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Yesterday, a Texas judge overturned the NCAA's decision to deny Texas Tech QB Brendan Sorsby another year of eligibility because he bet on college football games and even his own team.   

I am shocked and appalled that this happened.   I remember not too long ago that if you were gambling and/or fixing games, you would be banned for life.

What is this country coming to?   

I think the CFP, and not the NCAA, is going to shut this idiocy down before it torpedoes any credibility the NCAA might still have.

Breaking News:  Massive Ice storm in hell.

In other news:  I agree with the NCAA.

College sports as we knew them are dead and gone.  Now you have athletes entering the transfer portal and being offered millions in NIL in sports that barely generate any revenue.  And you now have guys who bet on their own team and are still allowed to play.

I think whichever court ruled that the NCAA could not deny Sorsby eligibility would rule just as quickly that the the CFP cannot deny Sorsby (or Texas Tech) eligibility.

How exactly could a judge do that?  The CFP has a very subjective selection criteria as evident by teams going undefeated and still not invited.     

Also, I doubt a judge can order a college football team to play Texas Tech. And several schools have stated that they are canceling all games against texas tech in all sports.   

The NCAA is now run by whatever the teams want to do. They all have local judges in their back pockets to overrule pretty much everything. If someone is ineligible for transfer the school who wants them has a judge overrule it and so on. It's beyond ridiculous. The NCAA is the only billion dollar industry who have no rules to follow.

The NCAA is going to appeal this decision.   And the appellate court that will be hearing the case has a panel of three judges that are all UT graduates.   That tells me this decision will be overturned.

I don't disagree people are saying that but I'll believe that when I see it.

It's already on the schedule and it's after the National Championship. Will have little effect on him.

Edited to say the official trial for the lawsuit has been scheduled for February 8, 2027, well after the 2026 college football season concludes.

They may have all gone to UT for undergrad, but they all went to texas tech for law school. 

The appeal of the TRO will likely be heard well before the season. 

Any action that the CFP could take wouldn't have the intended effect if it's not clearly and intentionally retribution for Sorsby.

Like, if CFP excluded Texas Tech but the Red Raiders also just weren't very good, then it's not clear that excluding them is a response to Sorsby, and maybe the CFP doesn't even care about him?  It's somewhat like intentionally hitting a batter in baseball: if it's looks like it's a genuine accident, then you aren't sending the intended message.  You're just giving the opponent a free base.

These programs all have existing contracts to play games, and any school that cancels a contracted game would need to provide a legally justifiable reason to do so.  So again: if the courts have ruled Sorsby can play, they would also likely rule that a school which breaks their contract because they don't think Sorsby should play (or: for "no reason") owes Texas Tech whatever penalties are laid forth in that contract.

Although there is judicial review the NCAA suspending a player for misconduct.  There is no judicial review of the NCAA when they vacate a team's wins.  And they do have a history of vacating wins for considerably minor infractions.  (See UMASS women's tennis championship over a phone bill.)

NCAA's next step should be to vacate all wins of Texas Tech in all sport during the time Sorsby was a student at the school citing the unreliability of the results.       

Courts tend to look dimly on organizations retaliating against parties that have won judgements against them.

There is a fundamental conflict here, which is that it is impossible for NCAA/CFP/etc. to make an example of Texas Tech while somehow also leaving ambiguity as to what it is that they are doing.  Any action that is taken that is clearly linked to Sorsby will invite a reaction from the courts.

To make this point easier to understand, imagine that this ruling was instead that a gay player must be allowed to remain on the team.  The CFP or NCAA then immediately then coming out and finding some reason to disqualify that team or their wins would be obviously seen as an attempt to sidestep the ruling, and would invite a much worse backlash from the courts.  This is functionally no different (from the standpoint of the court).

You and I can disagree with the court's ruling, but that doesn't mean it can be ignored or disregarded.  If the NCAA or CFP try to sidestep this ruling and punish Texas Tech anyway, it's not going to work out well for them.

I really don't care for the NCAA, but this ruling is bad for all of sports.

