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Title: Barry Bonds did it Post by: raptorsfan29 on May 28, 2006, 07:06:21 pm number 715 to pass ruth on the all time homerun leader. Thoughts, comments?
Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on May 28, 2006, 07:19:35 pm Waive your syringes in the air!!!!!
Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: crazy_scar_man on May 28, 2006, 07:36:04 pm You know, despite the rumors and apparent obvious appearance change, Bonds hasn't been convicted of anything. I think it's important to stick with "innocent until proven guilty." Especially when there is a media frenzy around the subject.
That said, I'm almost glad that alot of people think some of the great records have been devalued. Maybe winning will become more important, instead of stats. Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: EDGECRUSHER on May 28, 2006, 07:48:17 pm Bonds actually admitted that he unknowingly took steroids. It just hasn';t been played up by the media as much because it's about the 19th biggest piece of evidence against him.
I didn't want to see him pass Ruth because I don't want ANYONE thinking he was better than Ruth, not even someone who watched 3 games in their entire life who would base on who is the best based on career stats. Shit, I don't think Bonds is even better than Ty Cobb or Ted Williams who is OBSCENELY underrated and Bonds didn't lose a few years of his playing career to go fight Nazis. Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: jtex316 on May 28, 2006, 10:01:44 pm Dude...I'm willing to bet that that Fat Ass Babe Ruth probably was a fall down drunk like Mickey Mantle back in the 20's.
Yes, steroids is worse, but: A. Bonds hasn't been charged or convicted with anything B. Babe Ruth was most likely NOT this Saint that everyone (Yankee Fans) make him out to be. So, I actually hope he passes AARON next season. Everyone hates him - yet everyone watches when they show his at-bats during SportsCenter. Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: Sunstroke on May 28, 2006, 10:06:32 pm I only hope that, once conclusive proof of Barry's 'roid use is established, that baseball does the right thing and strikes Bonds' HR marks from all record books. Same with any other slugger who can be proven to have used steroids to enhance his performance. It's time to clean things up, folks... It isn't going to be easy and it isn't going to be fun, but once it's done, baseball will be a helluva lot better off for it. Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: crazy_scar_man on May 28, 2006, 10:11:32 pm I only hope that, once conclusive proof of Barry's 'roid use is established, that baseball does the right thing and strikes Bonds' HR marks from all record books. What about starting new record books? Make a major change in the game... enough so people will refer to stuff as 'after xyz' or 'after 2007'. Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: Sunstroke on May 28, 2006, 10:14:35 pm Nah...I'd prefer they just take the roid-heads out of it once they're convicted. A single record book is needed for the game's continuity. Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: EDGECRUSHER on May 28, 2006, 11:10:31 pm Dude...I'm willing to bet that that Fat Ass Babe Ruth probably was a fall down drunk like Mickey Mantle back in the 20's. Yes, steroids is worse, but: A. Bonds hasn't been charged or convicted with anything B. Babe Ruth was most likely NOT this Saint that everyone (Yankee Fans) make him out to be. So, I actually hope he passes AARON next season. Everyone hates him - yet everyone watches when they show his at-bats during SportsCenter. Who makes Ruth out to be a saint? Aside from his work with children(which to be fair, was a lot because he grew up in an orphanage too so he related), you just hear about what a drunk he was off the field. Good teammates to some, but I am pretty sure he was a prick to Gehrig. Actually, as far as the ratings thing goes, the ratings go down on ESPN shows when they cut in with Barry's at bats. The fans have long stopped caring, even though the emdia has shoved it down our throats. OJ was never convicted either, that doesn't mean you can't take an intelligent look at the evidence and make up your own mind. MLB can't do anything without a conviction and I agree with that policy, but there is so much evidence against Barry you would have to be related to him to think he was innocent. Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: Pats2006 on May 28, 2006, 11:40:20 pm "B. Babe Ruth was most likely NOT this Saint that everyone (Yankee Fans) make him out to be".
Beer and Steroids are a big diffrence. In my eyes the Babe is still one of the best hitters in baseball. Bonds is a fu*king sh*t bag. I hope he breaks his leg next game. Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: DolFan619 on May 29, 2006, 12:13:24 am   I don't care.  Plain and simple, I just don't care.  Yes, he just passed one of baseball's all-time greats.  Yes, he broke a record that is one of the most hallowed records in Major League Baseball.  Fact of the matter is, I just don't care.  Call me UnAmerican, call me a bad sports fan, call me what you will, I just don't give a damn.  I can't cheer for a man who used steroids and growth hormone to get to where he is.
