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Title: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: jtex316 on March 21, 2006, 12:03:23 am
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2377395

What a piece of crap.  I HOPE he sits out on Wednesday, too, so they can bench him for the whole season.  That would be awesome.


Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: Brian Fein on March 21, 2006, 12:18:11 am
I just read the update for this on Sportsline.  It was the longest player update in the history of Sportsline.

This, just one day after I drafted Soriano as my starting 2B in one of my fantasy leagues.  Boo...


Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: Denver_Bronco on March 21, 2006, 09:10:16 am
I'll play outfield. Give me a call Frank... ;)


Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: bsfins on March 21, 2006, 11:31:09 am
I think  this is funny,The Cubs,wanted Soriano,but they didn't go after him harder,because it was put out there...He wouldn't switch to the outfield...



Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: Brian Fein on March 21, 2006, 11:39:58 am
the guy is a good defensive second baseman, I don't know why everyone wants to move him to OF.  I wouldn't want to move either.  Outfielders just stand there for most of the game.


Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: Phishfan on March 21, 2006, 01:35:19 pm
the guy is a good defensive second baseman, I don't know why everyone wants to move him to OF.  I wouldn't want to move either.  Outfielders just stand there for most of the game.

They want him to switch because they already have an all-star calibur second baseman with a higher batting average last season. Baseball players need to learn a couple positions in my opinion anyway.


Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: Denver_Bronco on March 21, 2006, 01:38:10 pm
They want him to switch because they already have an all-star calibur second baseman with a higher batting average last season. Baseball players need to learn a couple positions in my opinion anyway.
Well then you don't trade for him. Especially when he publicly said he was unwilling to switch positions for the last 2 years now. In this situation I side with Soriano personally.


Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: Brian Fein on March 21, 2006, 01:46:45 pm
Well then you don't trade for him. Especially when he publicly said he was unwilling to switch positions for the last 2 years now. In this situation I side with Soriano personally.
I totally agree.  You have a good 2B, then why you trading for a 2B?  You shoulda had that conversation before you made the deal, now you're gonna suffer.  Its like the Dolphins signing Lavar Arrington and saying "we already have Zach, can you play WR?"

They just wanted his bat, and he has good speed, but either plan to move the guy you have, or make sure the new guy is willing to move before you pull the trigger.

Here's the better question - if Christian Guzman ends up missing significant time, do they let Soriano play SS, or do they go with that bum Royce Clayton?  That seems like a no brainer to me.


Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: Brian Fein on March 21, 2006, 01:52:28 pm
I just read this in an article on MLB.com

During the game, Bowden indicated that Soriano will be given a second chance to play the outfield on Wednesday afternoon against the Cardinals in Jupiter, Fla. If Soriano refuses to play the outfield that day, Bowden said the team most likely will put him on the disqualified list without pay.

Stay tuned, we'll see what happens Wednesday.


Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: jtex316 on March 21, 2006, 02:01:29 pm
I just don't get this.

Craig Biggo played like 48 different positions, and was great at all of them.  Outfield, 2nd Base, Catcher, Bat Boy, Beer Guy.....

Why can't Soriano do it?


Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: Brian Fein on March 21, 2006, 02:19:30 pm
I just don't get this.

Craig Biggo played like 48 different positions, and was great at all of them.  Outfield, 2nd Base, Catcher, Bat Boy, Beer Guy.....

Why can't Soriano do it?
Cuase he's a woman.

I think he's scared of being exposed as a bum.  I suspect he'll quit his whining and be in left field Wednesday.  If he's not, he gets sent to the unemployment line.


Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: Denver_Bronco on March 21, 2006, 02:24:50 pm
Cuase he's a woman.

I think he's scared of being exposed as a bum.  I suspect he'll quit his whining and be in left field Wednesday.  If he's not, he gets sent to the unemployment line.
He should go to the outfield and shank every ball hit his way.


Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: Sunstroke on March 21, 2006, 03:25:04 pm
the guy is a good defensive second baseman, I don't know why everyone wants to move him to OF. I wouldn't want to move either. Outfielders just stand there for most of the game.

I think you might be thinking of Alfonso SomebodyElse... because Alfonso Soriano is arguably one of the worst fielding infielders in baseball. It's why people keep trying to get him to move to the OF...fewer chances to gack. He actually sucks pretty badly with the glove in the outfield as well...

He can hit like a monster though...despite what his road splits from last season may say.  ;)








Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: Denver_Bronco on March 21, 2006, 03:37:03 pm
I think you might be thinking of Alfonso SomebodyElse... because Alfonso Soriano is arguably one of the worst fielding infielders in baseball. It's why people keep trying to get him to move to the OF...fewer chances to gack. He actually sucks pretty badly with the glove in the outfield as well...

He can hit like a monster though...despite what his road splits from last season may say.  ;)







Defensively he is the worst fielding second baseman in the last 50 years of MLB. He averages roughly an error every 7 games and a 91% fielding percentage.


Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: Sunstroke on March 21, 2006, 04:19:26 pm
Defensively he is the worst fielding second baseman in the last 50 years of MLB. He averages roughly an error every 7 games and a 91% fielding percentage. 

One of the few things that you and I agree completely on...  ;)




Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: Brian Fein on March 21, 2006, 05:11:01 pm
I have never looked for defensive stats on him.  I only know his fantasy baseball value, which, like football, doesn't concern his defense.  I never realized he sucked that bad.  I thought I heard his name and "gold glove" in the same sentence a few times...?

I guess not.


Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: MaineDolFan on March 21, 2006, 05:57:14 pm
the guy is a good defensive second baseman, I don't know why everyone wants to move him to OF. I wouldn't want to move either. Outfielders just stand there for most of the game.

Um, are we watching the same guy?  He's TERRIBLE with the glove.  AWFUL.  If memory serves me right...

2001 - 19 errors
2002 - 23 errors
2003 - 19 errors
2004 - 23 errors
2005 - 21 errors

He's a COMPLETE liability at second base.  Lifetime fielding percentage of .970 for a second basemen?  If he wasn't a 30/100 guy he'd be playing in the Mexican League.


Title: Re: Alfonso Soriano REFUSES to play a game
Post by: Pats2006 on March 21, 2006, 07:24:38 pm
I dont blame him!