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Title: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: jtex316 on March 30, 2006, 07:35:12 pm
This sherade (sp) has gone on for far too long now.

Brett Favre should be immediately released by the Packers.  I mean out right dropped.  He is single-handidly ruining and holding up the future of the franchise in total limbo, so that he can 'make a decision' about whether or not he wants to play next year.

The way this over-the-hill bum has been the last 3 years, he is VERY lucky that he's made it this far, and hasn't been either benched or traded.

The Packers need to look ahead.  They can't have their QB sitting around not knowing if he wants to play anymore.  They have a young QB, new head coach, and they need to get going immediately.

Also, how long does it take to make a decision or not?  I mean, how long do you really need to decide if you want to play football or not?  It's Yes, or No.  If you need this much time, you probably shouldn't play (And I don't think you should play, you interception-throwing piece of crap).


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on March 30, 2006, 07:37:04 pm
Well, regardless of which decision he makes, it's not going to affect their draft plans at all.  They already have a young QB waiting in the wings and don't need to pick up another one. 


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: jtex316 on March 30, 2006, 07:39:30 pm
Sure it does.

If he comes back, then he's the starter.  If he doesn't and retires, they need to get a back-up QB to back-up Aaron Rodgers.  Plus both QB's are different, so adjustments to the offense need to be made accordingly.

Personally, Favre hasn't done SQUAT but throw picks the last 3 years in the NFL.  I can't believe the Packers won't just call him and say "Sorry Brett, we need to move forward.  You're off the team".

So what if he's a future hall of famer?  What has he done lately?


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: Spider-Dan on March 30, 2006, 08:04:40 pm
"charade"


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: gocowboys31 on March 30, 2006, 08:09:06 pm
I agree with your sentiments jtex. I'm tired of the favre soap opera. The organization needs to proceed without him. He's holding the packers hostage.The packers have seemingly done everything their going to do in free agency.Javon walker wants nothing to do with the packers, and that's favre's main target. They just lost mike flanagan to the texans, so that makes 3 starters favre's lost off that offensive line in 2 years.

The term gunslinger is used to describe favre, that just another term for recklessness. Please FAVRE bow out gracefully, and spare the football public the drama.


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 30, 2006, 08:40:51 pm
The Packers are giving him until Saturday to come up with an answer. I think Brett then said he will hold a press conference on Sunday to announce his decision.


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on March 30, 2006, 08:43:51 pm
The Packers are giving him until Saturday to come up with an answer. I think Brett then said he will hold a press conference on Sunday to announce his decision.

If he's gonna hold a press conference, then you know he's gonna retire. 


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: Denver_Bronco on March 31, 2006, 07:22:23 am
If he's gonna hold a press conference, then you know he's gonna retire. 
Not necessarilty. Bert is an attention whore and he needs as many people to hang on his every sentence as possible.


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: Dave Gray on March 31, 2006, 10:03:30 am
The word is that Brett will stay.  Analysts are saying that if he was going to retire, he'd have done it already.  ...that hanging around in limbo would only hurt the Packers if he wasn't planning on staying.

But, JTex is right.  What is this going to accomplish.  They need to start over.  They need to see if Rogers is the real deal.  Favre is only hurting the Pack by staying on that team, and it's going to be an embarrasing end to a good career if he doesn't go now.


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: Phishfan on March 31, 2006, 10:08:34 am
How is this really going to hurt the Packers? How are they in limbo? The QB free agent backup market is still wide open. They really had no desire for Daunte or Drew so they haven't missed much. If you don't think the front office has not been developing a plan for a) if he stays and b) if he retires I would say you have little faith in their organization.


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: Dave Gray on March 31, 2006, 10:36:42 am
How is this really going to hurt the Packers?

They might have a plan for both scenerios, but they can't put the wheels in motion to execute that plan until they know where Favre stands.  And time hurts -- there are less options as time goes by.  They might want to get a QB in the draft, but if Favre hangs around, and doesn't make a decision by draft day, what do they do?  What if they need a backup, like Harrington, and he's shopping for teams right now.  Also, they've already missed the 2nd tier backup style QBs, like Ramsey.


