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Title: MLB - Schilling vs Santana
Post by: Sunstroke on June 13, 2006, 08:54:46 pm
Since I gave the youth movement their due in the Kazmir-Verlander thread, I figured I'd start a thread about a game I am watching in progress...Boston at Minnesota. Curt Schilling mano y mano with Johan Santana in what would have to be considered a heavyweight title fight of the mound variety.

Stats so far this season...

Curt "Bloody Sock" Schilling: 9-2, 3.81 era, 77 K's to only 9 BB's in 87 innings

Johan "Illegal Changeup" Santana: 6-4, 3.16 era, 91 K's to only 16 BB's in 88 innings

May I direct your attention to those K/BB rates... That equals sick control and multiple strikeout pitches for both veteran hurlers. Elite aces...both of them. Period.

Going into the bottom of the third inning right now... scoreless (of course). Schilling has allowed 2 hits and one walk with 2 K's through 2 innings and Santana has allowed 2 hits with a monstrous 7 K's through 3 innings (only 42 pitches too...keeping the pitch count low)

Calling for chinese delivery now...not missing a pitch of this one.  ;D



(modified to add: that sick strikeout rate detailed above is the exact reason that neither of my fantasy squad's Red Sox players are active tonight. My mama raised no fantasy fools...)



Title: Re: MLB - Schilling vs Santana
Post by: raptorsfan29 on June 13, 2006, 09:23:30 pm
11K'S right now for santana


Title: Re: MLB - Schilling vs Santana
Post by: raptorsfan29 on June 13, 2006, 11:44:11 pm
Walk off Grand slam for the Twins. nice ending to one of the better pitching duels of the year


Title: Re: MLB - Schilling vs Santana
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on June 14, 2006, 12:30:08 am
Julian Tavarez is terrible. NY had to choose between Farnsworth or Tavarez. Looks like they would've lost either way. You can't put headcases in pressure markets like Boston or NY.


Title: Re: MLB - Schilling vs Santana
Post by: Brian Fein on June 14, 2006, 12:53:44 am
son of a bitch.

I have Santana AND Schilling in one of my fantasy leagues, and now neither of them gets the win.

Bastards.  Wins are mega-super-important in that league, too... :(


Title: Re: MLB - Schilling vs Santana
Post by: Brian Fein on June 14, 2006, 12:56:22 am
Tonight's lines:

J. Santana SP   -  8 INN, 5 HA, 13 K, ER = 20 fantasy points
C. Schilling RP     -  8 INN, 6 HA, BBI, 5 K, ER = 11 fantasy points

In comparison:
J. Garland SP   -  5.1 INN, 5 HA, BBI, 2 ER, W = 12.33 fantasy points

See how important wins are?


Title: Re: MLB - Schilling vs Santana
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on June 14, 2006, 01:02:14 am
Sox will need Schilling to continue pitching at this level until Beckett gets his stuff back or they find a reliable 5th starter from the Minors. He still gives up his share of homers, but when you walk no one that's okay.


Title: Re: MLB - Schilling vs Santana
Post by: Sunstroke on June 14, 2006, 01:45:22 am
Tonight's lines:

J. Santana SP   - 8 INN, 5 HA, 13 K, ER = 20 fantasy points
C. Schilling RP    - 8 INN, 6 HA, BBI, 5 K, ER = 11 fantasy points

In comparison:
J. Garland SP   - 5.1 INN, 5 HA, BBI, 2 ER, W = 12.33 fantasy points

See how important wins are?

That is a different kind of scoring set...

I thought I was in great shape, pitching-wise against raptors in the TDMMC FLB tonight. My three SP's (Santana, Josh Johnson and Jered Weaver) and two closers (Nathan and K-Rod) combined for a sparkling stat line of: 23 innings, 2 earned runs, 18 hits, 4 walks, 27 K's, 2 wins and a save.

Then I noticed that, aside from K's and saves, raptor's SP duo of Roy Halladay and Enrique Gonzalez combined for a near-perfect 16 innings, 1 earned run, 7 hits, 3 walks, 7 K's, 2 wins and a damned complete game by Halladay.

So much for pounding him in the pitching cats tonight...




Title: Re: MLB - Schilling vs Santana
Post by: MaineDolFan on June 14, 2006, 09:25:32 am
Boston's lack of a lefty cost them in this game - literally don't have one.  I don't mind going Timlin, Papelbon...but the 12th should have been a lefty.  Twins bats in the 11th / 12th really struggle against a southpaw.  Boston needs to shore up that bullpen.


Title: Re: MLB - Schilling vs Santana
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on June 14, 2006, 03:29:54 pm
Lefties definitely help, but a good righty can get left handed hitters out too. The problem is Julian Tavarez sucks. Just another reliever who comes to the AL East(mainly Boston & NY)and immediately sucks ass.

Using Papelbon for 2 innings was smart, if the guy only throws like 11 pitches in one inning he should be used for a second.


Title: Re: MLB - Schilling vs Santana
Post by: MaineDolFan on June 14, 2006, 05:15:17 pm
When you have a steady stream of right handed pitchers, and no lefty in the bullpen, it's a real liability.  Tavarez isn't a terrible pitcher, but he doesn't have better stuff than Timlin or anyone else in the pen like Riske.  When you are facing hitters that really struggle against lefties (someone like Trot Nixon)...but you don't have that lefty to go to...

That's tough.


Title: Re: MLB - Schilling vs Santana
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on June 14, 2006, 05:53:50 pm
Why did Boston not re-sign Mike Myers? His ERA is under 1 with NY and I don't think they really cut him a balnk check either. His 2006 salary is $1.15 Million.

Oh well, you can have Villone or Matt Smith if you like. Lord knows Torre doesn't want to use them despite their numbers.