mind.   Tim Tebow, Akili Smith, Michael Vick, I could go on and on.

You're forgetting the guys that are playing now at a high level. Mahomes, Allen, Jackson. Those are some of the best athletes at the position and all of them have made it deep into the playoffs. I'm not suggesting that Taylen is in those guys league, he's a project at best but as I said it would only cost you a draft pick and rookie contract to see if he can be coached up.

I saw us drafting Drew Allar from Penn St in the 5th. He's 6'5" and over 230 lbs and fits the Josh Allen mold. They both have size, elite arm strength, and mobility.

^^^ I've been mocking the heck out of Allar to Miami in the 4th

^^^^

Same for me.   The 4th round is where you can get some pretty intriguing prospects. 

^^^ Might also have something to do with having very little confidence in Malik Willis.

You spend literally all the money you had available for the season on him.  If the GM isn't 100% certain in Willis he should be let go. 

Finding a great QB is a bit like winning the lottery.  You take as many spins of the wheel as you possibly can. It doesn't matter if you have Brett Favre on your team, you still draft Aaron Rogers. It doesn't matter if you have Joe Montana, you still draft Steve Young. It doesn't matter if you have Drew Bledsoe, you still draft Tom Brady.

Which one of those 3 GMs should have immediately let go of their starters?

Not saying there is anything wrong with looking for a QB when you already have one you like.  But Sunstoke said the Dolphins have very little confidence in Willis.  If they don't have a shit ton of confidence in him, he should not have been signed for all that money.  

They paid seasoned vet money to a guy with less than a season of playing time. 

Actually Sunstroke said HE didn't have much confidence in Willis. I'm absolutely certain that Hafley and Sullivan have confidence in Willis. Too much confidence in my opinion.

Okay that makes more sense. 

Community note: Steve Young was drafted by Tampa and then traded a couple of years later after the Bucs drafted Vinny Testaverde.

Because Steve Young pulled a John Elway/Eli Manning stunt and opted to play in the USFL.

damn, you're right, i always forget creamsicle steve young

Hahahaha .... I only remember because of the excitement everyone had for Vinny. Unfortunately that never panned out for them either.

The Bucs have a history of first round QBs not panning out.   It says a lot when Tom Brady happens to hold all their franchise records.

Yep ... it's no coincidence that the good teams time and time again have people who are pretty good at making picks. Tampa has been lucky to skate by with a great defense and Brad Johnson, as well an elder Tom Brady.

Tom is a pretty good QB, he holds all the franchise records in NE in well, in fact he holds almost all post season NFL records and a fair amount of regular season ones as well,

When a fortysomething player who played three seasons in your uniform holds every QB record in your franchise history, that is just sad.

Actually Jameis Winston holds most of Tampa's QB franchise records, I don't think Tom holds any of note. 

Tampa actually drafted some pretty notable QBs over years... who all did better elsewhere.

I still think Doug Williams is criminally underrated: he seriously did the hard yards as much as any NFL QB with no real support (apart from the GM who recruited him). He paid the price physically as well as all the racial shit that was still being thrown around at the time. He managed to do the impossible while he was there: he somehow made them relevant against all the odds when they were fully bred habitual losers struggling to win a game, then they were in the playoffs, one game off the Superbowl. Then when they tried to cheap-skate him and he left, they promptly went back to the bottom. He already proved he was worth more than that, and that was etched in stone after a Superbowl MVP performance.

I agree completely with your assessment of Doug Williams.   Amazing player who didn't get the accolades he was due... from more than one team as the Redskins pretty much jettisoned him after that Super Bowl MVP performance.

I remember being in 11th grade at the time, and my English teacher that year was black and really big into black history and black literature.  It was around the time of MLK's birthday and she was having us read all these stories from black authors (Langston Hughes, Richard Wright, Maya Angelou, Dick Gregory), and the day after that Super Bowl, she had written on her chalkboard "Doug Williams #1" as I came into class.   She made it a point to mention to the class that times are changing and now a black QB can not only win a Super Bowl but break all sorts of records while doing it.  

A real eye opener.