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on March 31, 2006, 10:38:33 am
They might have a plan for both scenerios, but they can't put the wheels in motion to execute that plan until they know where Favre stands.  And time hurts -- there are less options as time goes by.  They might want to get a QB in the draft, but if Favre hangs around, and doesn't make a decision by draft day, what do they do?  What if they need a backup, like Harrington, and he's shopping for teams right now.  Also, they've already missed the 2nd tier backup style QBs, like Ramsey.

They've got Aaron Rodgers waiting in the wings, so they don't need to go after a QB in the draft.  Favre hanging around might cause some bad publicity, but it definitely won't alter their draft plans.  They need defensive help. 


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: Dave Gray on March 31, 2006, 10:57:22 am
They've got Aaron Rodgers waiting in the wings, so they don't need to go after a QB in the draft.

They will need a backup QB if Favre leaves.  They could try to hit on one with a late round pick -- or they may want to trade a pick for a viable veteran elsewhere.


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: jtex316 on March 31, 2006, 11:12:49 am
How awesome would it be if Favre announced that he was coming back...and then he was made the 2nd string QB and Rodgers the starter??


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: Dave Gray on March 31, 2006, 11:43:42 am
How awesome would it be if Favre announced that he was coming back...and then he was made the 2nd string QB and Rodgers the starter??

I'd like that.  It'd probably help Rodgers a lot.  ...Favre would never go for it, though.


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: jtex316 on March 31, 2006, 12:07:15 pm
I'd like that.  It'd probably help Rodgers a lot.  ...Favre would never go for it, though.

Well then tough shit for Brett Favre.  Since when do players control what happens on the team?  The Packers need to be strong.  People will hate ownership for a while, but it will help out that sorry ass franchise more then they know.


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: Phishfan on March 31, 2006, 12:20:01 pm
They will need a backup QB if Favre leaves.  They could try to hit on one with a late round pick -- or they may want to trade a pick for a viable veteran elsewhere.

No team with any common sense really wants to go into a season with an unproven starter and a rookie back-up.

By my count Anthony Wright, Vinny Testaverde, & Jeff Blake are available in free agency. Not to mention the possibilities of a trade. None of these guys are going to receive very high interest, but they are exactly what Green Bay needs. They put their eggs in Rodger's basket, so it's time for them to see what he can do. They should not get a backup like Harrington who has intentions of starting. This is going to cause unnecessary problems with Rodgers development if you ask me. He rode the pine and once Favre is gone the job should be his. That's just my opinion.


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: jtex316 on March 31, 2006, 01:26:38 pm
Exactly.  Brett Favre should wear a headset and train Rodgers for 1 year on how to throw wild interceptions in the name of "being aggresive".


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: TEKGOD on March 31, 2006, 01:54:03 pm
I agree with jtex, but Green Bay will never let go of Favre he is bigger than Lombardi & Bart Starr up there in Wisconsin. If I am Ted Thompson I tell Mick Mcarthy to give 1st team snaps to Rodgers. Who wants a QB who is going to go into the season half-ass anyway? Favre should have had an answer months ago.


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: TEKGOD on March 31, 2006, 01:55:57 pm
I agree with jtex, but Green Bay will never let go of Favre he is bigger than Lombardi & Bart Starr up there in Wisconsin. Why who the hell knows he is a decent but overrated QB with an itchy trigger finger if you ask me. If I am Ted Thompson I tell Mick Mcarthy to give 1st team snaps to Rodgers. Who wants a QB who is going to go into the season half-ass anyway? Favre should have had an answer months ago.


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: fyo on March 31, 2006, 03:41:14 pm
The way this over-the-hill bum has been the last 3 years, he is VERY lucky that he's made it this far, and hasn't been either benched or traded.

