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Title: Edge
Post by: BillKilla on February 20, 2006, 02:02:49 am
Now that were back to one back we might want to go after EDGE


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: bsfins on February 20, 2006, 02:51:37 am
I still say nay,nay....He's 28 so he's younger than Ricky,yet he will want a boatload of money...I say go through the draft,or a cheap free agent.The main reason I didn't mind keeping Ricky,because his talent,waay exceeded his salary.

Ricky wasn't the Main Man anymore,if he did (what he ended up doing),it wasn't near the big of a deal.In a sense I'm glad the Ricky saga is over,for now atleast.


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: Brian Fein on February 20, 2006, 06:46:35 am
I'd still love to have Edge, but I still don't think its a smart move for the future of the team.

I think we'll end up getting a Willie Parker type like Travis Minor to back up Ronnie, and Ronnie will get 300+ carries this season.  He can handle it.  At least he knows early that he has to condition himself early...


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on February 20, 2006, 07:21:24 am
Suddenly, picking up Edge makes a lot more sense. 


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: Predatory_Fins on February 20, 2006, 07:48:30 am
KAY JAY HARRIS is already a dolphin, a player that would have been a day one pick if it werent for his age.


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: TonyB0D on February 20, 2006, 08:17:27 am
we're obviously not ever getting Edge, so there's no need to even discuss it. 

and i dont even wanna hear about kay-jay....he sucks.  i'd rather have Clarett


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: Predatory_Fins on February 20, 2006, 08:18:43 am
we're obviously not ever getting Edge, so there's no need to even discuss it. 

and i dont even wanna hear about kay-jay....he sucks.  i'd rather have Clarett

I know you don't mean that, because thats just stupid, I did think we had a scum-back position.  If we need anyone robbed, we'll give mo a call.


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: Dphins4me on February 20, 2006, 09:26:47 am
Now that were back to one back we might want to go after EDGE
Why?  Do you realize that Miami would have over 40 million in two back if they signed Edge? 

Miami does not need a starter.   They will need a back up & I think KJ Harris can probably fill the void as a backup.


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: BillKilla on February 20, 2006, 10:39:23 am
When did Kay Jay start getting so much love ?


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: Dphins4me on February 20, 2006, 10:42:07 am
When did Kay Jay start getting so much love ?
I think he can be a quality back up.   Nothing special, but someone that you can use to give Brown a rest from time to time.


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: Dave Gray on February 20, 2006, 10:43:51 am
As little sense as getting Edge was before -- I think it makes less sense now.  At least before, we had the trade value of Ricky...with that lost, Edge's cost to the team would be far too great.


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: Sunstroke on February 20, 2006, 10:49:49 am
I do think, with Ronnie showing a little problem with injuries last year, that getting a serviceable backup RB would be a good idea. Edge isn't the answer though. Maybe Miami looks at one of the two Ravens RBs on FA, Jamal Lewis or Chester Taylor. Maybe they could look at a guy that I really think would be a decent backup, Houston's Jonathan Wells. There will also be some decent 2nd-4th round RBs in the draft, should Nick decide to go that direction.




Title: Re: Edge
Post by: DolFan619 on February 20, 2006, 12:33:24 pm
     Bringing in Edge makes about as much sense as bringing in Ray Lewis.  Edge would cost way too much to be a backup runner.  There will be some good backs in the later rounds of draft if Coach Saban wants to go that direction.  Either Tennessee's Gerald Riggs Jr. or LSU's Joseph Addai.


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: MaineDolFan on February 20, 2006, 09:02:36 pm
Why do we suddenly need two top tier running backs to compete?  Having two last year was something most NFL teams never get a whiff of.  I'm confused why people would want to spend so much money carrying two top flight backs and wasting that cap space.  Ronnie Brown and a suitable backup (a Travis Minor type) is more than fine. 

Worry more about the defensive secondary and defensive line.  Last time I checked we ran the ball pretty well and couldn't stop the run to save our lives last season.  Heath freaking Evans put up over 100 yards on us last season.


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: Sunstroke on February 20, 2006, 09:27:20 pm
Why do we suddenly need two top tier running backs to compete?  Having two last year was something most NFL teams never get a whiff of.  I'm confused why people would want to spend so much money carrying two top flight backs and wasting that cap space.  Ronnie Brown and a suitable backup (a Travis Minor type) is more than fine. 

