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Barry Bonds sucks.  Plain and simple.

Read the article for yourself.

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how does random author seem to know all this stuff that Bonds vehemently denies?

I'm wondering about the validity of this.

I think if it is true, MLB should fire him out of the league.

They followed this story for years and are saying that the Government has ceized all of this stuff. They'd be risking their entire acreers if it weren't true, so most people would believe them. That, and Bonds is an obvious juicer.

They gathered this information the same way any writer would. They interviewd people, looked at public records from the BALCO hearings, etc. That said this story is not news to me. I have believed Bonds to be a juicer for years now.

Nobody other than the most naive of the Giants' fans believes he's played drug-free, and I'm glad to see that his "assumed" indiscretions will soon become "public record" indiscretions. No call from the Hall, no heartfelt send-off from the league or his organization...nothing. Nobody deserves "nothing" more than Barry... He killed the Padres so much for sooooo long with all that "go get 'em" juice pumping through his veins that I hope they suddenly pass a bizarre new reactionary law that makes Bonds' steroid crimes punishable by public castration. On pay-per-view...

I was one of those that held the candle.  In this country its innocent until proven guilty.  Most people were looking at his 1986 Topps Traded rookie card and saying "damn, look how big he got!" followed by "he MuST be juicing..."

I don't follow that logic.  I tend to think that until he tests positive, you can't say he did.  People can pack on that muscle across 20 years of hitting the gym, and if I'm a power slugger who wants to reach greatness, you best believe I'm lifting daily.

It is possible to pack on muscle without juice.  I don't consider myself naive.  I'm disappointed to find out that the glimmer of hope I held out is proven to be wrong.... :(

In America, you are innocent until proven guilty by the COURTS. This is a matter of public opinion and he is guilty as sin.

I don't give a crap about OPINION.

Its my OPINION that everyone's pissed off about suspicion.  You can't comdemn a guy based on circumstance or suspicion.

As a fan, sure you can. I mean, Bud Selig can't suspend a guy based on his opinion or circumstantial evidence, but fans can boo him based on what they feel, regardless of fact.

The Hall of Fame is also public opinion and while Bonds will get in no matter what, guys like Raffy and McGwire may have to buy a ticket to get in.

FTR, Bonds actually admitted steroid use when he says he thought the clear was flaxseed oil. Everything else is circumstantial, but there is so much of it no one would feel bad calling him a user.

This guy's gonna end up like Jim Bouton after he authored Ball Four

Good story!

If you were slow to comply or if you tried to explain why it wasn't such a good idea, Bonds would get right up in your face, snarling, calling you a "punk bitch," repeating what he wanted and saying, "Did I f------ stutter?" You had to suck it up and take the abuse and the humiliation -- everyone did.

Thats funny.

Can you condemn him on the fact that his trainer had calendars detailing Bond's cycles?

I guess i'm just disappointed that a guy that kids can look up to proves to be a bitch-ass cheater scumbag.

I can't believe that in his mind, its OK to ruin history...

I knew OJ was innocent also. I agree.  :D

The guy is human. Not everyone lives by the same moral standards. I have said it before and will continue to say so, just because someone is an athlete there is no reason to put them on pedastools and idolize them.

The only stance i take pro-Bonds is that his use was during a time that these drugs were not illegal. He had every right to juice up as far as baseball rules go and MLB fed the beast, namely Selig by seeing the growing attendance. But, his refusal to stand up and take accountability for his actions is deplorable. Look, Giambi admitted it, the public embraced him and it is now almost a forgotten thing. It took fans a very short period of time to accept him again.

Bonds is a cheater, a liar, and an asshole. The trifecta!

This isn't exactly true.  Baseball didn't have anything in place for a portion of those years.  Baseball also didn't have anything in the rules about smoking crack, main lining some heroin and then hitting the field.  If it's illegal in "real life" - guess what?  It's cheating.

Crack is only legal in the Blue Jays front office.  :D

Well - you are speaking about Canada.  God knows what they do up there.

The guy packed on 15 pounds of pure muscle in ten weeks.  It wasn't over 20 years, or even several years.  We're talking months. 