 I am sick and fucking tired of the media; mainly ESPN, shoving this crap down mine and everybody else's throat!  I do not watch Bonds on Bonds, everytime ESPN goes to show one of Barry's "at bats" I flip the channel, everytime there's highlights on SportsCenter of Barry, I flip the channel.  I don't care, I don't care because this just sickens me.  I just don't understand the fascination with this scumbag chasing a record that in the end will ultimately be taken away from him.  You know, it's funny.  Some people have the nerve to say, "Well Barry never tested positive on a test, so maybe he really didn't use steroids."  Yeah, and O.J. Simpson never really murdered Ron Goldman and his wife Nicole.  Yeah, and Michael Jackson never really molested those kids either.  Come on people, crawl out from under that rock, pull your head out of the sand, pull your head from your ass, WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!  One way or another Bonds will be exposed for the fraud that he is.   You know, in a time not so long ago I remember getting completely caught up in the "Great Homerun Chase of 98."  It was great to be a baseball fan during that time, Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa.  Who was going get there first, the mutual respect between the two men, the drama and anticipation when the games came on, it was such great theater!  Then, reality finally hit me and all of America.  In those infamous Steroid Hearings on Capitol Hill, our great homerun heroes were revealed  for who they truly were....  Frauds.  Although, McGwire pleaded the fifth, and Sosa forgot to speak English on that day, we knew that one of sports greatest moments was one great big lie. Just like Bonds' "so-called" newfound glory as baseball's premiere homerun hitter. It is one great big lie! This is one lie I'm not getting caught up in.  I'm done.  I don't care about Bonds, I don't care about the Bonds coverage.  To Bonds, and to the media that continues to make something out of nothing.  I got two words for ya...  SUCK IT!!!  Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: Brian Fein on May 29, 2006, 12:19:10 am We now return you to your regularly scheduled baseball season.
Bonds now has what, 7 home runs on the season? A whopping 7? There are at least 67 players in the league who have more than 7 home runs right now, including Curtis Granderson, Marcus Thames, Xavier Nady, Casey Blake, and Ty Wigginton. Who cares about Bonds right now? There are so many other people playing better baseball right now than a guy hitting .243 with 7 HR's. ::) Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: Fau Teixeira on May 29, 2006, 01:26:58 am this whole barry bonds .. steroids in baseball issue doesn't really bother me .. especially since the MLB didn't have a steroid policy when their players did steroids .. so now they're supposed to what .. retroactively apply the new rules to old infractions .. i'm sorry but it doesn't work that way .. bonds took steroids .. i'm not saying he didn't .. what i'm saying is.. so what?
Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: raptorsfan29 on May 29, 2006, 03:06:00 pm Who cares about Bonds right now? There are so many other people playing better baseball right now than a guy hitting .243 with 7 HR's. ::) i do but apparently i'm not wanted anymore. thanks who cares if the guys is hitting 7 hr with a .243 BA. He did something only one other player in ML history did, pass ruth. Big accomplishment regardless of what people may think Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on May 29, 2006, 07:10:30 pm this whole barry bonds .. steroids in baseball issue doesn't really bother me .. especially since the MLB didn't have a steroid policy when their players did steroids .. so now they're supposed to what .. retroactively apply the new rules to old infractions .. i'm sorry but it doesn't work that way .. bonds took steroids .. i'm not saying he didn't .. what i'm saying is.. so what? They did have a steroid policy. They just never TESTED for steroids. The policy has always been a blanket one covering all illegal drugs. Steroids are illegal. Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: ADeadSmitty on May 29, 2006, 09:36:09 pm They did have a steroid policy. They just never TESTED for steroids. The policy has always been a blanket one covering all illegal drugs. Steroids are illegal. Right. Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: Dave Gray on May 30, 2006, 03:35:54 am This is baseball's problem....not Bonds'. They knew that steroids were a problem, but they ignored it because it was helping their ratings and popularity. Baseball had nobody to blame but themselves. It's not like Barry is one of the few...he's one of the many. It just so happens that he's the best player to come out of the steroid era. Is baseball supposed to just pretend that the last 15 years didn't happen?
By the way, a drug policy that you don't test for isn't a policy. Were the players just supposed to be on the honors system? C'mon. So, I'm pulling for Barry to pass Hank Aaron, too. ...just to stick it to every jerk that blames him for the way that baseball is, when it's the other way around. Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on May 30, 2006, 07:48:27 am Maine, can you pull up baseball's drug policy again?
Title: Re: Barry Bonds did it Post by: Phishfan on May 30, 2006, 02:09:13 pm I want to add two things.
#1 Can we quit saying he broke a record? The record is Hank Aaron's. He became 2 on the list, that is not breaking a record. #2 The guy who caught the ball was waiting for a beer. How lucky is that? |