I agree, which is why I'd love to see Miami get someone like Jonathan Wells on the cheap. We need someone who will at least be serviceable, simply based off Ronnie having some small injury problems last year...and I think Wells is serviceable enough to step in for a short period if Brown goes down, and decent enough to use him as a change of pace back to give Brown in-game breathers.

Something on the cheap is key though... Miami has far more important need areas to spend its money and high draft picks on.





Title: Re: Edge
Post by: Phishfan on February 21, 2006, 11:33:57 am


Worry more about the defensive secondary and defensive line.  Last time I checked we ran the ball pretty well and couldn't stop the run to save our lives last season.  Heath freaking Evans put up over 100 yards on us last season.

I keep bringning this up, but I guess people don't believe me. Our defense actually was tied for 7th in the league for YPC. We only gave up 3.7 per attempt. That is pretty good actually. The run problem was more of a reflection that we could not stay on the field offensively. We gave teams more running attempts than actually giving up yards per attempt.


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: run_to_win on February 21, 2006, 03:01:50 pm
Evans ran for 84 yards on 17 carries with a long of 21.


   
Mike Anderson   Broncos   4   5   1.3   0   3   
Curtis Martin   Jet   31   72   2.3   0   14   
Stephen Davis   Panthers   16   36   2.3   0   5   
Willis McGahee   Bills   31   86   2.8   1   11   
E Graham..   Bucs   17   50   2.9   0   16   
Priest Holmes   Chiefs   18   90   5.0   2   35   
Antowain Smith   Saints   6   33   5.5   0   23   
Warrick Dunn   Falcons   25   88   3.5   1   21   
Heath Evans   Patriots   17   84   4.9   0   21   
Rueben Droughns   Browns   30   166   5.5   1   75   
LaMont Jordan   Raiders   23   97   4.2   2   26   
Willis McGahee   Bills   27   81   3.0   0   10
LaDanian Tomlison   Chargers   21   75   3.6   0   16
Cedric Houston   Jets   15   84   5.6   0   17
Travis Henry   Titans   16   65   4.1   0   17
Patrick Pass   Patriots   9   26   2.9   0   11
Opponent #1 rb      306   1138   3.7   7   75



Tatum Bell   Broncos   13   47   3.6   0   30
D. Blaylock   Jet   2   14   7.0   0   11
DeShaun Foster   Panthers   8   27   3.4   0   9
S Williams..   Bills   1   2   2.0   0   2   
Michael Pittman   Bucs   15   127   8.5   1   57
Larry Johnson   Chiefs   23   93   4.0   1   19
Aaron Stecker   Saints   4   23   5.8   0   6
Justin Griffith   Falcons   7   20   2.9   0   7
Mike Cloud   Patriots   7   8   1.1   0   7
J.... Wright   Browns   13   8   2.7   0   5
S Wiliams..   Bills   3   1   0.3   0   4
Lorenzo Neal   Chargers   2   6   3.0   0   5
BJ Askew..   Jets   4   5   1.3   0   2
Chris Brown   Titans   7   18   2.6   0   5
Kevin Faulk   Patriots   6   12   2.0   0   5
Opponent #2 rb      105   411   3.9   2   57


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: fyo on February 21, 2006, 07:41:58 pm
I keep bringning this up, but I guess people don't believe me. Our defense actually was tied for 7th in the league for YPC. We only gave up 3.7 per attempt. That is pretty good actually. The run problem was more of a reflection that we could not stay on the field offensively. We gave teams more running attempts than actually giving up yards per attempt.

If you look at some "advanced" metrics (somewhat similar to what a passer rating does for quarterbacks), FootballOutsiders have Miami as the 3rd best in run blocking and 4th in adjusted sack rate.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/dl.php


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: Sunstroke on February 22, 2006, 06:31:02 pm

With Reggie Wayne coming to an agreement with the Colts today, is there anyone here who DOESN'T expect Indy to slap the tag on Edgerrin now? Seems like a no-brainer to me.





Title: Re: Edge
Post by: JVides on February 22, 2006, 06:55:33 pm
Quote
With Reggie Wayne coming to an agreement with the Colts today, is there anyone here who DOESN'T expect Indy to slap the tag on Edgerrin now? Seems like a no-brainer to me.

That seems to happen to the poor guy every year. (Not that $8 mil is anything to scoff at...)


Title: Re: Edge
Post by: dolfan13 on February 22, 2006, 07:16:58 pm
they can't afford it... the tag will cost them too much against the cap now that peyton has lined his pockets with most of it. he's gonna be a veteran cap casualty, but his asking price is going to be high (too high for the dolphins to afford that is for sure).