I'm not sure it's being illegal in life has anything to do with baseball.  Speeding's illegal.  And that's not cheating. No one is going to keep you out of the Hall of Fame for not respecting US law.  Unless it's murder or rape.  But drug use?  Even if he did cocaine or heroine, it's irrelevant to whether he's a cheater in baseball or not.

Admittedly, steroids impact baseball performance whereas speeding doesn't.  But baseball has no grounds to suspend Bonds or alter the records during the years in which steroids wasn't banned. 

Fans of course have the right to boo him and not respect his records.  And HOF voters have the right to diminish his accomplishments given that they know he was using steroids.

I think Bonds is still impressive since he just proved he was the best of the steroid users.  Bonds should release a song in the tradition of McLusky's "To Hell with Good Intentions"

My roided-up swings are better than your roided-up swings
I've got more home runs
than a home run derby
Sing it.

My standing there doing nothin' is better than your standing there doin' nothin'
I got more forced walks
than a drunk driver pulled over by the highway
Sing it.

My cheating is better than Enron's cheating
Cause while they're on trial or sitting behind bars
I'm still swinging at baseballs.
Sing it.

My steroid use is better than your steroid use
I take more drugs than a touring funk band
Sing it.

At any rate, I'm not a Bonds supporter.  I think what he did is really disappointing.  But it's just lazy to put all or even most of the blame on Bonds.  Baseball's leadership should be catching more of the outrage than Bonds is.  Yeah, Bonds sullied the record book, and it's fine for him to get ripped over it for the rest of his days.  But if hadn't done it, someone else would have. In other words, no matter who breaks the record, Fehr, Selig and a whole lot of other guys that didn't break any records deserve the bulk of the blame.

Should he be in the HOF?  I'm not sure.  Given that there are glorified cheaters already in the HOF and tons of other cheaters from this era that will probably go, it doesn't seem fair to target Bonds just because a) people hate him and b) he was better than all the other steroid users.

I think it'll take a few years before it's clearer how history should look at Bonds, McGwire, Palmeiro and others.

Maine,

I want your honest opinion on this because you're the baseball expert:

If I was the commissioner, I would make some radical changes, unlike Bud Selig who seems to be content sitting on his ass while his Milwaukee team founders in last place every year.  He has said he "will not lift a finger to the record books". 

I would erase the entire recent most home runs in a season records, setting it back at 61 for Roger Maris.  Additionally, I would erase the career home run records of Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, and Sammy Sosa.  The final phase of my sweeping reform would be to put those three, along with Jose Canseco and Rafael Palmeiro, in the same category as Pete Rose.... banned from baseball for life.  Those guys were cheaters and I do NOT want them in the Hall of Fame. 

The thing about wiping the record books is that it makes it seem like MLB is pretending things didn't happen.  I'd rather them say "Here's what happened.  However, here's what we know."  But I don't know if they should do it in any official way or just say nothing and leave the responsibility to the fans and to HOF voters to decide how to view history.  I mean, MLB hasn't done a very good job with responsibility.  So I'm not sure I really want them deciding or offering recommendations on how to view records.  Down with appeals to corrupt authority!

Really what I want to see are resignations from people that knew about and ignored the steroid issue--folks like Selig and Fehr.  That would be so much more pleasing than seeing Bonds be the focus of the blame.

How can you wipe the record books clean when you've got nothing on McGwire or Sosa?  Don't go lumping them into one group just cause Bonds is a flaming Roid-head.

We've got plenty on McGwire and Sosa.

Such as?

Here is the problem - there are no test results stating that Bonds did it.  Certainly nothing to implicate Sosa or Big Mac.  At what point do you start?  When do you stop?  Steroids are nothing new, there are a lot of relief pitchers that starting using them in the 1970's all through recent times.  There was a lot of talk about Eric Gagne (his fastball suddenly had an additional mile to two mile per hour increase) and now his body seems to be breaking down.

The only thing you can do is erase records when caught - say it's August and Bonds has hit 41 home runs so far in 2006.  If he test positive, 2006 records could be erased.  That's all.

While it's safe to say Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, etc did not use steroids - you can't say the same thing for the players in the 70's through current.  If you were to strip Bonds, where do you stop?  Gaylord Perry admitted to doctoring the ball while pitching, a clear violation of MLB rules.  Do you erase his records?

That is way to slippery a slope to start going down.

BTW - the Brewers aren't run by Selig anymore.