So the Big 12 filled suit against Texas Tech for the Brendan Sorsby situation saying they would ban them from the championship game and sanction them heavily if he played.  In response, Texas Tech and Sorsby agreed to part ways.  Sorsby will file paperwork to enter the supplemental draft.

Now, if you're the Dolphins, you have to take a long look at this kid.  He's got the talent and the tools to play in this league.   The question is, what pick next year would you be willing to give up for him, gambling aside?

Wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.  While it is possible he might turn his life around, I wouldn't bet on it. 

You can bet on this.  The team that gets him will put language in his contract saying he cannot gamble online or over the phone and cannot enter a gaming establishment.   And the team security force will watch him like a hawk

I don't think so. The risk is not worth the reward for us right now. It's a new regime and they seem to be doing things correctly. It's going to be a bumpy season and there is absolutely no reason to add drama and distraction to this team. I mean ... we just got rid of Tyreek and it feels so good to not have drama.

*IF* a team takes him they will put the standard language of a rookie contract with no extra clauses or conditions as to do otherwise would be a violation of the CBA.

I could see the Browns drafting him. lol

Next question: will Sorsby start the season suspended?  Yes, the league can suspended him.  See Pryor example. 

Are you sure that's a CBA violation?  Teams have put clauses in players contracts before.   See Lawrence Phillips example

Phillips was drafted before the rookie pay scale went into effect. 

I checked into this.   Turns out teams can add clauses to contracts for drinking but not for gambling.   Hopefully that will change with the next round of CBA negotiations because if I'm paying a guy millions and I know he's had problems with gambling in the past, I wouldn't want him in a casino, racetrack, OTB parlor or the like.

That being said, I'm hearing that several teams are willing to part with a day two pick to get this guy.   Let's see what happens come supplemental draft day.

Turns out it's gonna be even worse.   The NFL opted not to hold a supplemental draft this year.   That means Sorsby has to sit out.

Which is what the NCAA originally ruled. 

The NFL sent a clear message.   Doing something to compromise the integrity of the game can and will have severe repercussions.  

Here's a link to the tweet that has the actual letter.   

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/2069478343611748532?s=20

He’s taken no accountability and is hiding behind the phrase “addiction” which we all know is more of a weakness and a poor choice than a sickness. It’s shameless and a harbinger of poor future decision making and it would be reckless for the NFL to allow him into the league at this point.  There's a high chance he does something to harm the integrity of the sport and that would get him banned for life.    The best thing to do is keep working out and either get help or maintain a low profile.   Go play in the CFL if he can.  But by all means, stay away from anything gambling related.  Then hopefully by the time the 2027 NFL Draft rolls around, he won't be seen as damaged goods anymore.

Can't a team just sign him as a UDFA?

I would think he would have to fall through a draft first to become signing eligible.

Nope.  In order to be a UDFA you need to be eligible to be drafted and then go undrafted.  At the time of the NFL draft he was not eligible to be drafted as he still had NCCA eligibility and had not gone through the process of declaring as a junior.  

Nope.   Gotta go through the NFL Draft process first.   He missed it.   He can sign with the CFL at any time but who knows if the CFL will even want him.

He'd make a decent back-up for Saskatchewan of the CFL...

...check that. The CFL says he can't play in the CFL this season either. Saskatchewan will need to look elsewhere for their clipboard holder.

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Looks like they are taking the same precautions as the NFL.   This guy is radioactive right now.   By next spring, there will have been several other scandals going on and this situation probably will blow over.   He just needs to keep a low profile and stay in shape. 

His career is finished before it started.

He is back to the exact same spot he was before the corrupt Texas judge decided to Sorsby was a victim. 

He can take out loans and finish his degree, stay in shape and get treatment for his problem.  If he does that he will be drafted in 2027.  He will then need to earn his spot as a backup.  And eventually he will get his chance.   What he does with it is up to him. 

It will be interesting to see if he is invited to the combine. 

I think this is the key. The NFL would like for him to show some progress in dealing with his addiction before joining the NFL. This will be either exactly what he needs or he won't be putting on an NFL uniform. His choice.