Yeah, 'cause quarterbacks with passer rating above 90 clearly suck. Favre had 90.4 three years ago and 92.4 two years ago. He's had ONE bad year and that was last year. I'm not sure if that would be enough for a "veteran" quarterback to be outright fired, but he would probably have to fight for his job in a way Favre won't, if he does decide to come back.

You can either be a Favre-appologist and argue that he lost the two best players on his oline, followed by every receiver worth throwing the ball to and finally every player capable of running the ball - and that this explains Favre's performance last season.

Or you can be a Favre-hater and say that he's an over-the-hill bum.

But to claim that he's been bad the past 3 years just makes you sound like a moron.

Not be able to spell to charade, knowing it, and even then not bothering to spend 5 seconds looking it up doesn't help either.


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: Dave Gray on March 31, 2006, 03:59:20 pm
Even in Favre's big games -- the Monday night game after his Dad died -- his performance didn't seem so great to me.  It looked like he was just heaving the ball up there, and his receivers were doing a fantastic job of fighting to get the ball.  Last year, those heaves were interceptions.

I think Favre is done -- even if he's capable of not embarrasing himself, they have a young QB who needs to be evaluated.


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: jtex316 on March 31, 2006, 04:21:28 pm
Hey FYO, i have some FYI.

A post about Brett Favre doesn't deserve for me to spend time looking up how to spell the only word I've not been able to spell on TDMMC.  When someone puts a (sp) after a word, that means that the spelling is either wrong, or could be wrong.  Yet you and I think Brian Fein jumped all over that, as if you never spelled a word wrong, or didn't know how to spell something wrong.

Second, QB rating numbers don't mean jack in this situation.  You can't just throw out numbers and expect me to say "Oh OK, maybe he wasn't that bad".  For the last three years, and including this year, Favre has played like shit, and at the most important times.  Anytime a game came down to the wire, and the ball was in Favre's hands to win the game..he'd throw a wild interception, or simply not connect with any receiver and turn the ball over on downs.  How do I know this?  The national media loves Brett Favre, so damn near every game is televised.  This season, he not only threw lob-interceptions up for grabs at the end of games - he threw them in the middle of the games, and at the beginning of games.

Next, for the last 3 seasons, he's toyed with this whole "Should I retire" SHARADE (sp) every off-season, only to come back for "one more year" everytime.  The Packers have suffered drastically with this.  You can't rebuild an organization if your veteran QB keeps coming back to stink up the place every season.

Lastly, he's left the Packers in total Limbo this year, and once again it's going to cost him.  If that whore does come back for his 4th "last season", it will not only F the Packers this season, but it will also cost them the following season..

So, once again, I'll say that Brett Favre should be released of his contract, or asked to be the 2nd string QB in favor of Rogers.  If he doesn't like it - DONE.  What good is it going to do for the Packers 5 years from now when they're still at the bottom of the NFC, because they spent 3 seasons giving Favre "respect" and "allowing him as much time as he needs to make a decision"?  This is a business, and business is...well, business.  You gotta do what you gotta do. 

Please, PLEASE Green Bay, make the right move for your future and get rid of this whore, who's nonsense even interrupted the Super Bowl (Yes, that means he's been contemplating "returning" for over 3 months now).


Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on April 01, 2006, 09:13:48 pm
Now Brett Favre has been quoted as saying that if he chooses to play next season, it will be his last and he will only play if Green Bay can put together a winning team.  IMO, if the Packers want to put together a winning team, their first step would be to dump his arrogant ass.


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Title: Re: The Packers need to release Brett Favre...now.
Post by: cyan on April 02, 2006, 05:04:17 pm
does anyone here frequent any Packer's boards similar to this one? i'd be interested to see if the Packers fans have the same tolerance for this type of selfishness that the organization (and apparently the media) have for it. I would probably be lumped into the group of Favre-fans if i had to be, and have always liked the guy, but his attitude towards the team has gotten pretty ridiculous over the last 12 months, and he's starting to sould like TO did a few years ago...the man being more important than the team that made him.